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Old September 18th 03, 03:00 AM
Joe Emenaker
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Default "Successful Burn" isn't really successful

Okay, this one has me baffled.

For the past couple of months, I haven't been able to make working CDs
with Nero 6, Roxio 6, etc. They seem to burn, but they don't work
afterward. The scenario seems to go like this:

I'll make a new CD image and drag some files into it (or I'll burn
straight from a pre-existing bin/cue or iso image) and then start the
burn. Everything proceeds like it used to (all of the buffer levels
look right, etc.) and then it says that it's finished.

I take the CD out, look at it, and I can *see* that the disc had info
burned onto it. However, when I stick it back into the drive, it
doesn't show any files on the disc. There are a few symptoms that
indicate that the disc is still blank, and a few that indicate that it
is *not*:

"Blank" symptoms:
- When I put the disc in the burner, Windows pops up with the "Blank
CD" "What do you want Windows to do" dialog, where I can tell Windows
to launch Nero, etc.
- When I go to "My Computer" and double-click on the drive (which
isn't showing any disc label), it gives me a "Please insert a disk
into drive E:" dialog.

"Non-Blank" symptoms:
- When I try to burn to the disc again with Nero or something, I get
a message saying that the disc isn't blank and that I need to insert a
blank cd.
- In Nero, I can click "Disc Info" and it shows me the disc showing
one session and one track.

The same bin/cue set that I'm wrestling with right now burns fine on
another machine. In Nero's "Disc Info" screen for the *working* disc
(burned on another machine, mind you), the info for Session 01/Track
01 reads:
Track 01: 0:02.00 20:41.11 (182MB), ISO 9660/ bootable (mode 1)

while the one for a *NON* working discs reads:
Track 01: 0:02.00 20:41.11 (182MB), Data (mode 1)

Now, this seems to happen no matter if I use Fireburner, Nero 6, Roxio
6, or Alcohol 120%. Also, the only CD-related thing I can remember
doing any time around when this problem cropped up is that I installed
Alcohol 120%.

Any ideas?

- Joe
  #2  
Old October 3rd 03, 10:37 PM
Alan
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"Joe Emenaker" wrote in message
om...
Okay, this one has me baffled.

For the past couple of months, I haven't been able to make working CDs
with Nero 6, Roxio 6, etc. They seem to burn, but they don't work
afterward. The scenario seems to go like this:

I'll make a new CD image and drag some files into it (or I'll burn
straight from a pre-existing bin/cue or iso image) and then start the
burn. Everything proceeds like it used to (all of the buffer levels
look right, etc.) and then it says that it's finished.

I take the CD out, look at it, and I can *see* that the disc had info
burned onto it. However, when I stick it back into the drive, it
doesn't show any files on the disc. There are a few symptoms that
indicate that the disc is still blank, and a few that indicate that it
is *not*:

"Blank" symptoms:
- When I put the disc in the burner, Windows pops up with the "Blank
CD" "What do you want Windows to do" dialog, where I can tell Windows
to launch Nero, etc.
- When I go to "My Computer" and double-click on the drive (which
isn't showing any disc label), it gives me a "Please insert a disk
into drive E:" dialog.

"Non-Blank" symptoms:
- When I try to burn to the disc again with Nero or something, I get
a message saying that the disc isn't blank and that I need to insert a
blank cd.
- In Nero, I can click "Disc Info" and it shows me the disc showing
one session and one track.

The same bin/cue set that I'm wrestling with right now burns fine on
another machine. In Nero's "Disc Info" screen for the *working* disc
(burned on another machine, mind you), the info for Session 01/Track
01 reads:
Track 01: 0:02.00 20:41.11 (182MB), ISO 9660/ bootable (mode 1)

while the one for a *NON* working discs reads:
Track 01: 0:02.00 20:41.11 (182MB), Data (mode 1)

Now, this seems to happen no matter if I use Fireburner, Nero 6, Roxio
6, or Alcohol 120%. Also, the only CD-related thing I can remember
doing any time around when this problem cropped up is that I installed
Alcohol 120%.

