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Old November 15th 03, 05:47 PM
Jenny
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Default Rebate class action suite

I waited 8 weeks for a $100 rebate check. I called, they said to wait
another month and call again. On Nov. 10th, I made that call and they
said they would send another check in two weeks but in the meantime
if check #351 came, not to cash it because it had been canceled.

Sure enough, 4 days later, that check #351 arrives in new envelope obviously
just mailed. They mailed that check obviously knowing that it was
not a good check.

If anyone else has had similar rebate problems, please post here as
I am looking for an attorney to handle a class action suite against Dell.

Thanks,
Just mad enough to do!!!


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Old November 15th 03, 06:34 PM
MB
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First of all, is this a new suite issued by microsoft?? Try SUIT.

Second, are others not receiving their rebates? I got mine in about 5 weeks.
Unless there really are MANY folks getting nothing back, I doubt if you have
a class action suit.

Assuming there is no class action suit, then you are on your own. No
attorney would waste his/her time on this -- it would cost many times your
damages ($100.). However, you might consider small claims court. I think you
can file locally, since Dell does business in your State. But I think you
should probably still make an effort to work with Dell on this first. Call
them and tell them you got that check and also see what is the latest going
on with your rebate.

Just my opinion -- I'm not an attorney!

Mel


"Jenny" wrote in message
...
I waited 8 weeks for a $100 rebate check. I called, they said to wait
another month and call again. On Nov. 10th, I made that call and they
said they would send another check in two weeks but in the meantime
if check #351 came, not to cash it because it had been canceled.

Sure enough, 4 days later, that check #351 arrives in new envelope

obviously
just mailed. They mailed that check obviously knowing that it was
not a good check.

If anyone else has had similar rebate problems, please post here as
I am looking for an attorney to handle a class action suite against Dell.

Thanks,
Just mad enough to do!!!




  #3  
Old November 15th 03, 06:48 PM
David H. Lipman
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Jenny:

I agree with the reply of MB.

Your recourse is to contact your state's Attorney General.

Dave



"Jenny" wrote in message
...
| I waited 8 weeks for a $100 rebate check. I called, they said to wait
| another month and call again. On Nov. 10th, I made that call and they
| said they would send another check in two weeks but in the meantime
| if check #351 came, not to cash it because it had been canceled.
|
| Sure enough, 4 days later, that check #351 arrives in new envelope obviously
| just mailed. They mailed that check obviously knowing that it was
| not a good check.
|
| If anyone else has had similar rebate problems, please post here as
| I am looking for an attorney to handle a class action suite against Dell.
|
| Thanks,
| Just mad enough to do!!!
|
|


  #4  
Old November 15th 03, 07:34 PM
joe_tide
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It was probably in a new envelope and just mailed because it took that long
to process it. I waited right around 8 weeks to get my rebate. I doubt they
could process it and get it too you in 4 days.

Dell has a site where you can go to check on the status of your rebate too.

Patience.

"Jenny" wrote in message
...
I waited 8 weeks for a $100 rebate check. I called, they said to wait
another month and call again. On Nov. 10th, I made that call and they
said they would send another check in two weeks but in the meantime
if check #351 came, not to cash it because it had been canceled.

Sure enough, 4 days later, that check #351 arrives in new envelope

obviously
just mailed. They mailed that check obviously knowing that it was
not a good check.

If anyone else has had similar rebate problems, please post here as
I am looking for an attorney to handle a class action suite against Dell.

Thanks,
Just mad enough to do!!!




  #5  
Old November 15th 03, 08:41 PM
James Nipper
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It has been well-established here and in many other forums that rebate
schemes are inherently scams. There is NO logical justification for a
rebate scheme.


IF a seller wants to sell a product at a lower price, the seller will
charge you the lower price at the check out counter. IF he requires you
to jump through silly hoops to get your "discount", then he is truly hoping
that you won't jump the hoops and the price remains the regular price.

Rebate schemes are a scam, short and simple.


--James--



  #6  
Old November 15th 03, 09:02 PM
Jupiter Jones
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James;
Your assumption is not really correct.
Rebates are often a good way to get items cheap or free.
The $ amount I have saved with rebates is significant.
That even takes into account the best price available without a
rebate.
The most significant for me was a scanner and digital camera virtually
free except for the cost of postage and a month loan of my $.
Overall rebates work great IF you follow all the rules.
The rules I have seen are all simple and require only a few minutes on
each.
I lost 5$ once a few years ago to a rebate...I forgot to mail it in.
Even with the $5 loss, the benefits far outweigh the negative...if you
follow through.

