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Old November 27th 08, 02:23 AM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000
Bozena
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The Gateway 17" CRT monitor on my 1994 P5-90 desktop running Win95a
is getting a little flaky. The desktop occasionally wiggles and shakes right and
left. The video card is an STB Powergraph 64 Video with STB Win 95.
Should there be any problem replacing it with an Acer 19" wide panel LCD
monitor with a standard VGA connector?

Thanks!
Scott


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Old November 27th 08, 04:05 AM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000
Postman delivers
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On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 19:23:17 -0600, Bozena wrote:

video card is an STB Powergraph 64 Video


Does this Video card have the capabilities of powering a 17 or 19 inch
wide screen monitor - Will it produce the resolution of 1440x900 or
1680x1050 would be my question...

JR the postman
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Old November 27th 08, 05:42 AM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000
Ben Myers[_2_]
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Postman Delivers wrote:
On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 19:23:17 -0600, Bozena wrote:

video card is an STB Powergraph 64 Video


Does this Video card have the capabilities of powering a 17 or 19 inch
wide screen monitor - Will it produce the resolution of 1440x900 or
1680x1050 would be my question...

JR the postman


The STB Powergraph 64 is a very old PCI card with (IIRC) an S3 graphics
chip. S3 stopped making drivers for their chips long ago, even before
Windows XP. The odds of the card handling any sort of wide resolution
are zero. No doubt in my mind. Any PCI card that would install
properly in an ancient Gateway system would also be pretty unlikely to
support one of the resolutions OR (even more likely) not even have
Windows 9x drivers.

As nice as a new wide screen monitor may seem, I recommend that the OP
shop for a 17" LCD (maybe even a 15"?) with the old-time 4:3 aspect
ratio and an operating resolution of either 1024x768 or 1280x1024. Used
17" LCD screens in good condition sell for under $100, maybe half that
if used. The local craigslist is often a good source.

Or it's time to replace both failing monitor and trusty Gateway that has
served well for 13 or 14 years... Ben Myers
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Old November 27th 08, 10:40 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000
Wettlesheim
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On Nov 26, 8:23*pm, "Bozena" wrote:
The Gateway 17" CRT monitor on my 1994 P5-90 desktop running Win95a
is getting a little flaky. *The desktop occasionally wiggles and shakes right and
left. The video card is an STB Powergraph 64 Video with STB Win 95.
Should there be any problem replacing it with an Acer 19" wide panel LCD
monitor with a standard VGA connector?

Thanks!
Scott


Both "the Postman Delivers and Ben Myers are very knowledgeable
individuals and I've learned much from their posts. Another option
would be to search your local Craigslist to see if you could get a
19'' or 17" CRT monitor cheap or free and ask people you know if they
have one collecting dust somewhere. I've picked numerous 17' CRT
monitors which I've donated to a nonprofit group and have a couple of
gathering dust that I haven't donated yet. You may want to consider
updating your video card, both www.geeks.com and www.pacificgeek.com
handle pci video cards.

Even your 1994 Gateway has served you well you want to retire it
soon. I've seen PCs that have a Pentium 3 866mHz processor and
monitor on Craigslist for $70. My youngest son is still using our 1998
Gateway G-400, it has been upgraded many times and I'm just to cheap
to replace it. It still works fine for what he is using it for.

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Old November 28th 08, 12:39 AM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000
Scott
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Postman Delivers wrote:

On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 19:23:17 -0600, Bozena wrote:

video card is an STB Powergraph 64 Video


Does this Video card have the capabilities of powering a 17 or 19 inch
wide screen monitor - Will it produce the resolution of 1440x900 or
1680x1050 would be my question...

JR the postman



JR,

Wow, I checked, and I can adjust the resolution up to 1600 x 1200 with this
older video card!

Scott
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Old November 28th 08, 12:45 AM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000
Scott
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Wettlesheim wrote:

On Nov 26, 8:23 pm, "Bozena" wrote:
The Gateway 17" CRT monitor on my 1994 P5-90 desktop running Win95a
is getting a little flaky. The desktop occasionally wiggles and shakes right and
left. The video card is an STB Powergraph 64 Video with STB Win 95.
Should there be any problem replacing it with an Acer 19" wide panel LCD
monitor with a standard VGA connector?

