A computer components & hardware forum. HardwareBanter

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » HardwareBanter forum » System Manufacturers & Vendors » Dell Computers
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

Well, that's different... (Dim2400 built in video behavior with add-in PCI card...)



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old May 8th 08, 06:42 AM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
William R. Walsh
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 930
Default Well, that's different... (Dim2400 built in video behavior with add-in PCI card...)

I found an ATI Rage 128 Ultra4X Pro PCI card kicking around and decided to
put it into my newfound Dimension 2400. It came right up and worked like it
should, but I was surprised to see that Windows XP was only reporting 504MB
of memory installed in the system.

A visit to the Device Manager showed a "display adapter" with drivers that
were not installed. On a whim, I decided to install the Intel 845 graphics
drivers--and they worked. The unknown display adapter disappeared. Now the
Display control panel acts as though the Intel video could be used for a
second monitor.

I've never seen that before. I'm used to onboard video systems turning
themselves off or going to "sleep" when an add-in card is detected. This one
does not appear to do that--there is no choice to turn it off in Dell setup
(only "auto" or "onboard" may be selected) and it is still siphoning off
some memory.

Pretty wild...I think I'm going to get a second monitor over here and try
it.

William


  #2  
Old May 8th 08, 11:41 AM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Tom Scales
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,502
Default Well, that's different... (Dim2400 built in video behavior with add-in PCI card...)



-----Original Message-----
From: William R. Walsh
ech.com]
Posted At: Thursday, May 08, 2008 12:43 AM
Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Conversation: Well, that's different... (Dim2400 built in video
behavior with add-in PCI card...)
Subject: Well, that's different... (Dim2400 built in video behavior
with add-in PCI card...)

I found an ATI Rage 128 Ultra4X Pro PCI card kicking around and

decided
to
put it into my newfound Dimension 2400. It came right up and worked
like it
should, but I was surprised to see that Windows XP was only reporting
504MB
of memory installed in the system.

A visit to the Device Manager showed a "display adapter" with drivers
that
were not installed. On a whim, I decided to install the Intel 845
graphics
drivers--and they worked. The unknown display adapter disappeared. Now
the
Display control panel acts as though the Intel video could be used for
a
second monitor.

I've never seen that before. I'm used to onboard video systems turning
themselves off or going to "sleep" when an add-in card is detected.
This one
does not appear to do that--there is no choice to turn it off in Dell
setup
(only "auto" or "onboard" may be selected) and it is still siphoning
off
some memory.

Pretty wild...I think I'm going to get a second monitor over here and
try
it.

William



It will work. That's why I responded to a previous post where they were
having problems that you sometimes need to have a monitor plugged into
both to set it up properly.

  #3  
Old May 8th 08, 12:36 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Ogden Johnson III
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 123
Default Well, that's different... (Dim2400 built in video behavior with add-in PCI card...)

"Tom Scales" wrote:

From: William R. Walsh


I found an ATI Rage 128 Ultra4X Pro PCI card kicking around and decided to
put it into my newfound Dimension 2400. It came right up and worked
like it should, but I was surprised to see that Windows XP was only reporting 504MB
of memory installed in the system.


A visit to the Device Manager showed a "display adapter" with drivers that
were not installed. On a whim, I decided to install the Intel 845 graphics
drivers--and they worked. The unknown display adapter disappeared. Now the
Display control panel acts as though the Intel video could be used for a
second monitor.

I've never seen that before. I'm used to onboard video systems turning
themselves off or going to "sleep" when an add-in card is detected. This one
does not appear to do that--there is no choice to turn it off in Dell setup
(only "auto" or "onboard" may be selected) and it is still siphoning off
some memory.

Pretty wild...I think I'm going to get a second monitor over here and try
it.


It will work. That's why I responded to a previous post where they were
having problems that you sometimes need to have a monitor plugged into
both to set it up properly.


VVVVeeeerrrryyyy IIIInnnntttteeeerrrreeeessssttttiiiinnnngggg
{apologies to Arte Johnson/Laugh-In}. When I bought my D4400, I
got it with the onboard video, since I already had a surplus,
reasonably high-end (for 2001) video card to install. I, too,
found that installation of the new card did not automagically
turn off the onboard video, and, after a few hair-pulling
sessions in bios set-up, found there was no way to turn it off.
Since the only manifestation was the second, onboard "monitor"
showing up when I accessed the "Display Properties | Settings"
screen, and the system always behaved as if the Diamond Stealth
card and the monitor attached to it were its only video, I never
worried about it. I never did do anything fancy with the 4400
that turned up the problem(s) William Walsh is experiencing, but
then I'm a "plain vanilla" kind of PC user.