However rebates seem like a scam to those few that get a bad
experience and also to those that feel they deserve something without
the need to follow the rules.
If someone does not like a rebate, the answer is simple...walk away
and let those of us that save significant $ keep saving our money.
Rebates are not a scam, and it has not been established they are
except by those few that fit the two groups mentioned above...which
are you?

--
Jupiter Jones
Check the following link for some great problem solving newsgroups.
http://support.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.aspx
http://dts-l.org/index.html


"James Nipper" wrote in message
...
It has been well-established here and in many other forums that

rebate
schemes are inherently scams. There is NO logical justification

for a
rebate scheme.


IF a seller wants to sell a product at a lower price, the seller

will
charge you the lower price at the check out counter. IF he

requires you
to jump through silly hoops to get your "discount", then he is truly

hoping
that you won't jump the hoops and the price remains the regular

price.

Rebate schemes are a scam, short and simple.


--James--



  #7  
Old November 15th 03, 09:08 PM
James Nipper
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It is totally and completely dishonest. Any rational-thinking person MUST
agree that IF a seller WANTED to give you a lower price, they would
do it at the COUNTER!!!


There is simply and clearly no logical way to fudge around this truism. You
can stretch logic all day long and give a thousand examples of people who
**have** received rebates, but there is no economic or business
justification for a rebate system. The scheme is set up and designed to
help the Vendors, not the Buyers.

Think about it-- If a certain Vendor wants to give you the feeling of a
real **discount** and a **special** deal, he would appoint the retailer
(such as CompUSA) as his agent to immediately give you the rebate on the
spot. After all, you just paid for the product, you are standing there with
your receipt, and you have the rebate coupon. Why send all of that
paperwork to a third-party company with whom you have had NO contact to
process, where the very incentive is for them to DISALLOW as many rebates
as possible ??


Some " immediate rebates" do exist, but they are far and few in
between.

How can some of you brialliant guys be such wizards at pc stuff (and I
honestly know you run circles around me), and not see this simple logic?

No personal flames here please, we ain't talking about our love life.


--James--

------------------------------------------------------------------------


James;
Your assumption is not really correct.
Rebates are often a good way to get items cheap or free.
The $ amount I have saved with rebates is significant.
That even takes into account the best price available without a
rebate.
The most significant for me was a scanner and digital camera virtually
free except for the cost of postage and a month loan of my $.
Overall rebates work great IF you follow all the rules.
The rules I have seen are all simple and require only a few minutes on
each.
I lost 5$ once a few years ago to a rebate...I forgot to mail it in.
Even with the $5 loss, the benefits far outweigh the negative...if you
follow through.

However rebates seem like a scam to those few that get a bad
experience and also to those that feel they deserve something without
the need to follow the rules.
If someone does not like a rebate, the answer is simple...walk away
and let those of us that save significant $ keep saving our money.
Rebates are not a scam, and it has not been established they are
except by those few that fit the two groups mentioned above...which
are you?

--
Jupiter Jones

  #8  
Old November 15th 03, 09:35 PM
David H. Lipman
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James:

I agree with you. Intuit is well known for rejecting or ignoring rebate claims. One also
has to realize that one pays with the loss of privacy. There is always a third party, a
contractor, who process the rebate claims. They now have personal information about you to
be used in future marketing schemes. To be additionally safe one *must* include a
disclaimer with the rebate claim indicating one's right of privacy and that the personal
information contained within the request can not be used for marketing purposes or be
provided to third parties not directly evolved with the rebate process.

This is not unlike those warranty cards gets you are asked to fill out. According to the
FTC, a warranty is in effect the moment the product is purchased and is not predicated upon
filling out a form and sending it back to the manufacturer or vendor. The rebates and
warranty cards are both schemes for gathering personal information and nothing more.

