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need AGP video card recommendation for older system - pleasehelp
Adam wrote:
Okay, let me see if I can get someone to do a similar soldering solution. If not, it may be better to swap out this AGP video card. The video defects are definitely coming from this AGP video card, which now has a heatsink part attached (since the fan failed). The video defects disappear when another PCI video card is swapped in. If you already had a fan failure on the video card (the fan was not spinning for some period of time), the GPU could already have overheated. Fitting another fan or cooler, if the abusive situation lasted long enough, isn't going to fix it. The chip could be damaged. Paul |
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need AGP video card recommendation for older system - please help
"Paul" wrote in message ... Adam wrote: Okay, let me see if I can get someone to do a similar soldering solution. If not, it may be better to swap out this AGP video card. The video defects are definitely coming from this AGP video card, which now has a heatsink part attached (since the fan failed). The video defects disappear when another PCI video card is swapped in. If you already had a fan failure on the video card (the fan was not spinning for some period of time), the GPU could already have overheated. Fitting another fan or cooler, if the abusive situation lasted long enough, isn't going to fix it. The chip could be damaged. Paul If fan failures are still common these days, what's the best preventative measure to take with new video cards? Keep the case open and aim an external fan at the video card? I ask because I'm about to put together a new build and I don't want fan failure to damage another video card. |
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need AGP video card recommendation for older system - pleasehelp
Adam wrote:
"Paul" wrote in message ... Adam wrote: Okay, let me see if I can get someone to do a similar soldering solution. If not, it may be better to swap out this AGP video card. The video defects are definitely coming from this AGP video card, which now has a heatsink part attached (since the fan failed). The video defects disappear when another PCI video card is swapped in. If you already had a fan failure on the video card (the fan was not spinning for some period of time), the GPU could already have overheated. Fitting another fan or cooler, if the abusive situation lasted long enough, isn't going to fix it. The chip could be damaged. Paul If fan failures are still common these days, what's the best preventative measure to take with new video cards? Keep the case open and aim an external fan at the video card? I ask because I'm about to put together a new build and I don't want fan failure to damage another video card. I've done that. But not out of fear the fan would pack up. Sometimes I fit a fan in that area, just so a "cloud of hot air" doesn't collect around the video card. If you want to do your own cooling, you can buy "passive" cooled cards. They have a large heatpipe based cooler. You can mount an 80mm fan next to the passive cooler, and cool the card that way. You can also buy after-market passive coolers, and replace a fan based cooler. But that's more work, and has an element of risk to it (if you're a butterfingers). http://www.arctic.ac/en/p/cooling/vga.html This is an example of a fanless AGP, but it's not a strong card, and not gamer material. When I bought two cards of this nature, one was stable without using a fan, while the other card wasn't happy unless the 80mm fan was located next to it. This card is cheap, low power, and the cooler doesn't even use a heatpipe. It's a plain extruded aluminum cooler. http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/14-130-452-S01?$S640W$ This is an example of a PCI Express with a passive cooler. At least this one, doesn't have too much trim to get in the way of the cooling air from your 80mm fan. http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/14-131-475-Z03?$S640W$ When I locate the 80mm fan, it is suspended from the computer case. I don't "bolt the fan to the video card", because depending on the weight, it might make the card bend downwards a bit when the computer tower case is upright. I make a mechanical solution, using the screw heads on the PCI slots for support. And the fan bolts to the arm I make out of aluminum angle iron. Paul |
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need AGP video card recommendation for older system - please help
"Paul" wrote in message ... Adam wrote: "Paul" wrote in message ... Adam wrote: Okay, let me see if I can get someone to do a similar soldering solution. If not, it may be better to swap out this AGP video card. The video defects are definitely coming from this AGP video card, which now has a heatsink part attached (since the fan failed). The video defects disappear when another PCI video card is swapped in. If you already had a fan failure on the video card (the fan was not spinning for some period of time), the GPU could already have overheated. Fitting another fan or cooler, if the abusive situation lasted long enough, isn't going to fix it. The chip could be damaged. Paul If fan failures are still common these days, what's the best preventative measure to take with new video cards? Keep the case open and aim an external fan at the video card? I ask because I'm about to put together a new build and I don't want fan failure to damage another video card. I've done that. But not out of fear the fan would pack up. Sometimes I fit a fan in that area, just so a "cloud of hot air" doesn't collect around the video card. If you want to do your own cooling, you can buy "passive" cooled cards. They have a large heatpipe based cooler. You can mount an 80mm fan next to the passive cooler, and cool the card that way. You can also buy after-market passive coolers, and replace a fan based cooler. But that's more work, and has an element of risk to it (if you're a butterfingers). http://www.arctic.ac/en/p/cooling/vga.html This is an example of a fanless AGP, but it's not a strong card, and not gamer material. When I bought two cards of this nature, one was stable without using a fan, while the other card wasn't happy unless the 80mm fan was located next to it. This card is cheap, low power, and the cooler doesn't even use a heatpipe. It's a plain extruded aluminum cooler. http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/14-130-452-S01?