At the now defunct antique shop I worked at until Dec, the owners
bought a second hand 2400. I'm inheriting it, now that it is
surplus. Mebbe when I get it I'll do a little pooking around.
Or mebbe not, on the "sleeping dogs" theory. I do wonder though,
since apparently the 2400 and 4400 both manifested this, whether
the 8400 did also, thus making it a generational quirk.

--
OJ III
  #4  
Old May 8th 08, 03:08 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
S.Lewis[_3_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,362
Default Well, that's different... (Dim2400 built in video behavior with add-in PCI card...)


"Ogden Johnson III" wrote in message
...
"Tom Scales" wrote:

From: William R. Walsh


I found an ATI Rage 128 Ultra4X Pro PCI card kicking around and decided
to
put it into my newfound Dimension 2400. It came right up and worked
like it should, but I was surprised to see that Windows XP was only
reporting 504MB
of memory installed in the system.


A visit to the Device Manager showed a "display adapter" with drivers
that
were not installed. On a whim, I decided to install the Intel 845
graphics
drivers--and they worked. The unknown display adapter disappeared. Now
the
Display control panel acts as though the Intel video could be used for
a
second monitor.

I've never seen that before. I'm used to onboard video systems turning
themselves off or going to "sleep" when an add-in card is detected. This
one
does not appear to do that--there is no choice to turn it off in Dell
setup
(only "auto" or "onboard" may be selected) and it is still siphoning off
some memory.

Pretty wild...I think I'm going to get a second monitor over here and
try
it.


It will work. That's why I responded to a previous post where they were
having problems that you sometimes need to have a monitor plugged into
both to set it up properly.


VVVVeeeerrrryyyy IIIInnnntttteeeerrrreeeessssttttiiiinnnngggg
{apologies to Arte Johnson/Laugh-In}. When I bought my D4400, I
got it with the onboard video, since I already had a surplus,
reasonably high-end (for 2001) video card to install. I, too,
found that installation of the new card did not automagically
turn off the onboard video, and, after a few hair-pulling
sessions in bios set-up, found there was no way to turn it off.
Since the only manifestation was the second, onboard "monitor"
showing up when I accessed the "Display Properties | Settings"
screen, and the system always behaved as if the Diamond Stealth
card and the monitor attached to it were its only video, I never
worried about it. I never did do anything fancy with the 4400
that turned up the problem(s) William Walsh is experiencing, but
then I'm a "plain vanilla" kind of PC user.

At the now defunct antique shop I worked at until Dec, the owners
bought a second hand 2400. I'm inheriting it, now that it is
surplus. Mebbe when I get it I'll do a little pooking around.
Or mebbe not, on the "sleeping dogs" theory. I do wonder though,
since apparently the 2400 and 4400 both manifested this, whether
the 8400 did also, thus making it a generational quirk.

--
OJ III





Not to split hairs here, but neither the Dimension 4400 or 8400 featured
integrated video. Both systems had only a dedicated graphics card (AGP and
PCIexpress). There were no slim-line/small form factor options for either
of those models.


Stew


  #5  
Old May 8th 08, 08:30 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
[email protected]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 409
Default Well, that's different... (Dim2400 built in video behavior withadd-in PCI card...)

Hi!

I never did do anything fancy with the 4400
that turned up the problem(s) William Walsh is
experiencing, but then I'm a "plain vanilla" kind
of PC user.


A simple "William" would do. :-)

That said, I'm not having a problem. I just saw this and thought it
was, as you said, "very interesting". I've *never* seen Intel chipset
based video stay alive when another video card came in to the picture.

(It's also worth noting that the Intel integrated video systems *can*
in fact have dedicated memory. I've seen Dell and eMachines systems
with the solder pads for said memory. However, only Compaq ever seems
to have used that feature in their Deskpro EN lineup. Those Compaqs
take a so-called "AIMM" VRAM module that plugs into the AGP slot.)

And I'm guilty as charged when it comes to being a tinkerer instead of
a "plain vanilla" PC user.

William
 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Which card have 264 h.d video format accelarators built in ? Inch High Private EYE Nvidia Videocards 2 April 24th 07 05:27 AM
Which card have 264 h.d video format accelarators built in ? Inch High Private EYE Ati Videocards 1 April 24th 07 01:33 AM
strange behavior from new built system Jo9100 Homebuilt PC's 4 February 17th 07 06:22 AM
Dumb question - Dim2400 / default video memory Colin Wilson Dell Computers 6 November 17th 06 08:13 PM
D845GERG2 Built In Digital Video or Have to Buy Card? Nat Intel 2 December 8th 04 06:49 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:16 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 HardwareBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.