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updated Nintendo Wii specs - pinch of salt needed
"Chris F" wrote in message ... On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 03:30:46 GMT, "Guest" wrote: This should be a serious let-down to all of you people who tried to defend Nintendo. Now you know why I had to put them down. Shame on them for selling an overclocked Gamecube. yes shame on them for being original. shame on them for realising that games consoles don;t have to be purely about how many pixels and polygons they can chuck about, but can dare to focus on something a lot of devs forget about: gameplay. damn them to hell! i really am worried about why you seem to have such a hard-on for flashy graphics and high resolutions. maybe you're hoping that the next tomb raider game will be so detailed, that if you play in HD and look really, really closely you might, just might, be able to see Lara's camel toe? -- gamertag: Chrisflynnuk http://live.xbox.com/member/Chrisflynnuk See buddy, the gameplay on the other systems is just fine. If they did not have great gameplay, they would not have sold. Just because Nintendo chose(or had no choice) but to focus on a controller does not mean that it is makes for better gameplay. That has yet to be proven. I doubt that it could offer BETTER gameplay, maybe just different. That being the case, as I said before they should have just released a new controller for the GC instead of trying to sell the GC again. Now I see how Nintendo is so profitable - always selling the same OLD ****. |
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updated Nintendo Wii specs - pinch of salt needed
"Mantorok" wrote in message ... From what I've gathered the specs aren't going to truly relate what the Wii can do, from what I've heard they are focusing on getting "more" out of "less". The software-architecture is what they are focusing on, probably a very powerful framework for getting a lot out of the Wii in very little time and with very little resource needed. The Wii games will look great, but it's not just that, it'll be the fact that devs will be able to worry less about the graphics and spend the time otherwise spent on graphical techniques, on the new controller. I thought this was quite common knowledge that there approach was towards the architectual side of the software..... Kev I guess that would be the newly revised excuse for the Wii? You know those sellers in stores love to discourage people from buying certain things. You can bet that they will tell people it is just a GC in another package. |
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updated Nintendo Wii specs - pinch of salt needed
Guest wrote:
You are just trying to make yourself feel better about that weak system. You are also assuming that I am a child who gives a **** about a bull**** controller over high powered graphics. I believe you'll find quite the opposite; he assumes you're a child who gives a **** about bull**** high powered graphics over a controller. And who are we to argue? Sorry, couldn't resist the one..... -- "Global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters are a direct effect of the shrinking numbers of Pirates since the 1800s" |
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updated Nintendo Wii specs - pinch of salt needed
"Guest" wrote in message
.. . "Relic" wrote in message .. . Guest wrote: "El Guapo" wrote in message ... "AirRaid Mach 2.5" wrote in message oups.com... http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/wii/rum...ecs-190815.php snip So according to this, the Wii is just a Gamecube overclocked by 50% with a new controller? If that's true, then what exactly have IBM and ATI been working on for the last several years? That could have been accomplished in a matter of months. Personally, I think these are in fact the specs for the Wii development kits, but that the final hardware will be different. Not necessarily a lot faster, of course. There's only so much you can do with such a small form factor. The thing is, if these really are the final specs, it's hard to imagine how ATI and IBM could get such a tiny increase in performance five years later, especially when the system was already pretty small to begin with. You'd have to really work at it in order to not come up with something faster than this. Unless Nintendo is planning on selling the system for $99 right off the bat, it makes little sense. What does make sense is why Nintendo never said a word about it. It is like being in a locker room and having the smallest Wii Wii. NOW, I think I know why they call it the Wii! This system is an embarrassment to videogame systems. But even tho' small, it seems to be the only one in the room to know what to do with it...^_^ -- Funny, but even that has yet to be proven. All that has happened is that we have been told it is great because that is all that Nintendo can promote. They came to the party empty handed. I've been seeing a lot of developer comments that prove otherwise. Developers and publishers seem very excited at the idea of having a machine they can just create games for without having to push the technology envelope. They also like the idea of inventing new gameplay mechanics that can't be done with traditional controllers, something they can really focus on thanks to the fact that the system won't require a huge investment in graphics R&D. That's already happened with the new Rayman game, where they are now focusing on the Wii version over the others, because of the controller. |
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updated Nintendo Wii specs - pinch of salt needed
"Guest" wrote in message
. .. "Chris F" wrote in message ... On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 03:30:46 GMT, "Guest" wrote: This should be a serious let-down to all of you people who tried to defend Nintendo. Now you know why I had to put them down. Shame on them for selling an overclocked Gamecube. yes shame on them for being original. shame on them for realising that games consoles don;t have to be purely about how many pixels and polygons they can chuck about, but can dare to focus on something a lot of devs forget about: gameplay. damn them to hell! i really am worried about why you seem to have such a hard-on for flashy graphics and high resolutions. maybe you're hoping that the next tomb raider game will be so detailed, that if you play in HD and look really, really closely you might, just might, be able to see Lara's camel toe? -- gamertag: Chrisflynnuk http://live.xbox.com/member/Chrisflynnuk See buddy, the gameplay on the other systems is just fine. If they did not have great gameplay, they would not have sold. Just because Nintendo chose(or had no choice) but to focus on a controller does not mean that it is makes for better gameplay. That has yet to be proven. I doubt that it could offer BETTER gameplay, maybe just different. That being the case, as I said before they should have just released a new controller for the GC instead of trying to sell the GC again. Now I see how Nintendo is so profitable - always selling the same OLD ****. Different is good. Selling the Gamecube with a new controller add on would be stupid. That kind of thing just doesn't work. The new console is slick looking, and has some built in stuff that is very nice (wireless internet & controllers, SD card interface, Gamecube ports, 24 hour internet connectivity) that will definitely help to sell it. It's also more powerful than the Gamecube, no matter how you look at it. |
