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Hey guys just want to get some feed back. My last 3 comouters have all been
AMD home builts but my next one may not be. I will be building a new computer to replace my aging 2200+ and I have to say unless something fantastic happens its gonna be Intel inside. No one needs 64 bit computing The intel P4 overclocks like mad A 1Gz+ gap is getting harder and harder for AMD to overcome New P4's will have added instructions P4 front side bus is bigger Most benchmarks show P4 ahead Finally, upcomming Prescott on reduced die size I want to stay with AMD but anyone know something I don't? |
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1. Well the current P4 3.2 is slower than the Athlon64 3200+.
2. Using 64bit software the P4 will be even more behind. 3. The Athlon doesn't have a FSB per say... but if you want to talk in Intel terms (i.e. 200mhz fsb quad pumped... not really 800mhz fsb) the Athlon would be something like 1600mhz fsb. 4. The Athlon64/FX will give you better benchmark results to impress your friends. 5. The Athlon64/FX can have the multiplier adjusted with software where as all P4 are multiplier locked. "The Spectre" wrote in message .. . Hey guys just want to get some feed back. My last 3 comouters have all been AMD home builts but my next one may not be. I will be building a new computer to replace my aging 2200+ and I have to say unless something fantastic happens its gonna be Intel inside. No one needs 64 bit computing The intel P4 overclocks like mad A 1Gz+ gap is getting harder and harder for AMD to overcome New P4's will have added instructions P4 front side bus is bigger Most benchmarks show P4 ahead Finally, upcomming Prescott on reduced die size I want to stay with AMD but anyone know something I don't? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.552 / Virus Database: 344 - Release Date: 12/15/2003 |
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"The Spectre" wrote in message .. . Hey guys just want to get some feed back. My last 3 comouters have all been AMD home builts but my next one may not be. I will be building a new computer to replace my aging 2200+ and I have to say unless something fantastic happens its gonna be Intel inside. No one needs 64 bit computing Intel and Microsoft might tend to disagree with you there, 2005 q1 intel will release their 64 bit chips/chipsets that will work with the amd64 instruction set. Microsoft SHOULD finally roll out Win XP64 q2 of next year The intel P4 overclocks like mad And they should, at the prices they charge... A 1Gz+ gap is getting harder and harder for AMD to overcome If their chips did less work per clock cycle then maybee it would stay cooler and they could keep up the gap?.. Raw MHZ isnt that important except for synthetic benchmarks. New P4's will have added instructions Yea?.. SSE4? or what.. AMD64 will be their next big instruction set to add P4 front side bus is bigger Yea, ? Most benchmarks show P4 ahead Yes they do, the 3200 p4 looks like a GREAT chip.. the EE could be great too if it wasnt so damn'd expensive. Finally, upcomming Prescott on reduced die size Yea, 1st quarter (maybee) for intel and 3rd quarter (maybee) for AMD.. 6 months can be a huge time in the processor world so it might make a big difference. I want to stay with AMD but anyone know something I don't? Shrug, Via is going to have quad core chips smaller than the athlons/p4's.. Microsoft is working with ibm and they are going to make their own chips probably (New Rival?).. New Optical Processors are working NOW and are roughly 1000 times faster than these speedy p4's that everyone loves to brag about. 1000 times faster means that this company has probably somewhere along the lines of 5/6 years to shrink it down so I dont think this love for intel or amd will matter once that happens. Lets not talk about holographic processors or single electron processors.. There is something better around the corner all the time. the Athlons were far ahead of intels p4 early on and now the p4 3200 can really do damage compared to amd systems. But 5 unlock'd 2500+ bartons sell for the same as the p4 3200 ht |
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If you can afford the high end Intels then go for it. When considering bang
for the buck, I don't see how anyone could consider a Intel. Have you seen this? http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=1927&p=1 It shows a $120 P4 getting absolutely smoked by an $85 dollar Barton. In mosts of the tests the P4 was beaten by the lowly $40 Duron. Oh, one more thing. You can't get an Nforce chipset on an Intel. That's the clincher for me right there. Dave "The Spectre" wrote in message .. . Hey guys just want to get some feed back. My last 3 comouters have all been AMD home builts but my next one may not be. I will be building a new computer to replace my aging 2200+ and I have to say unless something fantastic happens its gonna be Intel inside. No one needs 64 bit computing The intel P4 overclocks like mad A 1Gz+ gap is getting harder and harder for AMD to overcome New P4's will have added instructions P4 front side bus is bigger Most benchmarks show P4 ahead Finally, upcomming Prescott on reduced die size I want to stay with AMD but anyone know something I don't? |
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DaveL wrote:
