cd-rw burning

I have a drive that should support cd-rw. Why am I having so much trouble
burning to this media. I get recording errors. CD-rw that wont read.
Sometimes though I am lucky and it writes. I have no difficulty playing
audio cd's. I have no reason to believe that the drive or the software is
faulty (drive generally runs well, softwaqre appears to work well)

samsung burner abiut 3 yrs old
adaptec burning software

thanks

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RW media is really bad quality mostly, get some new stuff.


"Andy" wrote in message
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I have a drive that should support cd-rw. Why am I having so much trouble
burning to this media. I get recording errors. CD-rw that wont read.
Sometimes though I am lucky and it writes. I have no difficulty playing
audio cd's. I have no reason to believe that the drive or the software is
faulty (drive generally runs well, softwaqre appears to work well)

samsung burner abiut 3 yrs old
adaptec burning software

thanks

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Mike Richter wrote:
Andy wrote:
I have a drive that should support cd-rw. Why am I having so much trouble
burning to this media. I get recording errors. CD-rw that wont read.
Sometimes though I am lucky and it writes. I have no difficulty playing
audio cd's. I have no reason to believe that the drive or the software is
faulty (drive generally runs well, softwaqre appears to work well)

samsung burner abiut 3 yrs old
adaptec burning software

Most likely, you are using the wrong media. You do not have to reveal
the secret of what drive you have, but at three years old it may well
not even be High Speed, let alone Ultra Speed. Check the logo on the
faceplate. If it's UltraSpeed, it wants discs in similarly marked
packages - rated 16x and above. If it's High Speed, it wants discs in
similarly marked packages, rated 4x and above. If it has neither
marking, it needs discs without such marking on their packaging and
rated no higher than 4x.

Even when you match the type of disc, you are faced with the
unreliability and forgetfulness of erasable media, but they are usable
for testing. Most people who care about what they write use write-once
media, reserving erasables for test and for special needs (e.g., a DVD
player that won't read write-once).

Mike
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ok,

I think I should be using media that writes no faster than 4x.

But I still don't understand why cd-rw media is so problematic. Presumably
the scientis and engineers worked out the capabilities.

I gave the name of the burner in case it helped people reading the post.

All the best

Happy Christmas

Andy
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Mike Richter (Friggin' Scum) wrote:

Andy wrote:
I have a drive that should support cd-rw. Why am I having so much trouble
burning to this media. I get recording errors. CD-rw that wont read.

Most likely, you are using the wrong media.

Even when you match the type of disc, you are faced with the
unreliability and forgetfulness of erasable media, but they are usable
for testing. Most people who care about what they write use write-once
media, reserving erasables for test and for special needs

Like for backup, Mikey?

Once upon a time, the supposedly *inherently* flaky, fragile, forgetful,
unreliable CD-RW media was good enough for BACKUP -- even when combined
with the supposedly *inherently* flaky, fragile, faulty, unreliable
packet writing format!

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From: Mike Richter (Acraptec Shill)
Date: 9/1/99

You may back up ... to a DCD-formatted erasable.
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Mike Richter (Friggin' Scum) wrote:

Most likely, you are using the wrong media.

If it's UltraSpeed, it wants discs in similarly marked
packages - rated 16x and above. If it's High Speed, it wants discs in
similarly marked packages, rated 4x and above. If it has neither
marking, it needs discs without such marking on their packaging and
rated no higher than 4x.

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Mike Richter (Friggin' Scum) wrote (12/16/03):

Erasable media have proved unreliable. In addition if you have a
HighSpeed drive (rated above 4x), you should not use media rated for a
maximum of 4x of less; they are not HighSpeed. You may get apparently
good results, but the error rate is likely to be high and and
reliability will be low.

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From: Mitch
Subject: CD RW problem
Date: 11/30/03

Mike Richter (Friggin' Scum) wrote (11/26/03):

Mitch wrote:

If you have a Rewritable Drive
you can use 1x-4x CD-RW Media

If you have a High Speed Rewritable Drive
you can use 4x-12x CD-RW Media & 1x-4x CD-RW Media

If you have a Ultra Speed Rewritable Drive
you can use 8x-24x CD-RW Media, 4x-12x CD-RW Media & 1x-4x CD-RW Media

Yes and no. Your drive may or may not write to media of a lesser type
than specified, but the quality of the write is generally much less than
that for the specified type, which is often less than you'd want to
begin with. I did not say that it would not work, only that "you're
asking for trouble".

Double-check your data, though. There may be an UltraSpeed drive which
will write as slowly as 4x, but I don't know of it.

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Andy wrote:

I think I should be using media that writes no faster than 4x.

But I still don't understand why cd-rw media is so problematic. Presumably
the scientis and engineers worked out the capabilities.

I gave the name of the burner in case it helped people reading the post.

The brand name is all you supplied. Samsung has made many different
burners with varying capacity and capability.

The three types of erasable media use three different types of alloy.
They have different properties when melted and cooled, resulting in
different performance at various speeds. As a result, a writer is
designed to work best with one sort but not others.

While some newer writers can usually do a decent job with lower-rated
media, older writers are generally incapable of writing well to faster
ones even though both the writer and the blank are capable of being
written at 4x.

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Mike Richter (Friggin' Scum) wrote:

While some newer writers can usually do a decent job with lower-rated
media

What a friggin' ****!

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From: Mike Richter (Friggin' Scum)
Date: 4/3/03

Those with max speed of 4x and 2x should be reserved for
non-HighSpeed drives;

they will not work at all in UltraSpeed.

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From: Mike Richter (Friggin' ****)
Date: 11/26/03

There may be an UltraSpeed drive which will write
as slowly as 4x, but I don't know of it.

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On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:18:39 -0800, Mike Richter
wrote:

Check the logo on the
faceplate. If it's UltraSpeed, it wants discs in similarly marked
packages - rated 16x and above. If it's High Speed, it wants discs in
similarly marked packages, rated 4x and above. If it has neither
marking, it needs discs without such marking on their packaging and
rated no higher than 4x.


My TDK Cyclone 523252 have UltraSpeed logo but no problem burn Lead
Data 1~4x cd-rw disc.

On 24 Dec 2003 13:21:21 -0700, Andy
wrote:

I have a drive that should support cd-rw. Why am I having so much trouble
burning to this media. I get recording errors. CD-rw that wont read.
Sometimes though I am lucky and it writes. I have no difficulty playing
audio cd's. I have no reason to believe that the drive or the software is
faulty (drive generally runs well, softwaqre appears to work well)

samsung burner abiut 3 yrs old
adaptec burning software

thanks


I've had a number of different types of drives that acted up. In a
number of cases, just blowing canned air into the drive apparently
removed some dust and got it working. I also had a CD-RW drive that
behaved that way just before it crapped out totally.
FWIW

smh wrote:

nonsense snipped

You should consider selling your computer and investing in a good
strait-jacket and a really l..ooong stay in a mental hospital, because you
and your vendeta againt Mike R. is really totally off the wall crazy. You
are now even showing up in other groups with your inconherent ravings. From
time to time you do show some 'reality' in your posts, but less and less
frequently. Think you really should consider the above suggestion, you are
really off the deep end now.

Allen