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Old February 6th 04, 06:48 AM
Noik
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On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 20:57:19 -0800, Mike Richter
wrote:

5. Sanford says that the Sharpie is less safe than their own pens with
water-based inks.


Pointer?

But, then again, what would the manufacturer know about his product?


Manufacturers know a lot about marketing new products. Are you saying
that alcohol might be dangerous to lacquer (huh?), or that the
ink/dye/whatever in the alcohol based marker might be more dangerous
than the ink/dye/whatever in the water based marker?

[NOTE: There are discs with a durable overcoating which can survive
alcohols and for which the Sharpie is fine.


How do you know that the overcoating is less susceptible? How do you
know that the overcoating won't react with a Sharpie and ultimately
raise hell by creating stuff that affects the lacquer more than the
Sharpie by itself would have affected the lacquer?

I use a Sharpie on discs
prepared for ink-jet printing, for example, but for those without such
an overcoating, I use the TDK CD Writer or another pen with water-based
ink.


How do you know that that ink won't be worse than the ink in a
Sharpie?

N

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Old February 6th 04, 07:50 AM
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.. --------------------------------------
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
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(Mike Richter, any Material Connection w/ Roxio?)

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...mindspring.com
(Messages 10, 12 -- 34, 54 -- 69)

( No pipsqueaks have been able to prove ANY of the above is a libel )
( -- despite Mikey's supposed to have proof of misquotes! )


London Midland & Scotland wrote:
(jardinero) wrote:

For all of us concerned with the longevity of optical disks and the
effects of dust, fingerprints, labels, etc. on them, download an
excellent pdf file written on the subject.

Scientists working on the Digital Preservation Program at the National
Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) have released an
excellent 50 page guide ( http://tinyurl.com/2x43f ) on care and
handling of CDs and DVDs for long term storage.

It's 50 pages long, but your will find more information in it than
anything you have thought of concerning optical medium.

Maybe this file will put an end to so many myths concerning aging DVD,
CD, etc...


Please can some one post a Active URL on this..


Subject: [7-5] How long do CD-Rs and CD-RWs last?
http://www.cdrfaq.org/faq07.html#S7-5

http://www.itl.nist.gov/div895/carefordisc/disc_care/
http://www.cd-info.com/CDIC/Technolo...Longevity.html
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Old February 6th 04, 09:51 AM
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Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------
(Mike Richter, any Material Connection w/ Roxio?)

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...mindspring.com
(Messages 10, 12 -- 34, 54 -- 69)

( No pipsqueaks have been able to prove ANY of the above is a libel )
( -- despite Mikey's supposed to have proof of misquotes! )


Mike Richter (Friggin' Scum) wrote:

London Midland & Scotland wrote:

Please can some one post a Active URL on this..


TinyURL's have finite life. The link has been posted


Are www.cd-info.com and www.itl.nist.gov the same, Mikey?


at my WWW site for some months:

Standards Published on Permanence of Electronic Materials
http://www.cd-info.com/CDIC/Industry/news/ansi.html


Only for some months, not years, Mikey?

--------------------------------------
From old CD-R FAQ:

Subject: [7-5] How long do CD-Rs last?
(1998/10/16)

See also
http://www.cd-info.com/CDIC/Technolo...Longevity.html,
especially
http://www.cd-info.com/CDIC/Industry...hronology.html about
some inaccurate reporting in the news media.
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Old February 6th 04, 03:35 PM
Eric McG
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http://www.itl.nist.gov/div895/caref...dlingGuide.pdf

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Hope this helps..Reply in newsgroup only.
Eric McGillicudy

"London Midland & Scotland" wrote in message
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On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 20:59:48 -0800, Mike Richter wrote:

London Midland & Scotland wrote:

Please can some one post a Active URL on this..


TinyURL's have finite life. The link has been posted at my WWW site for
some months:

Standards Published on Permanence of Electronic Materials
http://www.cd-info.com/CDIC/Industry/news/ansi.html

Mike



But from what I can see this is not a Free Dnload and no direct link to

the
article at all.