Any ideas?

- Joe


Don't use Nero and Roxio on the same disc. For that matter on the same
machine. A disc first burned in Roxio will fail all the time when another
session is added using Nero. It usually gives a warning to that effect too.
It will burn but usually only shows the first session information when read
or fails totally. Alan


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Old October 3rd 03, 11:05 PM
Tim Kroesen
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Sounds like some serious VXD bloat with all the proggy demo's you've
installed... Try a Feurio install and see what the system checker
module says... We assume you've tried different media and burn
speeds...

Can anyone confirm that a properly mastered and open disk made with EZ
cannot be continued in Nero... or just more Roxio bashing...

Tim K

"Alan" wrote in message
...

"Joe Emenaker" wrote in message
om...
Okay, this one has me baffled.

For the past couple of months, I haven't been able to make working

CDs
with Nero 6, Roxio 6, etc. They seem to burn, but they don't work
afterward. The scenario seems to go like this:

I'll make a new CD image and drag some files into it (or I'll burn
straight from a pre-existing bin/cue or iso image) and then start

the
burn. Everything proceeds like it used to (all of the buffer levels
look right, etc.) and then it says that it's finished.

I take the CD out, look at it, and I can *see* that the disc had

info
burned onto it. However, when I stick it back into the drive, it
doesn't show any files on the disc. There are a few symptoms that
indicate that the disc is still blank, and a few that indicate that

it
is *not*:

"Blank" symptoms:
- When I put the disc in the burner, Windows pops up with the

"Blank
CD" "What do you want Windows to do" dialog, where I can tell

Windows
to launch Nero, etc.
- When I go to "My Computer" and double-click on the drive (which
isn't showing any disc label), it gives me a "Please insert a disk
into drive E:" dialog.

"Non-Blank" symptoms:
- When I try to burn to the disc again with Nero or something, I

get
a message saying that the disc isn't blank and that I need to insert

a
blank cd.
- In Nero, I can click "Disc Info" and it shows me the disc showing
one session and one track.

The same bin/cue set that I'm wrestling with right now burns fine on
another machine. In Nero's "Disc Info" screen for the *working* disc
(burned on another machine, mind you), the info for Session 01/Track
01 reads:
Track 01: 0:02.00 20:41.11 (182MB), ISO 9660/ bootable (mode

1)

while the one for a *NON* working discs reads:
Track 01: 0:02.00 20:41.11 (182MB), Data (mode 1)

Now, this seems to happen no matter if I use Fireburner, Nero 6,

Roxio
6, or Alcohol 120%. Also, the only CD-related thing I can remember
doing any time around when this problem cropped up is that I

installed
Alcohol 120%.

Any ideas?

- Joe


Don't use Nero and Roxio on the same disc. For that matter on the same
machine. A disc first burned in Roxio will fail all the time when

another
session is added using Nero. It usually gives a warning to that effect

too.
It will burn but usually only shows the first session information when

read
or fails totally. Alan



  #4  
Old October 4th 03, 01:07 AM
Alan
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"Tim Kroesen" wrote in message
...
Sounds like some serious VXD bloat with all the proggy demo's you've
installed... Try a Feurio install and see what the system checker
module says... We assume you've tried different media and burn
speeds...

Can anyone confirm that a properly mastered and open disk made with EZ
cannot be continued in Nero... or just more Roxio bashing...

Tim K


I hope your not implying I am a Roxio basher.... I actually only use Roxio
and dislike Nero's layout. Roxio's layout is just like Windows Explorer and
idiot proof. There is nothing obvious to newbies about using Nero which is
why I suspect Roxio's layout is as it is now. Inherent familiarity from just
using any Windows 95+ OS. Alan


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Old October 4th 03, 01:18 AM
smh
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Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------
( Reduced to living off the trash? )
( ... my thanks to Tim ... )

Alan wrote:

Tim Kroesen ("Net-Trash") wrote...

