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Zalman ZM80C with a 9800 Pro?
I'm in the process of selecting some bits to stop the incessant wine of my
PC, with the 9800 Pro and P4 stock cooler being the worst offenders. Having looked around the web, the Zalman ZM80C seems to be the best as far as noise is concerned - am I correct? Are there any alternatives I may have overlooked? I have a Hercules 9800Pro 128Mb which I think has Zalman compatible mountings around the GPU. How difficult is it to pull the Hercules cooler off? I understand it invalidates the warranty - couldn't I just put it back on if I have any problems with the card? Also, the Zalman site states the optional fan is "recommended" with the 9800 Pro. Is anyone getting away with not using one? I don't overclock. Not being very heat savvy, what would happen if the card overheated? Graphical glitches? Artifacts? Smoke? I don't really want to fork out £37 for the Zalman if it won't do what I want it to i.e. silence my graphics card. Cheers, Ted. |
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- Ted stood up at show-n-tell, in , and said: I'm in the process of selecting some bits to stop the incessant wine of my PC, with the 9800 Pro and P4 stock cooler being the worst offenders. Having looked around the web, the Zalman ZM80C seems to be the best as far as noise is concerned - am I correct? Yes, NO noise can be considered the most noiseless Are there any alternatives I may have overlooked? I believe Thermaltake, and a few others, make the same thing. Prices vary. I have a Hercules 9800Pro 128Mb which I think has Zalman compatible mountings around the GPU. How difficult is it to pull the Hercules cooler off? I understand it invalidates the warranty - couldn't I just put it back on if I have any problems with the card? Depends on how nimble you are, with those plastic studs that they use. I was able to put the stock fan/sink, back onto my PowerColor 9700np. Also, the Zalman site states the optional fan is "recommended" with the 9800 Pro. Is anyone getting away with not using one? I don't overclock. Not being very heat savvy, what would happen if the card overheated? Graphical glitches? Artifacts? Smoke? With today's stuff, it's best to have a fan blowing on that area of the motherboard. It, particularly, benefits the heatsink on the video card. I don't really want to fork out £37 for the Zalman if it won't do what I want it to i.e. silence my graphics card. Trial and error, my boy. Trial, and error. Cheers, Ted. -- Strontium "It's no surprise, to me. I am my own worst enemy. `Cause every now, and then, I kick the livin' **** `outta me." - Lit |
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Ted, just buy this:
http://www.arctic-cooling.com/en/products/vga_silencer/ Its completely brilliant in every respect and half the price of the Zalman. I run mine in silent mode and can overclock my 9700 Pro by an *extra* 30MHz or so over the stock cooler. So I can run at 410MHz with a 9700Pro! Its a brilliant product and I can't recommend it highly enough. Chip. "Ted" wrote in message ... I'm in the process of selecting some bits to stop the incessant wine of my PC, with the 9800 Pro and P4 stock cooler being the worst offenders. Having looked around the web, the Zalman ZM80C seems to be the best as far as noise is concerned - am I correct? Are there any alternatives I may have overlooked? I have a Hercules 9800Pro 128Mb which I think has Zalman compatible mountings around the GPU. How difficult is it to pull the Hercules cooler off? I understand it invalidates the warranty - couldn't I just put it back on if I have any problems with the card? Also, the Zalman site states the optional fan is "recommended" with the 9800 Pro. Is anyone getting away with not using one? I don't overclock. Not being very heat savvy, what would happen if the card overheated? Graphical glitches? Artifacts? Smoke? I don't really want to fork out £37 for the Zalman if it won't do what I want it to i.e. silence my graphics card. Cheers, Ted. |
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Thanks for the advice guys. I'm going to order the Zalman, although I'm not
particularly looking forward to pulling the heatsink off my £270 card mind, especially as it is only a month old. Anyway, I'll let you know how I got on. Ted |
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"Ted" wrote in message
... Thanks for the advice guys. I'm going to order the Zalman, although I'm not particularly looking forward to pulling the heatsink off my £270 card mind, especially as it is only a month old. Anyway, I'll let you know how I got on. Ted Ted, don't do it! Read my post and go for the www.arctic-cooling.com vga silencer! Its a way better product, easier to fit, less than half the price, better overclocker. The Zalman is an OK product too. But why pay 2x more for something that's just not as good? Chip. |