Dave



"James Nipper" wrote in message
...
|
| It is totally and completely dishonest. Any rational-thinking person MUST
| agree that IF a seller WANTED to give you a lower price, they would
| do it at the COUNTER!!!
|
|
| There is simply and clearly no logical way to fudge around this truism. You
| can stretch logic all day long and give a thousand examples of people who
| **have** received rebates, but there is no economic or business
| justification for a rebate system. The scheme is set up and designed to
| help the Vendors, not the Buyers.
|
| Think about it-- If a certain Vendor wants to give you the feeling of a
| real **discount** and a **special** deal, he would appoint the retailer
| (such as CompUSA) as his agent to immediately give you the rebate on the
| spot. After all, you just paid for the product, you are standing there with
| your receipt, and you have the rebate coupon. Why send all of that
| paperwork to a third-party company with whom you have had NO contact to
| process, where the very incentive is for them to DISALLOW as many rebates
| as possible ??
|
|
| Some " immediate rebates" do exist, but they are far and few in
| between.
|
| How can some of you brialliant guys be such wizards at pc stuff (and I
| honestly know you run circles around me), and not see this simple logic?
|
| No personal flames here please, we ain't talking about our love life.
|
|
| --James--
|
| ------------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|
| James;
| Your assumption is not really correct.
| Rebates are often a good way to get items cheap or free.
| The $ amount I have saved with rebates is significant.
| That even takes into account the best price available without a
| rebate.
| The most significant for me was a scanner and digital camera virtually
| free except for the cost of postage and a month loan of my $.
| Overall rebates work great IF you follow all the rules.
| The rules I have seen are all simple and require only a few minutes on
| each.
| I lost 5$ once a few years ago to a rebate...I forgot to mail it in.
| Even with the $5 loss, the benefits far outweigh the negative...if you
| follow through.
|
| However rebates seem like a scam to those few that get a bad
| experience and also to those that feel they deserve something without
| the need to follow the rules.
| If someone does not like a rebate, the answer is simple...walk away
| and let those of us that save significant $ keep saving our money.
| Rebates are not a scam, and it has not been established they are
| except by those few that fit the two groups mentioned above...which
| are you?
|
| --
| Jupiter Jones
|


  #9  
Old November 15th 03, 10:59 PM
HillBillyBuddhist
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"James Nipper" wrote in message
...
It has been well-established here and in many other forums that rebate
schemes are inherently scams. There is NO logical justification for a
rebate scheme.


IF a seller wants to sell a product at a lower price, the seller will
charge you the lower price at the check out counter. IF he requires you
to jump through silly hoops to get your "discount", then he is truly

hoping
that you won't jump the hoops and the price remains the regular price.

Rebate schemes are a scam, short and simple.


--James--


There is a very sound business logic behind rebates.

The idea behind managing cash is simple, speed it up coming in, slow it down
going out.

You know how sometimes people write a check to somebody when they haven't
got any money in their checking account, then rush to the bank the next
morning to put some money in before the check clears? Same idea.

You can call it a "scheme" but it is s.o.p. in business.

I don't deny that they factor in a percentage of rebates that will never be
paid because of improper or untimely requests and those checks that will not
be cashed before they expire or those that will be mishandled due to human
error. With the exception of mishandled claims these are all on the head of
the consumer, who mind you was never forced to buy based on after rebate
prices.

I don't consider it a scam because I am a willing participant and I have
never NOT gotten a rebate. (I shop rebate deals at CompUSA, Office Max,
Staples et. al.. almost weekly for "office consumables" and have purchased
computer systems with rebates) I have no problem with a few "hoops" if it
saves me some money. I suppose if you've been denied a properly requested
rebate you could view them as scams. You could equally say that in any
program that handles thousands (sometimes millions) of paper claims by hand
some people are going to get the short end of the stick.


--
D

I'm not an MVP a VIP nor do I have ESP.
I was just trying to help.
Please use your own best judgment before implementing any suggestions or
advice herein.
No warranty is expressed or implied.
Your mileage may vary.
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  #10  
Old November 15th 03, 11:30 PM
James Nipper
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HillBilly Buddhist, your message demonstrates beyond debate that the rebate
scam is a scam.

A scam is a scam is a scam...........

Now, I am glad that we have settled this debate..........

Thanks Guys !!

--James--

-------------------------------

HillBilly Buddhist wrote:

The idea behind managing cash is simple, speed it up coming in, slow it down
going out.

You know how sometimes people write a check to somebody when they haven't
got any money in their checking account, then rush to the bank the next
morning to put some money in before the check clears? Same idea.

You can call it a "scheme" but it is s.o.p. in business.

I don't deny that they factor in a percentage of rebates that will never be
paid because of improper or untimely requests and those checks that will not
be cashed before they expire or those that will be mishandled due to human
error. With the exception of mishandled claims these are all on the head of
the consumer, who mind you was never forced to buy based on after rebate
prices.

I don't consider it a scam because I am a willing participant and I have
never NOT gotten a rebate. (I shop rebate deals at CompUSA, Office Max,
Staples et. al.. almost weekly for "office consumables" and have purchased
computer systems with rebates) I have no problem with a few "hoops" if it
saves me some money. I suppose if you've been denied a properly requested
rebate you could view them as scams. You could equally say that in any
program that handles thousands (sometimes millions) of paper claims by hand
some people are going to get the short end of the stick.




 




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