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Old December 9th 03, 06:59 PM
Ray R
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As an experiment I tried to copy an print one of the new $20 bills.
Before you say I am breaking the law by doing so read the
web site referenced at the end of note. I fully intend to obey the rules.
I was able to do a full scan at 1600 DPI using Photoshop CS (ver 8.0)
and save the resulting image to the hard drive.

When I tried to print it on my Canon i850 only a small part of it
would print regardless of the orientation or the size. Other
printing programs resulted in the same results. I was able to cut
a small part of the image and print it. When I tried to cut about
half the image Photoshop informed me that it was illegal and
referred me to the web page below. It seems as though the printer
and software vendors are stepping past what is legally required.

As per the legal requirement I have deleted the file that contained
the image.

http://www.treas.gov/usss/money_illustrations.shtml
U.S. Currency
The Counterfeit Detection Act of 1992, Public Law 102-550, in Section 411 of
Title 31 of the Code of Federal Regulations, permits color illustrations of U.S.
currency provided:
1.. the illustration is of a size less than three-fourths or more than one and
one-half, in linear dimension, of each part of the item illustrated;

2.. the illustration is one-sided; and

3.. all negatives, plates, positives, digitized storage medium, graphic files,
magnetic medium, optical storage devices, and any other thing used in the making
of the illustration that contain an image of the illustration or any part
thereof are destroyed and/or deleted or erased after their final use.


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Old December 9th 03, 07:20 PM
Trev
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"Ray R" wrote in message
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As an experiment I tried to copy an print one of the new $20 bills.
Before you say I am breaking the law by doing so read the
web site referenced at the end of note. I fully intend to obey the

rules.
I was able to do a full scan at 1600 DPI using Photoshop CS (ver 8.0)
and save the resulting image to the hard drive.


Psp 8 will not let you scan it into the program. Wont allow Uk Notes
either


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Old December 9th 03, 08:00 PM
Phrederick
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The software is smart enough to recognize that you are scanning money???

"Trev" wrote in message
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"Ray R" wrote in message
news:hYoBb.25499$o9.19199@fed1read07...
As an experiment I tried to copy an print one of the new $20 bills.
Before you say I am breaking the law by doing so read the
web site referenced at the end of note. I fully intend to obey the

rules.
I was able to do a full scan at 1600 DPI using Photoshop CS (ver 8.0)
and save the resulting image to the hard drive.


Psp 8 will not let you scan it into the program. Wont allow Uk Notes
either




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Old December 9th 03, 09:27 PM
Yet Another Mike
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Perhaps the software detects the dimensions of the object. Maybe placing 2
or 3 at a time together. Alternatively, the software could detect color
balance (esp for "greenbacks" -- US bills). In that case, placing the bill
on a colored background might help. Also, try freeware programs. They are
less likely to have such controls.


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Old December 9th 03, 09:29 PM
Mike A.
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"Phrederick" wrote in message
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The software is smart enough to recognize that you are scanning

money???

"Trev" wrote in message
...

"Ray R" wrote in message
news:hYoBb.25499$o9.19199@fed1read07...
As an experiment I tried to copy an print one of the new $20

bills.
Before you say I am breaking the law by doing so read the
web site referenced at the end of note. I fully intend to obey

the
rules.
I was able to do a full scan at 1600 DPI using Photoshop CS (ver

8.0)
and save the resulting image to the hard drive.


Psp 8 will not let you scan it into the program. Wont allow Uk

Notes
either


Won't scan Canadian bills either.

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Old December 10th 03, 01:30 AM
GB
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what about PS CS? It scans in Australian currency no problems, does it
'detect' US currency?

"Yet Another Mike" wrote in message
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Perhaps the software detects the dimensions of the object. Maybe placing 2
or 3 at a time together. Alternatively, the software could detect color
balance (esp for "greenbacks" -- US bills). In that case, placing the bill
on a colored background might help. Also, try freeware programs. They are
less likely to have such controls.




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Old December 10th 03, 01:46 AM
Robin
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I have been a photocopier technician for 23 years. Even color copier from
8-9 years ago were required to have software that would prevent them from
copying currency. If you wanted to swap out the prom's you had to have a
factory rep flown out to do it...

Robin in Bremerton

"Ray R" wrote in message
news:hYoBb.25499$o9.19199@fed1read07...
As an experiment I tried to copy an print one of the new $20 bills.
Before you say I am breaking the law by doing so read the
web site referenced at the end of note. I fully intend to obey the rules.
I was able to do a full scan at 1600 DPI using Photoshop CS (ver 8.0)
and save the resulting image to the hard drive.

When I tried to print it on my Canon i850 only a small part of it
would print regardless of the orientation or the size. Other
printing programs resulted in the same results. I was able to cut
a small part of the image and print it. When I tried to cut about
half the image Photoshop informed me that it was illegal and
referred me to the web page below. It seems as though the printer
and software vendors are stepping past what is legally required.

