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Well, that's different... (Dim2400 built in video behavior with add-in PCI card...)
I found an ATI Rage 128 Ultra4X Pro PCI card kicking around and decided to
put it into my newfound Dimension 2400. It came right up and worked like it should, but I was surprised to see that Windows XP was only reporting 504MB of memory installed in the system. A visit to the Device Manager showed a "display adapter" with drivers that were not installed. On a whim, I decided to install the Intel 845 graphics drivers--and they worked. The unknown display adapter disappeared. Now the Display control panel acts as though the Intel video could be used for a second monitor. I've never seen that before. I'm used to onboard video systems turning themselves off or going to "sleep" when an add-in card is detected. This one does not appear to do that--there is no choice to turn it off in Dell setup (only "auto" or "onboard" may be selected) and it is still siphoning off some memory. Pretty wild...I think I'm going to get a second monitor over here and try it. William |
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Well, that's different... (Dim2400 built in video behavior with add-in PCI card...)
-----Original Message----- From: William R. Walsh ech.com] Posted At: Thursday, May 08, 2008 12:43 AM Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell Conversation: Well, that's different... (Dim2400 built in video behavior with add-in PCI card...) Subject: Well, that's different... (Dim2400 built in video behavior with add-in PCI card...) I found an ATI Rage 128 Ultra4X Pro PCI card kicking around and decided to put it into my newfound Dimension 2400. It came right up and worked like it should, but I was surprised to see that Windows XP was only reporting 504MB of memory installed in the system. A visit to the Device Manager showed a "display adapter" with drivers that were not installed. On a whim, I decided to install the Intel 845 graphics drivers--and they worked. The unknown display adapter disappeared. Now the Display control panel acts as though the Intel video could be used for a second monitor. I've never seen that before. I'm used to onboard video systems turning themselves off or going to "sleep" when an add-in card is detected. This one does not appear to do that--there is no choice to turn it off in Dell setup (only "auto" or "onboard" may be selected) and it is still siphoning off some memory. Pretty wild...I think I'm going to get a second monitor over here and try it. William It will work. That's why I responded to a previous post where they were having problems that you sometimes need to have a monitor plugged into both to set it up properly. |
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Well, that's different... (Dim2400 built in video behavior with add-in PCI card...)
"Tom Scales" wrote:
From: William R. Walsh I found an ATI Rage 128 Ultra4X Pro PCI card kicking around and decided to put it into my newfound Dimension 2400. It came right up and worked like it should, but I was surprised to see that Windows XP was only reporting 504MB of memory installed in the system. A visit to the Device Manager showed a "display adapter" with drivers that were not installed. On a whim, I decided to install the Intel 845 graphics drivers--and they worked. The unknown display adapter disappeared. Now the Display control panel acts as though the Intel video could be used for a second monitor. I've never seen that before. I'm used to onboard video systems turning themselves off or going to "sleep" when an add-in card is detected. This one does not appear to do that--there is no choice to turn it off in Dell setup (only "auto" or "onboard" may be selected) and it is still siphoning off some memory. Pretty wild...I think I'm going to get a second monitor over here and try it. It will work. That's why I responded to a previous post where they were having problems that you sometimes need to have a monitor plugged into both to set it up properly. VVVVeeeerrrryyyy IIIInnnntttteeeerrrreeeessssttttiiiinnnngggg {apologies to Arte Johnson/Laugh-In}. When I bought my D4400, I got it with the onboard video, since I already had a surplus, reasonably high-end (for 2001) video card to install. I, too, found that installation of the new card did not automagically turn off the onboard video, and, after a few hair-pulling sessions in bios set-up, found there was no way to turn it off. Since the only manifestation was the second, onboard "monitor" showing up when I accessed the "Display Properties | Settings" screen, and the system always behaved as if the Diamond Stealth card and the monitor attached to it were its only video, I never worried about it. I never did do anything fancy with the 4400 that turned up the problem(s) William Walsh is experiencing, but then I'm a "plain vanilla" kind of PC user. At the now defunct antique shop I worked at until Dec, the owners bought a second hand 2400. I'm inheriting it, now that it is surplus. Mebbe when I get it I'll do a little pooking around. Or mebbe not, on the "sleeping dogs" theory. I do wonder though, since apparently the 2400 and 4400 both manifested this, whether the 8400 did also, thus making it a generational quirk. -- OJ III |
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Well, that's different... (Dim2400 built in video behavior with add-in PCI card...)
"Ogden Johnson III" wrote in message ... "Tom Scales" wrote: From: William R. Walsh I found an ATI Rage 128 Ultra4X Pro PCI card kicking around and decided to put it into my newfound Dimension 2400. It came right up and worked like it should, but I was surprised to see that Windows XP was only reporting 504MB of memory installed in the system. A visit to the Device Manager showed a "display adapter" with drivers that were not installed. On a whim, I decided to install the Intel 845 graphics drivers--and they worked. The unknown display adapter disappeared. Now the Display control panel acts as though the Intel video could be used for a second monitor. I've never seen that before. I'm used to onboard video systems turning themselves off or going to "sleep" when an add-in card is detected. This one does not appear to do that--there is no choice to turn it off in Dell setup (only "auto" or "onboard" may be selected) and it is still siphoning off some memory. Pretty wild...I think I'm going to get a second monitor over here and try it. It will work. That's why I responded to a previous post where they were having problems that you sometimes need to have a monitor plugged into both to set it up properly. VVVVeeeerrrryyyy IIIInnnntttteeeerrrreeeessssttttiiiinnnngggg {apologies to Arte Johnson/Laugh-In}. When I bought my D4400, I got it with the onboard video, since I already had a surplus, reasonably high-end (for 2001) video card to install. I, too, found that installation of the new card did not automagically turn off the onboard video, and, after a few hair-pulling sessions in bios set-up, found there was no way to turn it off. Since the only manifestation was the second, onboard "monitor" showing up when I accessed the "Display Properties | Settings" screen, and the system always behaved as if the Diamond Stealth card and the monitor attached to it were its only video, I never worried about it. I never did do anything fancy with the 4400 that turned up the problem(s) William Walsh is experiencing, but then I'm a "plain vanilla" kind of PC user. At the now defunct antique shop I worked at until Dec, the owners bought a second hand 2400. I'm inheriting it, now that it is surplus. Mebbe when I get it I'll do a little pooking around. Or mebbe not, on the "sleeping dogs" theory. I do wonder though, since apparently the 2400 and 4400 both manifested this, whether the 8400 did also, thus making it a generational quirk. -- OJ III Not to split hairs here, but neither the Dimension 4400 or 8400 featured integrated video. Both systems had only a dedicated graphics card (AGP and PCIexpress). There were no slim-line/small form factor options for either of those models. Stew |
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Well, that's different... (Dim2400 built in video behavior withadd-in PCI card...)
Hi!
I never did do anything fancy with the 4400 that turned up the problem(s) William Walsh is experiencing, but then I'm a "plain vanilla" kind of PC user. A simple "William" would do. :-) That said, I'm not having a problem. I just saw this and thought it was, as you said, "very interesting". I've *never* seen Intel chipset based video stay alive when another video card came in to the picture. (It's also worth noting that the Intel integrated video systems *can* in fact have dedicated memory. I've seen Dell and eMachines systems with the solder pads for said memory. However, only Compaq ever seems to have used that feature in their Deskpro EN lineup. Those Compaqs take a so-called "AIMM" VRAM module that plugs into the AGP slot.) And I'm guilty as charged when it comes to being a tinkerer instead of a "plain vanilla" PC user. William |
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