Thanks!
Scott


Both "the Postman Delivers and Ben Myers are very knowledgeable
individuals and I've learned much from their posts. Another option
would be to search your local Craigslist to see if you could get a
19'' or 17" CRT monitor cheap or free and ask people you know if they
have one collecting dust somewhere. I've picked numerous 17' CRT
monitors which I've donated to a nonprofit group and have a couple of
gathering dust that I haven't donated yet. You may want to consider
updating your video card, both www.geeks.com and www.pacificgeek.com
handle pci video cards.

Even your 1994 Gateway has served you well you want to retire it
soon. I've seen PCs that have a Pentium 3 866mHz processor and
monitor on Craigslist for $70. My youngest son is still using our 1998
Gateway G-400, it has been upgraded many times and I'm just to cheap
to replace it. It still works fine for what he is using it for.



Wettlesheim,

Well, I do have another 17" CRT on a little used computer, which I could substitute.
And, I have a 15" rectangular LCD. I also have several Gateway E-3200 corporate
desktops that I got from eBay for under $50 ea, and I'm using those elsewhere in
the house (running Win 98). My reason for keeping the Win95 and Win98 machines is
that they have no problem printing from a 1980's DOS program that I use for
invoices/inventory on my home-based health and wellness business. If you know of a
way I could print invoices from a DOS program using Win XP, I'd love to upgrade

Fortunately, I have a Win XP Pro desktop with an aging (6-year old) 19" LCD Gateway
monitor, which should handle my new Acer 19" wide panel LCD I bought with no problem.

I bought the Acer 19" LCD for $99.00 (with free shipping). What's your opinion about
this monitor...as far as image and quality?

Thanks again!
Scott
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Old November 28th 08, 12:47 AM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000
Scott
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Default Monitor Question



Ben Myers wrote:

Postman Delivers wrote:
On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 19:23:17 -0600, Bozena wrote:

video card is an STB Powergraph 64 Video


Does this Video card have the capabilities of powering a 17 or 19 inch
wide screen monitor - Will it produce the resolution of 1440x900 or
1680x1050 would be my question...

JR the postman


The STB Powergraph 64 is a very old PCI card with (IIRC) an S3 graphics
chip. S3 stopped making drivers for their chips long ago, even before
Windows XP. The odds of the card handling any sort of wide resolution
are zero. No doubt in my mind. Any PCI card that would install
properly in an ancient Gateway system would also be pretty unlikely to
support one of the resolutions OR (even more likely) not even have
Windows 9x drivers.

As nice as a new wide screen monitor may seem, I recommend that the OP
shop for a 17" LCD (maybe even a 15"?) with the old-time 4:3 aspect
ratio and an operating resolution of either 1024x768 or 1280x1024. Used
17" LCD screens in good condition sell for under $100, maybe half that
if used. The local craigslist is often a good source.

Or it's time to replace both failing monitor and trusty Gateway that has
served well for 13 or 14 years... Ben Myers


Ben,

Yes, I'm sure when this video card was made (mid 1990's), there were no
wide screen LCD monitors in production

Scott
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Old November 28th 08, 05:57 AM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000
Ben Myers[_2_]
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Scott wrote:

Wettlesheim wrote:
On Nov 26, 8:23 pm, "Bozena" wrote:
The Gateway 17" CRT monitor on my 1994 P5-90 desktop running Win95a
is getting a little flaky. The desktop occasionally wiggles and shakes right and
left. The video card is an STB Powergraph 64 Video with STB Win 95.
Should there be any problem replacing it with an Acer 19" wide panel LCD
monitor with a standard VGA connector?

Thanks!
Scott

Both "the Postman Delivers and Ben Myers are very knowledgeable
individuals and I've learned much from their posts. Another option
would be to search your local Craigslist to see if you could get a
19'' or 17" CRT monitor cheap or free and ask people you know if they
have one collecting dust somewhere. I've picked numerous 17' CRT
monitors which I've donated to a nonprofit group and have a couple of
gathering dust that I haven't donated yet. You may want to consider
updating your video card, both www.geeks.com and www.pacificgeek.com
handle pci video cards.

Even your 1994 Gateway has served you well you want to retire it
soon. I've seen PCs that have a Pentium 3 866mHz processor and
monitor on Craigslist for $70. My youngest son is still using our 1998
Gateway G-400, it has been upgraded many times and I'm just to cheap
to replace it. It still works fine for what he is using it for.