As per the legal requirement I have deleted the file that contained
the image.

http://www.treas.gov/usss/money_illustrations.shtml
U.S. Currency
The Counterfeit Detection Act of 1992, Public Law 102-550, in Section 411

of
Title 31 of the Code of Federal Regulations, permits color illustrations

of U.S.
currency provided:
1.. the illustration is of a size less than three-fourths or more than

one and
one-half, in linear dimension, of each part of the item illustrated;

2.. the illustration is one-sided; and

3.. all negatives, plates, positives, digitized storage medium, graphic

files,
magnetic medium, optical storage devices, and any other thing used in the

making
of the illustration that contain an image of the illustration or any part
thereof are destroyed and/or deleted or erased after their final use.




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Old December 10th 03, 02:36 AM
Larry
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I believe photo-copiers also do not duplicate certain shades of blue on
purpose.

-Larry

"Robin" wrote in message
...
I have been a photocopier technician for 23 years. Even color copier from
8-9 years ago were required to have software that would prevent them from
copying currency. If you wanted to swap out the prom's you had to have a
factory rep flown out to do it...

Robin in Bremerton

"Ray R" wrote in message
news:hYoBb.25499$o9.19199@fed1read07...
As an experiment I tried to copy an print one of the new $20 bills.
Before you say I am breaking the law by doing so read the
web site referenced at the end of note. I fully intend to obey the

rules.
I was able to do a full scan at 1600 DPI using Photoshop CS (ver 8.0)
and save the resulting image to the hard drive.

When I tried to print it on my Canon i850 only a small part of it
would print regardless of the orientation or the size. Other
printing programs resulted in the same results. I was able to cut
a small part of the image and print it. When I tried to cut about
half the image Photoshop informed me that it was illegal and
referred me to the web page below. It seems as though the printer
and software vendors are stepping past what is legally required.

As per the legal requirement I have deleted the file that contained
the image.

http://www.treas.gov/usss/money_illustrations.shtml
U.S. Currency
The Counterfeit Detection Act of 1992, Public Law 102-550, in Section

411
of
Title 31 of the Code of Federal Regulations, permits color illustrations

of U.S.
currency provided:
1.. the illustration is of a size less than three-fourths or more than

one and
one-half, in linear dimension, of each part of the item illustrated;

2.. the illustration is one-sided; and

3.. all negatives, plates, positives, digitized storage medium,

graphic
files,
magnetic medium, optical storage devices, and any other thing used in

the
making
of the illustration that contain an image of the illustration or any

part
thereof are destroyed and/or deleted or erased after their final use.






  #9  
Old December 10th 03, 05:59 AM
Robin
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Early copiers used a Selenium drum. Selenium has a resitance to the flow of
electrons when in the dark but conducts in the light. But Selenium did not
respond well to the longer length light waves in the blue spectrum. This
resulted in the creation of "non-repo blue" ink. A light shade of blue was
often used to put marks on originals that you did not want to show up when
copied. However newer style photoconductors respond better to blue light so
it is not as effective.

Robin

"Larry" wrote in message
news:kwvBb.57504$yM6.51827@lakeread06...
I believe photo-copiers also do not duplicate certain shades of blue on
purpose.

-Larry

"Robin" wrote in message
...
I have been a photocopier technician for 23 years. Even color copier

from
8-9 years ago were required to have software that would prevent them

from
copying currency. If you wanted to swap out the prom's you had to have

a
factory rep flown out to do it...

Robin in Bremerton

"Ray R" wrote in message
news:hYoBb.25499$o9.19199@fed1read07...
As an experiment I tried to copy an print one of the new $20 bills.
Before you say I am breaking the law by doing so read the
web site referenced at the end of note. I fully intend to obey the

rules.
I was able to do a full scan at 1600 DPI using Photoshop CS (ver 8.0)
and save the resulting image to the hard drive.

When I tried to print it on my Canon i850 only a small part of it
would print regardless of the orientation or the size. Other
printing programs resulted in the same results. I was able to cut
a small part of the image and print it. When I tried to cut about
half the image Photoshop informed me that it was illegal and
referred me to the web page below. It seems as though the printer
and software vendors are stepping past what is legally required.

As per the legal requirement I have deleted the file that contained
the image.

http://www.treas.gov/usss/money_illustrations.shtml
U.S. Currency
The Counterfeit Detection Act of 1992, Public Law 102-550, in Section

411
of
Title 31 of the Code of Federal Regulations, permits color

illustrations
of U.S.
currency provided:
1.. the illustration is of a size less than three-fourths or more

than
one and
one-half, in linear dimension, of each part of the item illustrated;

2.. the illustration is one-sided; and

3.. all negatives, plates, positives, digitized storage medium,

graphic
files,
magnetic medium, optical storage devices, and any other thing used in

the
making
of the illustration that contain an image of the illustration or any

part
thereof are destroyed and/or deleted or erased after their final use.








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Old December 10th 03, 07:29 PM
Ray R
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"Yet Another Mike" wrote in message
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Perhaps the software detects the dimensions of the object. Maybe placing 2
or 3 at a time together. Alternatively, the software could detect color
balance (esp for "greenbacks" -- US bills). In that case, placing the bill
on a colored background might help. Also, try freeware programs. They are
less likely to have such controls.


On the US currency it appears to only be series 2004 currency
that is affected. The Canon recognizes it as currency and will
only print a small portion of it. Photoshop comes up with an
error "This application does not support the unauthorized
processing of banknote images." Series 1999 bills has no
such problem.


 




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