Under Clocking & Over Volting to Burn In A New Processor

Hi,

I've just got me paws on an XP 1800+ (AXDA1800DLT3C blah JIUHB), bought
specifically for a big-time over clock, but I wanted to know if anyone has
had any experience of burning processors in by under clocking and over
volting?

Here is an interesting article
http://people.freenet.de/s.urfer/conditioning.htm but is it worth it?

I was thinking about clocking the CPU at 100MHz x 10 x 1.80V, using an Aero
7+ cooler for 24 hours or so, running Prime95, any comments?

Just trying to make things easy for the future.

"Mark Weatherill" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I've just got me paws on an XP 1800+ (AXDA1800DLT3C blah JIUHB), bought
specifically for a big-time over clock, but I wanted to know if anyone has
had any experience of burning processors in by under clocking and over
volting?

Here is an interesting article
http://people.freenet.de/s.urfer/conditioning.htm but is it worth it?

I was thinking about clocking the CPU at 100MHz x 10 x 1.80V, using an
Aero
7+ cooler for 24 hours or so, running Prime95, any comments?

Just trying to make things easy for the future.


I see no advantage to underclocking, and no need to overvolt until you
actually start overclocking. The standard procedure, time-tested and
logical, is to run a new cpu at default settings until you have run a full
set of baseline benchmarks and made sure it is running cool, stable and
error-free. OC in increments until it starts to flake, then add the minimum
voltage to get you over the hump.

I've seen engineers laugh at the concept of burning-in cpus, but my own
experience has been that a balky cpu will sometimes go a little higher after
it's been in the system for a while. However, I haven't seen any evidence
that subjecting a new cpu to higher voltage than necessary will "loosen up"
the chip to enable higher overclocks than would otherwise be possible.

In article ,
says...
Hi,

I've just got me paws on an XP 1800+ (AXDA1800DLT3C blah JIUHB), bought
specifically for a big-time over clock, but I wanted to know if anyone has
had any experience of burning processors in by under clocking and over
volting?

Here is an interesting article
http://people.freenet.de/s.urfer/conditioning.htm but is it worth it?

I was thinking about clocking the CPU at 100MHz x 10 x 1.80V, using an Aero
7+ cooler for 24 hours or so, running Prime95, any comments?

Just trying to make things easy for the future.

Whatever floats yer boat, never one to disagree with Big Badger & Skid,
but;

This has been a forever dbate down here in the USENET frat. I have
always thought, even from the early K5 releases that 'burning in' does
have a benefit, even though I have no scientific eveidence to support my
view.

Burning in is:
-extreme voltage -over- extended time -at- maximum load.

Heat in the CPU is generated by increased voltage & increased speed. To
keep the CPU at a reasonably safe temp you should run the CPU at an
extremely low speed, e,g, 9x100 and have the voltage as high as you can
safetly allow. This way the high temp from the overvolt is compensated
by the lower speed induced temp.

CPUBurn is a good tool for this and 24-48 hours at 1.8v on your XP 1800.
Generally the more voltage your components can cope with the higher the
stability of your system, I've always slightly overvolted since the days
of the K5 and I've never had a 'scatty' system. Of course this voltage
thingy is a 'wildcard' in the life of an O/C, but unless you intend to
keep the same CPU for more than 20 years I think it's ok!

The purpose of the 'burning in' is to:
-run your CPU at a faster speed with a higher [now] tolerable voltage
-run your CPU at the same speed with a lower voltage

BoroLad

You said it BoroLad...'whatever floats your boat'.....being a Boro boy
myself we really should stick together on this......
However here's a thought: .......If 'burn-in' really worked don't you think
AMD and Intel would have picked up on the idea by now to squeeze a few more
MHz out of there cpu's??



"BoroLad" wrote in message
lworld.com...
In article ,
says...
Hi,

I've just got me paws on an XP 1800+ (AXDA1800DLT3C blah JIUHB), bought
specifically for a big-time over clock, but I wanted to know if anyone
has
had any experience of burning processors in by under clocking and over
volting?

Here is an interesting article
http://people.freenet.de/s.urfer/conditioning.htm but is it worth it?

I was thinking about clocking the CPU at 100MHz x 10 x 1.80V, using an
Aero
7+ cooler for 24 hours or so, running Prime95, any comments?

Just trying to make things easy for the future.

Whatever floats yer boat, never one to disagree with Big Badger & Skid,
but;

This has been a forever dbate down here in the USENET frat. I have
always thought, even from the early K5 releases that 'burning in' does
have a benefit, even though I have no scientific eveidence to support my
view.

Burning in is:
-extreme voltage -over- extended time -at- maximum load.

Heat in the CPU is generated by increased voltage & increased speed. To
keep the CPU at a reasonably safe temp you should run the CPU at an
extremely low speed, e,g, 9x100 and have the voltage as high as you can
safetly allow. This way the high temp from the overvolt is compensated
by the lower speed induced temp.

