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On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 23:11:02 +0000, Don Moody
wrote: Unfortunately, there simply is no history and almost no pride in supply of computer products and services. It's a box-shifting business with no long term horizon. It is not mature. It hasn't yet separated into the cheap price and no value trash versus the slightly more expensive price and full value service streams. It has to a certain degree round here although one dealer seems to live on no value trash with full value service at an expensive price. Look at the usual postings in ucv, so many are after the cheapest price then whinges when they have a paddy when the service is poor. Everyone wants service but doesn't want to pay. It can't mature until the customers realise that they need good service and will start to pay the extra 5% or 10% to get a better service. I wish the suppliers would read what John Ruskin had to say 150 years ago about good business deals. His law of business is that if you pay too little you wind up with nothing because what you buy will not do what you bought it for. Yep, also loko at the Terry Pratchett books about upper classes and poverty. They always seem broke becuase they have old furniture. They have old furniture becuase they paid a lot more in the first place and it lasted for much longer. Cheap in the long run but more expensive up front. Whereas if you pay a little more for something that does do what you want, you have value for your money. It requires a customer educated to pay enough, and a supplier educated to deliver enough. So I'm not bothered about people who say they are leaving Demon because they can buy something cheaper (and inevitably nastier) elsewhere. I am bothered when Demon doesn't deliver value it could so easily deliver. Don |
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In article , Bagpuss
writes Cheap in the long run but more expensive up front. I heard a nice quote recently from someone's ancestor - "We're not so rich that we can buy cheap" -- Les Desser (The Reply-to address IS correct - hope Swen ignores it)) |
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"Anthony W. Youngman" wrote in
: Okay, I get well ****ed off with people who say "the Queen's English" is correct and everything else is wrong (after all, "the Queen's English" is one of the *newest* dialects in use), but having spent some time on the phone (I'm a southerner) to a customer service guy located in (I presume) Scotland, I had a hard time trying to understand the accent. But at least we shared a native language. Wot's that, then? Gaelic? -- Want SPEWS-filtered and SBL-filtered email? http://www.spamblocked.com/index.html "Mammals are far more intellectually advanced than most people think. A gopher gave me the finger once." - Cynthia of Syracuse |
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In article , Tony Bryer
writes In article 47, Morely Dotes wrote: Bull****. The stuff coming through the Post is delivered at the *senders'* expense. And all those AOL etc CD's and the junk mail that people don't put in the recycling bins (only 17.5% of waste in LB Richmond is recycled and we are reputedly better than most) gets taken away at the recipients expense - in our case ending up in landfill in Bedfordshire (disposal cost about £20/ton IIRC). The argument that junk snail mail is OK because it costs the recipients nothing is fallacious. You are better than most. The average is about 12-13%. And where I live (LB Bexley), we're really ****ed off because our figure is about 25%, and six other LBs - ALL of whom are below the average - want to build an incinerator in OUR patch to burn THEIR rubbish :-( Cheers, Wol -- Anthony W. Youngman - wol at thewolery dot demon dot co dot uk Witches are curious by definition and inquisitive by nature. She moved in. "Let me through. I'm a nosey person.", she said, employing both elbows. Maskerade : (c) 1995 Terry Pratchett |
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Hammond Organ wrote:
In article , Brian {Hamilton Kelly} writes [1] I suppose I ought not to be surprised, since A+L took over that wondrous invention of Anthony Wedgwood-Benn, the National Giro, and the latter was based in Liverpool. s/Liverpool/Bootle/ Bootle is *in* Liverpool. Have you ever been there, Mr. Organ? -- Jack. |
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In article , Jack
writes Hammond Organ wrote: In article , Brian {Hamilton Kelly} writes [1] I suppose I ought not to be surprised, since A+L took over that wondrous invention of Anthony Wedgwood-Benn, the National Giro, and the latter was based in Liverpool. s/Liverpool/Bootle/ Bootle is *in* Liverpool. Have you ever been there, Mr. Organ? Actually, yes - and the Scousers I know would view Bootle [together with Maghull/Kirkby/Huyton and suchlike] as _not_ part of Liverpool proper. Dammit, you'll be suggesting _Everton_ is part of Liverpool next. [exit right not wishing to incite football-related genocide] |
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Hammond Organ wrote:
In article , Jack writes Hammond Organ wrote: In article , Brian {Hamilton Kelly} writes [1] I suppose I ought not to be surprised, since A+L took over that wondrous invention of Anthony Wedgwood-Benn, the National Giro, and the latter was based in Liverpool. s/Liverpool/Bootle/ Bootle is *in* Liverpool. Have you ever been there, Mr. Organ? Actually, yes - and the Scousers I know would view Bootle [together with Maghull/Kirkby/Huyton and suchlike] as _not_ part of Liverpool proper. Dammit, you'll be suggesting _Everton_ is part of Liverpool next. [exit right not wishing to incite football-related genocide] Where did I get the notion that there is nothing proper about Liverpool? (I don't think I have ever been there, so I have no first hand knowledge one way or another.) |
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Hammond Organ wrote:
Actually, yes - and the Scousers I know would view Bootle [together with Maghull/Kirkby/Huyton and suchlike] as _not_ part of Liverpool proper. "Kirkby"? Perhaps you were referring to "Kirby" (pron. "Kairbee") - where the grips come from. -- Jack. |
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Jack wrote in news:c0om2n$b3t$1$8300dec7
@news.demon.co.uk: "Kirby" (pron. "Kairbee") - Some people over --- there, and some people over --- there, pronounce "kairbee" in a different, and possibly suprising, way. You might want to have a look at ascii IPA. http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Evan_Kirshenbaum/IPA/english.html (Not sure what the IBM AS/400ers would do though...) |
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