If you can afford the high end Intels then go for it. When considering bang for the buck, I don't see how anyone could consider a Intel. Have you seen this? http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=1927&p=1 It shows a $120 P4 getting absolutely smoked by an $85 dollar Barton. In mosts of the tests the P4 was beaten by the lowly $40 Duron. No doubt, at the low end of "leftovers", AMD's rule. Intel chips never get down into the sub $100 level where AMD chips sell for 6 months after they were selling for $400+ when released. I use them for lots of machines and they work great. For a performance machine with software you can use today, on the high end I don't think it's the best route. Buy the time windows 64 comes out (and linux -apps- are written for 64 bit) you'll be able to buy an AMD64 for less than $100. -- Stacey |
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On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:40:48 -0500, The Spectre wrote:
Hey guys just want to get some feed back. My last 3 comouters have all been AMD home builts but my next one may not be. I will be building a new computer to replace my aging 2200+ and I have to say unless something fantastic happens its gonna be Intel inside. So build your Intel system and go away. No one needs 64 bit computing yep, and in the late 70's no one needed 16bit, and in the 80's no one needed 32bit. Wise up. The intel P4 overclocks like mad If you say so. A 1Gz+ gap is getting harder and harder for AMD to overcome New P4's will have added instructions P4 front side bus is bigger Most benchmarks show P4 ahead I don't know what you're talking about. There's hundreds of sites that show the P4 being put to shame by AMD's FX51. I'havent seen one that procl;aims the P4 to be the winner. Finally, upcomming Prescott on reduced die size Upcoming doesn't count now and there's no data on it. I want to stay with AMD but anyone know something I don't? I know that with AMD, you get what you pay for and more. With Intel, you pay for name and the blue people and don't get much for your money. $1000 will get you the new P4EE. Go for it, it's not my money.:-) -- Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB) http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.html |
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:44:35 -0500, stacey wrote:
Buy the time windows 64 comes out (and linux -apps- are written for 64 bit) you'll be able to buy an AMD64 for less than $100. You just don't get it. Linux apps don't have to be rewritten for 64 bit. They just have to be recompiled. So the time is now and I can't find any AND 64's for under $100.:-) -- Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB) http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.html |
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Wes Newell wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:44:35 -0500, stacey wrote: Buy the time windows 64 comes out (and linux -apps- are written for 64 bit) you'll be able to buy an AMD64 for less than $100. You just don't get it. Linux apps don't have to be rewritten for 64 bit. They just have to be recompiled. Which some people don't want to screw with.. Probably will be next spring before a real 64 distro is out that includes all the apps compiled for it? Could be wrong and the ones that are out are all 64 bit compiled? So the time is now and I can't find any AND 64's for under $100.:-) Bleeding edge always costs ya! But I bet early spring they'll be under $100. -- Stacey |
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"The Spectre" wrote in message .. . Hey guys just want to get some feed back. My last 3 comouters have all been AMD home builts but my next one may not be. I will be building a new computer to replace my aging 2200+ and I have to say unless something fantastic happens its gonna be Intel inside. No one needs 64 bit computing The intel P4 overclocks like mad A 1Gz+ gap is getting harder and harder for AMD to overcome New P4's will have added instructions P4 front side bus is bigger Most benchmarks show P4 ahead Finally, upcomming Prescott on reduced die size I want to stay with AMD but anyone know something I don't? If you decide to go with intel don't let the door bump you on the ass ;-) |
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I asked for opinions and feedback not A-Hole smart ass coments so if you
have something informative and accurate to add please do so otherwise keep it to yourself. "Leadfoot" wrote in message news:xceEb.14712$J77.11734@fed1read07... "The Spectre" wrote in message .. . Hey guys just want to get some feed back. My last 3 comouters have all been AMD home builts but my next one may not be. I will be building a new computer to replace my aging 2200+ and I have to say unless something fantastic happens its gonna be Intel inside. No one needs 64 bit computing The intel P4 overclocks like mad A 1Gz+ gap is getting harder and harder for AMD to overcome New P4's will have added instructions P4 front side bus is bigger Most benchmarks show P4 ahead Finally, upcomming Prescott on reduced die size I want to stay with AMD but anyone know something I don't? If you decide to go with intel don't let the door bump you on the ass ;-) I asked for opinions and feedback not A-Hole smart ass coments so if you have something informative and accurate to add please do so otherwise keep it to yourself. |
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