$S640W$ This is an example of a PCI Express with a passive cooler. At least this one, doesn't have too much trim to get in the way of the cooling air from your 80mm fan. http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/14-131-475-Z03?$S640W$ When I locate the 80mm fan, it is suspended from the computer case. I don't "bolt the fan to the video card", because depending on the weight, it might make the card bend downwards a bit when the computer tower case is upright. I make a mechanical solution, using the screw heads on the PCI slots for support. And the fan bolts to the arm I make out of aluminum angle iron. Paul For Sapphire AMD Radeon HD 6850, one of the Accelero Twin Turbo models will probably suffice. Not sure why the Accelero Twin Turbo PRO has better reviews even though cooling capacity is lower. http://www.arctic.ac/p/shopware.php/...rch=twin+turbo |
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need AGP video card recommendation for older system - pleasehelp
On 10/20/2012 07:48 AM, Paul wrote:
Adam wrote: Looking for a quality but cheap AGP video card (off eBay) to replace ... - ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB DDR 256Bit AGP Video Card This is for an old Asus A7V133 system. Any recommendations? Since it's Ebay, you could go for a 7600 GT AGP. On Ebay there are also several 7950GT cards which are nice as well, that may be an option too. Good luck! Greetings, Rene |
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need AGP video card recommendation for older system - pleasehelp
Adam wrote:
For Sapphire AMD Radeon HD 6850, one of the Accelero Twin Turbo models will probably suffice. Not sure why the Accelero Twin Turbo PRO has better reviews even though cooling capacity is lower. http://www.arctic.ac/p/shopware.php/...rch=twin+turbo You can try Newegg for more reviews. (feedback tab) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835186046 Paul |
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need AGP video card recommendation for older system - please help
"Rene" wrote in message ... On 10/20/2012 07:48 AM, Paul wrote: Adam wrote: Looking for a quality but cheap AGP video card (off eBay) to replace ... - ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB DDR 256Bit AGP Video Card This is for an old Asus A7V133 system. Any recommendations? Since it's Ebay, you could go for a 7600 GT AGP. On Ebay there are also several 7950 GT cards which are nice as well, that may be an option too. Good luck! Greetings, Rene Thanks (Rene), will keep that in mind. |
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need AGP video card recommendation for older system - please help
"Paul" wrote in message ... Adam wrote: For Sapphire AMD Radeon HD 6850, one of the Accelero Twin Turbo models will probably suffice. Not sure why the Accelero Twin Turbo PRO has better reviews even though cooling capacity is lower. http://www.arctic.ac/p/shopware.php/...rch=twin+turbo You can try Newegg for more reviews. (feedback tab) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835186046 Paul Thanks (Guru Paul), I saw an image of the stock cooler on my 6850 video card, which should be good enough initially. Also saw some interesting temperature comparisons. Will have to wait until after installation. Only problem is ... I can't decide on which mobo/CPU to get, which is holding up the show. |
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need AGP video card recommendation for older system - please help
Adam wrote: "Rene" wrote in message ... On 10/20/2012 07:48 AM, Paul wrote: Adam wrote: Looking for a quality but cheap AGP video card (off eBay) to replace ... - ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB DDR 256Bit AGP Video Card This is for an old Asus A7V133 system. Any recommendations? Since it's Ebay, you could go for a 7600 GT AGP. On Ebay there are also several 7950 GT cards which are nice as well, that may be an option too. Good luck! Greetings, Rene Thanks (Rene), will keep that in mind. What OS are you running? Buffalo |
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need AGP video card recommendation for older system - please help
"Buffalo" wrote in message ... Adam wrote: "Rene" wrote in message ... On 10/20/2012 07:48 AM, Paul wrote: Adam wrote: Looking for a quality but cheap AGP video card (off eBay) to replace ... - ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB DDR 256Bit AGP Video Card This is for an old Asus A7V133 system. Any recommendations? Since it's Ebay, you could go for a 7600 GT AGP. On Ebay there are also several 7950 GT cards which are nice as well, that may be an option too. Good luck! Greetings, Rene Thanks (Rene), will keep that in mind. What OS are you running? Buffalo Host OS: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Guest OS: Windows XP Pro SP3 Why? |
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