CPUBurn is a good tool for this and 24-48 hours at 1.8v on your XP 1800.
Generally the more voltage your components can cope with the higher the
stability of your system, I've always slightly overvolted since the days
of the K5 and I've never had a 'scatty' system. Of course this voltage
thingy is a 'wildcard' in the life of an O/C, but unless you intend to
keep the same CPU for more than 20 years I think it's ok!

The purpose of the 'burning in' is to:
-run your CPU at a faster speed with a higher [now] tolerable voltage
-run your CPU at the same speed with a lower voltage

BoroLad

too time consuming

On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 23:09:54 +0100, "BigBadger"
wrote:

You said it BoroLad...'whatever floats your boat'.....being a Boro boy
myself we really should stick together on this......
However here's a thought: .......If 'burn-in' really worked don't you think
AMD and Intel would have picked up on the idea by now to squeeze a few more
MHz out of there cpu's??



"BoroLad" wrote in message
tlworld.com...
In article ,
says...
Hi,

I've just got me paws on an XP 1800+ (AXDA1800DLT3C blah JIUHB), bought
specifically for a big-time over clock, but I wanted to know if anyone
has
had any experience of burning processors in by under clocking and over
volting?

Here is an interesting article
http://people.freenet.de/s.urfer/conditioning.htm but is it worth it?

I was thinking about clocking the CPU at 100MHz x 10 x 1.80V, using an
Aero
7+ cooler for 24 hours or so, running Prime95, any comments?

Just trying to make things easy for the future.

Whatever floats yer boat, never one to disagree with Big Badger & Skid,
but;

This has been a forever dbate down here in the USENET frat. I have
always thought, even from the early K5 releases that 'burning in' does
have a benefit, even though I have no scientific eveidence to support my
view.

Burning in is:
-extreme voltage -over- extended time -at- maximum load.

Heat in the CPU is generated by increased voltage & increased speed. To
keep the CPU at a reasonably safe temp you should run the CPU at an
extremely low speed, e,g, 9x100 and have the voltage as high as you can
safetly allow. This way the high temp from the overvolt is compensated
by the lower speed induced temp.

CPUBurn is a good tool for this and 24-48 hours at 1.8v on your XP 1800.
Generally the more voltage your components can cope with the higher the
stability of your system, I've always slightly overvolted since the days
of the K5 and I've never had a 'scatty' system. Of course this voltage
thingy is a 'wildcard' in the life of an O/C, but unless you intend to
keep the same CPU for more than 20 years I think it's ok!

The purpose of the 'burning in' is to:
-run your CPU at a faster speed with a higher [now] tolerable voltage
-run your CPU at the same speed with a lower voltage

BoroLad

In article ,
says...
You said it BoroLad...'whatever floats your boat'.....being a Boro boy
myself we really should stick together on this......
However here's a thought: .......If 'burn-in' really worked don't you think
AMD and Intel would have picked up on the idea by now to squeeze a few more
MHz out of there cpu's??

I didly-no you was a 'gadge', a proper 'smoggie' bigbadger!

Congrats mate your a proper bloke unlike gary. I'm very fond of him, I
respect his technical input, but I don't want to be in the same rugby
team showers ..... as a bloke who likes sheep!

BoroLad

"BoroLad" wrote in message
lworld.com...
In article ,
says...
Hi,

I've just got me paws on an XP 1800+ (AXDA1800DLT3C blah JIUHB), bought
specifically for a big-time over clock, but I wanted to know if anyone
has
had any experience of burning processors in by under clocking and over
volting?

Here is an interesting article
http://people.freenet.de/s.urfer/conditioning.htm but is it worth it?

I was thinking about clocking the CPU at 100MHz x 10 x 1.80V, using an
Aero
7+ cooler for 24 hours or so, running Prime95, any comments?

Just trying to make things easy for the future.

Whatever floats yer boat, never one to disagree with Big Badger & Skid,
but;

This has been a forever dbate down here in the USENET frat. I have
always thought, even from the early K5 releases that 'burning in' does
have a benefit, even though I have no scientific eveidence to support my
view.

Burning in is:
-extreme voltage -over- extended time -at- maximum load.

Heat in the CPU is generated by increased voltage & increased speed. To
keep the CPU at a reasonably safe temp you should run the CPU at an
extremely low speed, e,g, 9x100 and have the voltage as high as you can
safetly allow. This way the high temp from the overvolt is compensated
by the lower speed induced temp.

CPUBurn is a good tool for this and 24-48 hours at 1.8v on your XP 1800.
Generally the more voltage your components can cope with the higher the
stability of your system, I've always slightly overvolted since the days
of the K5 and I've never had a 'scatty' system. Of course this voltage

Yeah, I'm a genuine 'Smog-Monster' born and bred.