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Quick question about the VGA SILENCER....what about the space created
by the infamous ATI shim? Do you have to remove the shim to install the silencer or??? |
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Hi Chip,
Why do you contend that the Zalman is not as good? I just checked out both sites and I was impressed by the amount of spec info Zalman provides and the animated Zalman installation instructions. The Zalman unit has a heatpipe and a massive heatsink on *both* sides of the GPU. Also, I just watched the Tech TV video in which Yoshi demonstrates his totally silent computer in which he uses Zalman units on the CPU *and* the graphics card. Based on the info I have read, I'm going to use Zalman on the CPU and GPU of my new box. We're all probably concerned about money but here we're talking about how much $20? The Arctic unit is probably very good but I can't find any info to support your contention that it is better than the Zalman - although I must confess I haven't researched the issue thoroughly s. BTW, in the Intel P4, 2.8C CPU database on Overclockers.com I see quite a few Zalmans but no Arctic units. Of course here I'm referring to CPU coolers and not GPUs. -- Tally Ho! Ed "Chip" wrote in message ... "Ted" wrote in message ... Thanks for the advice guys. I'm going to order the Zalman, although I'm not particularly looking forward to pulling the heatsink off my £270 card mind, especially as it is only a month old. Anyway, I'll let you know how I got on. Ted Ted, don't do it! Read my post and go for the www.arctic-cooling.com vga silencer! Its a way better product, easier to fit, less than half the price, better overclocker. The Zalman is an OK product too. But why pay 2x more for something that's just not as good? Chip. |
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On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 07:06:20 +0000 (UTC)
"Ted" wrote: Thanks for the advice guys. I'm going to order the Zalman, although=20 I'm not particularly looking forward to pulling the heatsink off my =A3270 card mind, especially as it is only a month old. =20 Anyway, I'll let you know how I got on. Having just installed one of these myself I have a few comments and this looks as good a place as any to put them. The ZM-80C comes with two mounting blocks, a narrow one that looks to have been targetted specifically at the Radeon 9800 and a wider one that apparently is to deal with board where the holes are too far apart for the narrow one. They provide some spare parts which is a good thing IMO and a rarity these days--drop one of the screws down a crack and it's no disaster.=20 Also a screwdriver--anybody know any charities that need a bunch of small Phillips screwdrivers? Getting the old heat sink off the 9800 is no problem at all--pull on the old one gently and while pulling take a pair of long-nosed pliers and sqeeze each of the two mounting pins and it pops right off, no hassle, no trauma. The 9800 looks to have had some kind of silver-based heat sink compound on it--I had a tube of Arctic Silver on hand so used that in that location--figured ATI wouldn't have spent the extra half a cent or whatever it costs them without a reason--used the stuff that comes with the Zalman in the others that had larger contact surfaces--there was a little left over in the first tube and there's a second in the spares. No hassle if you don't have Arctic Silver though--Dansdata ran a test a while back in which he determined that toothpaste has slightly better heat transfer than any of the commercial compounds and Vegemite comes close, but they dry out and the commercial compounds don't--regardless the difference is small. Haven't run a stress-test on it yet, in normal use the Zalman, sans fan, gets hot but not so hot that I can't hold my hand on it--newegg was out of the fans, so I ordered from siliconacoustics (not the cheapest around, would probably have done as well to go by CrapUSA, but I was ordering some other bits and saw the fan and figured it didn't cost enough to be worth looking for cheaper)--newegg shipped from Tech Data's New Jersey warehouse and the stuff arrived overnight (I'm close to New Jersey), siliconacoustics shipped from the west coast, so the fan won't be here until Friday--I'm going to try to avoid getting too rambunctious until then. --=20 --=20 --John Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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