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Old February 6th 04, 03:37 PM
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In article ,
London Midland & Scotland wrote:
[snip]

This what I get with that URL

Warning: mysql_pconnect(): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket
'/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (11) in /home/sites/site15/web/db_connect.php on
line 3

Fatal error: Call to undefined function: mysqlerror() in
/home/sites/site15/web/db_connect.php on line 3


Have a squiz at this link, might be the same/similar:

http://www.itl.nist.gov/div895/caref..._care/toc.html

Note: The "printable version" on the various pages only refers to the
current part, not to the whole doc. (The total thing adds up to about
246KB, but it's a bit of a pain to save/print in individual parts.)


Cheers, Phred.

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Old February 6th 04, 07:52 PM
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London Midland & Scotland wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 20:59:48 -0800, Mike Richter wrote:


London Midland & Scotland wrote:


Please can some one post a Active URL on this..


TinyURL's have finite life. The link has been posted at my WWW site for
some months:

Standards Published on Permanence of Electronic Materials
http://www.cd-info.com/CDIC/Industry/news/ansi.html


Sorry - grabbed the wrong one. The one you're after is the third on the
Files page:

http://www.itl.nist.gov/div895/caref...care/index.htm

You may find others there of value.

Mike
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http://www.mrichter.com/

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Old February 7th 04, 02:46 AM
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Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------
(Mike Richter, any Material Connection w/ Roxio?)

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...mindspring.com
(Messages 10, 12 -- 34, 54 -- 69)

( No pipsqueaks have been able to prove ANY of the above is a libel )
( -- despite Mikey's supposed to have proof of misquotes! )

======================
From: David Chien
Subject: PC Active Dutch Magazine - CD-R test report, anyone can post?
Date: 8/21/03

http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/7751

Anyone out there with a copy of this Dutch magazine article and can post
the results? (Not a lot of Dutch bookstores here in the US, if you know
what I mean.)

======================
From: "Pking"
Subject: Trouble study on cd's.
Date: 8/25/03
st.rr.com

http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/7751

======================
From: "Den"
Subject: How long does CD-R's last
Date: 9/1/03


Just seen this on the register;
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/32593.html

Is their any guidelines on the lifetime of CD-R's branded and unbranded.

======================
From: (Who Me?)
Subject: Some CDr brands degrade within months article
Date: 9/2/03
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...g.g oogle.com

Some CDr brands degrade within months article

http://theregister.co.uk/content/54/32593.html
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jardinero wrote:

Hey, people!

For all of us concerned with the longevity of optical disks and the
effects of dust, fingerprints, labels, etc. on them, download an
excellent pdf file written on the subject.

Scientists working on the Digital Preservation Program at the National
Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) have released an
excellent 50 page guide ( http://tinyurl.com/2x43f ) on care and
handling of CDs and DVDs for long term storage.

It's 50 pages long, but your will find more information in it than
anything you have thought of concerning optical medium.

Maybe this file will put an end to so many myths concerning aging DVD,
CD, etc...

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Old February 7th 04, 06:50 PM
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The link works for me.

"London Midland & Scotland" wrote in message
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On 5 Feb 2004 11:19:38 -0800, (jardinero) wrote:

Hey, people!


For all of us concerned with the longevity of optical disks and the
effects of dust, fingerprints, labels, etc. on them, download an
excellent pdf file written on the subject.

Scientists working on the Digital Preservation Program at the National
Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) have released an
excellent 50 page guide (
http://tinyurl.com/2x43f ) on care and
handling of CDs and DVDs for long term storage.



Is this a Valid URL Link as it does not seem to work.

http://tinyurl.com/2x43f


It's 50 pages long, but your will find more information in it than
anything you have thought of concerning optical medium.

Maybe this file will put an end to so many myths concerning aging DVD,
CD, etc...




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Old February 8th 04, 01:29 AM
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In article ,
says...
Hey, people!


For all of us concerned with the longevity of optical disks and the
effects of dust, fingerprints, labels, etc. on them, download an
excellent pdf file written on the subject.

Scientists working on the Digital Preservation Program at the National
Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) have released an
excellent 50 page guide (
http://tinyurl.com/2x43f ) on care and
handling of CDs and DVDs for long term storage.

It's 50 pages long, but your will find more information in it than
anything you have thought of concerning optical medium.

Maybe this file will put an end to so many myths concerning aging DVD,
CD, etc...


Posted on /. a week or two ago as well.

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=0...nested&tid=137
&tid=198

And it never hurts to add recovery data to the CD/DVD.
 




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