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If it ain't one f'n thing...
System info: WinXP Pro/SP2, AIW 9800 Pro
So I upgrade MMC to 9.06.1 and first time I try to run the TV tuner, the machine reboots. So I upgrade to the latest Catalyst driver. Now I'm getting a "Cannot initialize video" problem. So I reinstall the MMC update... Now it works... the first time I run the tuner. Works great, channel change is fast and smooth. Close it, and it gets a "Cannot initialize..." message every time until I reboot. Trying to playback a recorded .VCR file results in a crash of MMC... Can't these bozos get anything right? --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0515-0, 04/11/2005 Tested on: 4/11/2005 9:38:54 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com |
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"Matt Ion" wrote in message news:ChI6e.969507$8l.304128@pd7tw1no... System info: WinXP Pro/SP2, AIW 9800 Pro So I upgrade MMC to 9.06.1 and first time I try to run the TV tuner, the machine reboots. So I upgrade to the latest Catalyst driver. Now I'm getting a "Cannot initialize video" problem. So I reinstall the MMC update... Now it works... the first time I run the tuner. Works great, channel change is fast and smooth. Close it, and it gets a "Cannot initialize..." message every time until I reboot. Trying to playback a recorded .VCR file results in a crash of MMC... Can't these bozos get anything right? No. They're complete *idiots*--at least when it comes to software. I can't believe I'm just assuming I'll get another ATI card when I build a new PC soon. I guess there's not any alternative as versatile. After you go through the 5-ring circus to get the goddamn thing to work, that is. |
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Here's my two cents worth, for what it's worth.
Two motherboards one ATI card. Lock ups on one motherboard during gaming, Lock ups and bsod during boot up and gaming on the second motherboard. Frustration, anguish and then......... GeForce 5500. Popped it in, no new driver download needed, impeccable performance. Lesson learned. BB |
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On 12 Apr 2005 08:56:10 -0700, "BlackBird"
wrote: Here's my two cents worth, for what it's worth. Two motherboards one ATI card. Lock ups on one motherboard during gaming, Lock ups and bsod during boot up and gaming on the second motherboard. Frustration, anguish and then......... GeForce 5500. Popped it in, no new driver download needed, impeccable performance. Lesson learned. BB that's right. don't run ati cards on nvidia drivers. dr ratt |
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BlackBird wrote:
Here's my two cents worth, for what it's worth. Two motherboards one ATI card. Lock ups on one motherboard during gaming, Lock ups and bsod during boot up and gaming on the second motherboard. Frustration, anguish and then......... GeForce 5500. Popped it in, no new driver download needed, impeccable performance. Lesson learned. Well, if nVidia had a card with built-in tuner, that might be an option. I have no problem with the card and driver. I have a problem with the crappy tuner software. --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0515-1, 04/12/2005 Tested on: 4/12/2005 12:56:07 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com |
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Matt Ion wrote:
BlackBird wrote: Here's my two cents worth, for what it's worth. Two motherboards one ATI card. Lock ups on one motherboard during gaming, Lock ups and bsod during boot up and gaming on the second motherboard. Frustration, anguish and then......... GeForce 5500. Popped it in, no new driver download needed, impeccable performance. Lesson learned. Well, if nVidia had a card with built-in tuner, that might be an option. Look up "nvidia personal cinema". Currently the fastest boards available seem to be 5700s though. I have no problem with the card and driver. I have a problem with the crappy tuner software. --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0515-1, 04/12/2005 Tested on: 4/12/2005 12:56:07 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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Are you really tight on space, such that using a separate TV tuner card
(e.g. LeadTek WinfastTV or ATi TV Wonder) is not an option? -- "War is the continuation of politics by other means. It can therefore be said that politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed." "Matt Ion" wrote in message news:ChI6e.969507$8l.304128@pd7tw1no... System info: WinXP Pro/SP2, AIW 9800 Pro So I upgrade MMC to 9.06.1 and first time I try to run the TV tuner, the machine reboots. So I upgrade to the latest Catalyst driver. Now I'm getting a "Cannot initialize video" problem. So I reinstall the MMC update... Now it works... the first time I run the tuner. Works great, channel change is fast and smooth. Close it, and it gets a "Cannot initialize..." message every time until I reboot. Trying to playback a recorded .VCR file results in a crash of MMC... Can't these bozos get anything right? --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0515-0, 04/11/2005 Tested on: 4/11/2005 9:38:54 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com |
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First of One wrote:
Are you really tight on space, such that using a separate TV tuner card (e.g. LeadTek WinfastTV or ATi TV Wonder) is not an option? No... but I've used those before (even an ATI TV Wonder), and I find that technology-wise, having the tuner built into the video card is all around just more efficient and seems to work better. My problem has nothing to do with whether it's a combined card or not, and everything to do with crappy software development. And just to add to the rant: who's stupid decision was it to move the audio feed from a separate analog line to a straight digital feed... or at least to not give us the option? With this, one loses an amount of control over TV sound vs. system and other WAV sounds, and I'm finding all sorts of sync and dropout problems I never had before. Nice going, ATI. --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0515-6, 04/17/2005 Tested on: 4/17/2005 11:44:26 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com |
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Every driver/app release after Cat4.09, MMC9.02 causes my PC to crash
frequently (on average, once an hour) when running the TV. (I recently tried Cat5.04, MMC9.06.1, with the same result.) But with Cat4.09, MMC9.02, my PC never crashes. (I always uninstall all ATI software before installing new versions. I've tried reformatting my disk and reinstalling everything, but the result is the same.) I'm hoping someday ATI might fix whatever the problem is, so I can avail myself of the later releases. (I have never succeeded in getting a response from ATI tech support, other than useless automated emails. Phoning them is an international toll call that puts me on hold indefinitely.) I don't understand why they're allowed to advertise their products as Windows-compatible. I'd have thought frequent crashing is an incompatibility. ATI All-in-Wonder 9800 Pro 128MB, P4 2.8GHz, Intel D865GBX, 1GB PC3200 DDR-SDRAM, XP Pro SP2 (all updates installed). "Matt Ion" wrote in message news:z8y8e.1047227$Xk.221611@pd7tw3no... First of One wrote: Are you really tight on space, such that using a separate TV tuner card (e.g. LeadTek WinfastTV or ATi TV Wonder) is not an option? No... but I've used those before (even an ATI TV Wonder), and I find that technology-wise, having the tuner built into the video card is all around just more efficient and seems to work better. My problem has nothing to do with whether it's a combined card or not, and everything to do with crappy software development. And just to add to the rant: who's stupid decision was it to move the audio feed from a separate analog line to a straight digital feed... or at least to not give us the option? With this, one loses an amount of control over TV sound vs. system and other WAV sounds, and I'm finding all sorts of sync and dropout problems I never had before. Nice going, ATI. --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0515-6, 04/17/2005 Tested on: 4/17/2005 11:44:26 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com |
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"Gary Drescher" wrote:
Every driver/app release after Cat4.09, MMC9.02 causes my PC to crash frequently (on average, once an hour) when running the TV. (I recently tried Cat5.04, MMC9.06.1, with the same result.) But with Cat4.09, MMC9.02, my PC never crashes. (I always uninstall all ATI software before installing new versions. I've tried reformatting my disk and reinstalling everything, but the result is the same.) Have you tried changing the bios settings ? I have had similar difficulties with a variety of mobos but have always eventually found a bios set up that worked. Dennis |
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