Wettlesheim,

Well, I do have another 17" CRT on a little used computer, which I could substitute.
And, I have a 15" rectangular LCD. I also have several Gateway E-3200 corporate
desktops that I got from eBay for under $50 ea, and I'm using those elsewhere in
the house (running Win 98). My reason for keeping the Win95 and Win98 machines is
that they have no problem printing from a 1980's DOS program that I use for
invoices/inventory on my home-based health and wellness business. If you know of a
way I could print invoices from a DOS program using Win XP, I'd love to upgrade

Fortunately, I have a Win XP Pro desktop with an aging (6-year old) 19" LCD Gateway
monitor, which should handle my new Acer 19" wide panel LCD I bought with no problem.

I bought the Acer 19" LCD for $99.00 (with free shipping). What's your opinion about
this monitor...as far as image and quality?

Thanks again!
Scott


Scott,

Acer is not bad as far as monitor quality goes. Not absolutely
top-drawer, but still pretty good.

As for printing from a DOS-based program under XP, I suggest giving it a
trial, at minimum. I had a CHEAP client (company making lots of money,
and unwilling to spend of computers) to whom I sold a system with the
LAST motherboard chipset for which Windows 98 (hence also 95) support
exists. I delivered a 512MB (max for 98) Pentium 4 Dell system all set
up with a legit copy of Windows 98 and perfectly capable of running
the old old old custom DOS package used to run their business. They did
not want to spend money for my time to figure out how to get them out of
their own mess, so I no longer do business with them.

Don't get yourself into a bind long term running really old hardware to
support a really old operating system. XP can run DOS commands and
programs out of the CMD box, and there are some customizations you can
do to make the CMD box work OK. You can also use NET USE commands to
associate any printer anywhere on your network with the DOS-ish
environment. But you will have to invest time to research what needs to
be done and some more time for trial and error... Ben Myers
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Old November 28th 08, 08:23 AM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000
William R. Walsh
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Hi!

I bought the Acer 19" LCD for $99.00 (with free shipping). What's your
opinion about this monitor...as far as image and quality?


I have a couple of late model Acer flat panels, the newest being a sixteen
(!!!) inch wide screen. (It's very strange to look at, but it fits the
application I had in mind.)

http://greyghost.mooo.com/evod500sff.jpg (619x747, 93KB)

I've been pleased with all of them, although one of the seventeen inchers
seems to have a very slightly uneven backlight when cold. It goes away when
warmed up and has been in use for a year now, so I suspect it's just
"manufacturing variance". None of them have had any obvious bad pixels that
I could see.

I'm not sure your S3 video will run a widescreen monitor at the proper
resolution, but it's worth a try. S3 had some pretty good products "back in
the day" and one never knows, especially if yours "listens" to the
information almost all modern monitors provide about themselves. The
computer pictured above has a 2001-era nVidia AGP card in it (using the XP
built-in drivers) and seems to have no problem driving the Acer widescreen
at the correct resolution.

William


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Old November 28th 08, 05:54 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000
Kevin Childers
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"Wettlesheim" wrote in message
...
On Nov 26, 8:23 pm, "Bozena" wrote:
The Gateway 17" CRT monitor on my 1994 P5-90 desktop running Win95a
is getting a little flaky. The desktop occasionally wiggles and shakes
right and
left. The video card is an STB Powergraph 64 Video with STB Win 95.
Should there be any problem replacing it with an Acer 19" wide panel LCD
monitor with a standard VGA connector?

Thanks!
Scott


Both "the Postman Delivers and Ben Myers are very knowledgeable
individuals and I've learned much from their posts. Another option
would be to search your local Craigslist to see if you could get a
19'' or 17" CRT monitor cheap or free and ask people you know if they
have one collecting dust somewhere. I've picked numerous 17' CRT
monitors which I've donated to a nonprofit group and have a couple of
gathering dust that I haven't donated yet. You may want to consider
updating your video card, both www.geeks.com and www.pacificgeek.com
handle pci video cards.

Even your 1994 Gateway has served you well you want to retire it
soon. I've seen PCs that have a Pentium 3 866mHz processor and
monitor on Craigslist for $70. My youngest son is still using our 1998
Gateway G-400, it has been upgraded many times and I'm just to cheap
to replace it. It still works fine for what he is using it for.

On the Craig's List note, I'm selling off some older hardware there and
happen to have several Old CRTs. If your In the St. Louis / St. Charles,
Missouri area contact me and perhaps we can work something out.


 




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