Sounds like some serious VXD bloat with all the proggy demo's you've
installed... Try a Feurio install and see what the system checker
module says... We assume you've tried different media and burn
speeds...

Can anyone confirm that a properly mastered and open disk made with EZ
cannot be continued in Nero... or just more Roxio bashing...


I hope your not implying I am a Roxio basher.... I actually only use Roxio
and dislike Nero's layout. Roxio's layout is just like Windows Explorer and
idiot proof. There is nothing obvious to newbies about using Nero which is
why I suspect Roxio's layout is as it is now. Inherent familiarity from just
using any Windows 95+ OS. Alan


Nero, Window, Horizontal (compilation bottom)
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Old October 4th 03, 12:36 PM
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On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:07:53 -0400, "Alan" wrote:


"Tim Kroesen" wrote in message
...
Sounds like some serious VXD bloat with all the proggy demo's you've
installed... Try a Feurio install and see what the system checker
module says... We assume you've tried different media and burn
speeds...

Can anyone confirm that a properly mastered and open disk made with EZ
cannot be continued in Nero... or just more Roxio bashing...

Tim K


I hope your not implying I am a Roxio basher.... I actually only use Roxio
and dislike Nero's layout. Roxio's layout is just like Windows Explorer and
idiot proof. There is nothing obvious to newbies about using Nero which is
why I suspect Roxio's layout is as it is now. Inherent familiarity from just
using any Windows 95+ OS. Alan


I didn't really have any problem with Nero's layout. You click New
and drag n drop the files you want. When you're ready you tell it to
write the cd. Where do you get confused ?

Then there's that funny thing called a manual


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Old October 4th 03, 05:28 PM
Tim Kroesen
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OK... so you're not a Roxio basher... I'd still like some explanation,
confirmation or denial as to your Roxio/Nero claim.

What of your main problem that *also* affects Nero; since you are now
attracting Roxio bashers to your thread?

Would seem like a drive/media problem; no? We've seen these 'burns
CDRW OK but not CDR' before here and drive/media problem is usually
diagnosed...

Tim K

"Alan" wrote in message
...

"Tim Kroesen" wrote in message
...
Sounds like some serious VXD bloat with all the proggy demo's

you've
installed... Try a Feurio install and see what the system checker
module says... We assume you've tried different media and burn
speeds...

Can anyone confirm that a properly mastered and open disk made with

EZ
cannot be continued in Nero... or just more Roxio bashing...

Tim K


I hope your not implying I am a Roxio basher.... I actually only use

Roxio
and dislike Nero's layout. Roxio's layout is just like Windows

Explorer and
idiot proof. There is nothing obvious to newbies about using Nero

which is
why I suspect Roxio's layout is as it is now. Inherent familiarity

from just
using any Windows 95+ OS. Alan



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Old October 4th 03, 07:30 PM
smh
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.. --------------------------------------
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------
( Reduced to living off the trash? )
( ... my thanks to Tim ... )

Alan wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:07:53 -0400, "Alan" wrote:


I didn't really have any problem with Nero's layout. You click New
and drag n drop the files you want. When you're ready you tell it to
write the cd. Where do you get confused ?

Then there's that funny thing called a manual


There were three vertical windows that you could drag to either the second
or the first one. Then when you went to acutually burn the disc it made you
click multiple times in a few different popup windows before it burned the
disc. It was something like a wizard I guess. When in Roxio when you hit
Create CD thats it. One click its burning. The persons computer I was using
still is having a bit of a time with it. I don't know which version it was
but I think it's less than a year. If I had the machine I would specifically
tell you what the steps were and why it wasn't obvious as to what to do. The
file att. is only 17 kb so forgive me for posting a binary. It shows the
ease I am talking about. Alan

[Image]


Make compilation window horizontal with [Window, Horizontal...].
Then use Nero Express.
 




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