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updated Nintendo Wii specs - pinch of salt needed
"Guest" wrote in message
. .. "Mantorok" wrote in message ... From what I've gathered the specs aren't going to truly relate what the Wii can do, from what I've heard they are focusing on getting "more" out of "less". The software-architecture is what they are focusing on, probably a very powerful framework for getting a lot out of the Wii in very little time and with very little resource needed. The Wii games will look great, but it's not just that, it'll be the fact that devs will be able to worry less about the graphics and spend the time otherwise spent on graphical techniques, on the new controller. I thought this was quite common knowledge that there approach was towards the architectual side of the software..... Kev I guess that would be the newly revised excuse for the Wii? You know those sellers in stores love to discourage people from buying certain things. You can bet that they will tell people it is just a GC in another package. Right... that's why nobody buys the DS, because retail workers are out there telling everybody it's just a GBA with two screens. I think that unlike the Gamecube, the Wii will actually be a popular item for retailers to push. It's clearly different from the other two consoles, which is a good thing from the retailer's perspective. It gives them an opportunity to broaden the overall market they reach with their game consoles and games. |
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updated Nintendo Wii specs - pinch of salt needed
"[ste parker]" wrote in message ... Guest wrote: You are just trying to make yourself feel better about that weak system. You are also assuming that I am a child who gives a **** about a bull**** controller over high powered graphics. I believe you'll find quite the opposite; he assumes you're a child who gives a **** about bull**** high powered graphics over a controller. And who are we to argue? Sorry, couldn't resist the one..... You should have.... |
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updated Nintendo Wii specs - pinch of salt needed
"El Guapo" wrote in message . .. "Guest" wrote in message . .. "Mantorok" wrote in message ... From what I've gathered the specs aren't going to truly relate what the Wii can do, from what I've heard they are focusing on getting "more" out of "less". The software-architecture is what they are focusing on, probably a very powerful framework for getting a lot out of the Wii in very little time and with very little resource needed. The Wii games will look great, but it's not just that, it'll be the fact that devs will be able to worry less about the graphics and spend the time otherwise spent on graphical techniques, on the new controller. I thought this was quite common knowledge that there approach was towards the architectual side of the software..... Kev I guess that would be the newly revised excuse for the Wii? You know those sellers in stores love to discourage people from buying certain things. You can bet that they will tell people it is just a GC in another package. Right... that's why nobody buys the DS, because retail workers are out there telling everybody it's just a GBA with two screens. I think that unlike the Gamecube, the Wii will actually be a popular item for retailers to push. It's clearly different from the other two consoles, which is a good thing from the retailer's perspective. It gives them an opportunity to broaden the overall market they reach with their game consoles and games. What ever you say. You come with excuse after excuse. What will your excuse be if the Wii flops? |
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updated Nintendo Wii specs - pinch of salt needed
On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 18:23:25 GMT, "Guest" wrote:
I think that unlike the Gamecube, the Wii will actually be a popular item for retailers to push. It's clearly different from the other two consoles, which is a good thing from the retailer's perspective. It gives them an opportunity to broaden the overall market they reach with their game consoles and games. What ever you say. You come with excuse after excuse. What will your excuse be if the Wii flops? and what will you have to say if it doesn't? -- gamertag: Chrisflynnuk http://live.xbox.com/member/Chrisflynnuk |
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updated Nintendo Wii specs - pinch of salt needed
"Guest" wrote in message
m... "El Guapo" wrote in message . .. "Guest" wrote in message . .. "Mantorok" wrote in message ... From what I've gathered the specs aren't going to truly relate what the Wii can do, from what I've heard they are focusing on getting "more" out of "less". The software-architecture is what they are focusing on, probably a very powerful framework for getting a lot out of the Wii in very little time and with very little resource needed. The Wii games will look great, but it's not just that, it'll be the fact that devs will be able to worry less about the graphics and spend the time otherwise spent on graphical techniques, on the new controller. I thought this was quite common knowledge that there approach was towards the architectual side of the software..... Kev I guess that would be the newly revised excuse for the Wii? You know those sellers in stores love to discourage people from buying certain things. You can bet that they will tell people it is just a GC in another package. Right... that's why nobody buys the DS, because retail workers are out there telling everybody it's just a GBA with two screens. I think that unlike the Gamecube, the Wii will actually be a popular item for retailers to push. It's clearly different from the other two consoles, which is a good thing from the retailer's perspective. It gives them an opportunity to broaden the overall market they reach with their game consoles and games. What ever you say. You come with excuse after excuse. What will your excuse be if the Wii flops? What would anybody need excuses for? Either Nintendo's new direction in consoles works, or it doesn't. At this point if it flops it will be because Nintendo was wrong about what people want. If it succeeds then it proves that they were right. About the only thing left to possibly screw up is the price or the advertising, but I think they'll be OK there. It should be inexpensive enough for anybody to buy, and if their ad campaign is as good as it has been with the DS they'll be in good shape. I don't like the name and I think it was a big mistake, at least for the NA/UK market, but it can definitely be overcome if they do everything else right. |
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