"BoroLad" wrote in message
d.com...
In article ,
says...
You said it BoroLad...'whatever floats your boat'.....being a Boro boy
myself we really should stick together on this......
However here's a thought: .......If 'burn-in' really worked don't you
think
AMD and Intel would have picked up on the idea by now to squeeze a few
more
MHz out of there cpu's??

I didly-no you was a 'gadge', a proper 'smoggie' bigbadger!

Congrats mate your a proper bloke unlike gary. I'm very fond of him, I
respect his technical input, but I don't want to be in the same rugby
team showers ..... as a bloke who likes sheep!

BoroLad

"BoroLad" wrote in message
lworld.com...
In article ,
says...
Hi,

I've just got me paws on an XP 1800+ (AXDA1800DLT3C blah JIUHB),
bought
specifically for a big-time over clock, but I wanted to know if
anyone
has
had any experience of burning processors in by under clocking and
over
volting?

Here is an interesting article
http://people.freenet.de/s.urfer/conditioning.htm but is it worth
it?

I was thinking about clocking the CPU at 100MHz x 10 x 1.80V, using
an
Aero
7+ cooler for 24 hours or so, running Prime95, any comments?

Just trying to make things easy for the future.

Whatever floats yer boat, never one to disagree with Big Badger &
Skid,
but;

This has been a forever dbate down here in the USENET frat. I have
always thought, even from the early K5 releases that 'burning in' does
have a benefit, even though I have no scientific eveidence to support
my
view.

Burning in is:
-extreme voltage -over- extended time -at- maximum load.

Heat in the CPU is generated by increased voltage & increased speed.
To
keep the CPU at a reasonably safe temp you should run the CPU at an
extremely low speed, e,g, 9x100 and have the voltage as high as you
can
safetly allow. This way the high temp from the overvolt is compensated
by the lower speed induced temp.

CPUBurn is a good tool for this and 24-48 hours at 1.8v on your XP
1800.
Generally the more voltage your components can cope with the higher
the
stability of your system, I've always slightly overvolted since the
days
of the K5 and I've never had a 'scatty' system. Of course this voltage

Sorry Guy's, But the idea of burning in a uProc is the biggest load of S**T
i've ever heard.
The uProc is rated at production and it may be overclockable, but burning in
does nothing for it.
It only proves that the uProc can run at the rated speed etc.

Live and Dream Guy's.



"BigBadger" wrote in message
...
Yeah, I'm a genuine 'Smog-Monster' born and bred.

"BoroLad" wrote in message
d.com...
In article ,
says...
You said it BoroLad...'whatever floats your boat'.....being a Boro boy
myself we really should stick together on this......
However here's a thought: .......If 'burn-in' really worked don't you
think
AMD and Intel would have picked up on the idea by now to squeeze a few
more
MHz out of there cpu's??

I didly-no you was a 'gadge', a proper 'smoggie' bigbadger!

Congrats mate your a proper bloke unlike gary. I'm very fond of him, I
respect his technical input, but I don't want to be in the same rugby
team showers ..... as a bloke who likes sheep!

BoroLad

"BoroLad" wrote in message
lworld.com...
In article ,
says...
Hi,

I've just got me paws on an XP 1800+ (AXDA1800DLT3C blah JIUHB),
bought
specifically for a big-time over clock, but I wanted to know if
anyone
has
had any experience of burning processors in by under clocking and
over
volting?

Here is an interesting article
http://people.freenet.de/s.urfer/conditioning.htm but is it worth
it?

I was thinking about clocking the CPU at 100MHz x 10 x 1.80V,
using
an
Aero
7+ cooler for 24 hours or so, running Prime95, any comments?

Just trying to make things easy for the future.

Whatever floats yer boat, never one to disagree with Big Badger &
Skid,
but;

This has been a forever dbate down here in the USENET frat. I have
always thought, even from the early K5 releases that 'burning in'
does
have a benefit, even though I have no scientific eveidence to
support
my
view.

Burning in is:
-extreme voltage -over- extended time -at- maximum load.

Heat in the CPU is generated by increased voltage & increased speed.
To
keep the CPU at a reasonably safe temp you should run the CPU at an
extremely low speed, e,g, 9x100 and have the voltage as high as you
can
safetly allow. This way the high temp from the overvolt is
compensated
by the lower speed induced temp.

CPUBurn is a good tool for this and 24-48 hours at 1.8v on your XP
1800.
Generally the more voltage your components can cope with the higher
the
stability of your system, I've always slightly overvolted since the
days
of the K5 and I've never had a 'scatty' system. Of course this
voltage

"Ghostrider" wrote in
:

Sorry Guy's, But the idea of burning in a uProc is the biggest load of
S**T i've ever heard.
The uProc is rated at production and it may be overclockable, but
burning in does nothing for it.
It only proves that the uProc can run at the rated speed etc.

Live and Dream Guy's.


I'm amazed at the number of people who think designing and manufacturing
microelectronics is an exact science. This guy speaks like he is god and
has command of all physics leaving nothing to mystery.