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Old November 20th 11, 11:40 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Allen Drake
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Have any of you people ever thought about or actually cut away any
of these useless wires that protrude from your power supplies that go
unused because there are just so many? Are there any units that have
just plug in cables like Thermaltake extra wire options?

http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Produc...C=1264&ID=1830

It's just to crowded in my latest project with a compact case. Even
with a large gaming tower there just isn't enough room for all these
extra wires.

How about shorter SATA cables and fans that have plugs right at their
cases instead of having to tie up so many wires all the time. Isn't
about time someone made a case that has a built in harness or true
modular components?

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Old November 20th 11, 02:14 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
John Doe
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Default Cutting PS wires anyone?

Allen Drake ALDrake Spamex.com wrote:

Have any of you people ever thought about or actually cut away
any of these useless wires that protrude from your power
supplies that go unused because there are just so many?


Cut and then solder to make shorter? No. Cut some of the
unnecessary cables? Yes. But that should be done conservatively,
if you must.

Are there any units that have just plug in cables


Yes, various brands include modular power supply cables.

It's just to crowded in my latest project with a compact case.
Even with a large gaming tower there just isn't enough room for
all these extra wires.


Hmm. To me, it's just the extra work of meticulously routing them
so that they are not in the way.

Good luck and have fun.
--















How about shorter SATA cables and fans that have plugs right at their
cases instead of having to tie up so many wires all the time. Isn't
about time someone made a case that has a built in harness or true
modular components?



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Old November 20th 11, 05:10 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Paul
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Default Cutting PS wires anyone?

John Doe wrote:
Allen Drake ALDrake Spamex.com wrote:

Have any of you people ever thought about or actually cut away
any of these useless wires that protrude from your power
supplies that go unused because there are just so many?


Cut and then solder to make shorter? No. Cut some of the
unnecessary cables? Yes. But that should be done conservatively,
if you must.

Are there any units that have just plug in cables


Yes, various brands include modular power supply cables.

It's just to crowded in my latest project with a compact case.
Even with a large gaming tower there just isn't enough room for
all these extra wires.


Hmm. To me, it's just the extra work of meticulously routing them
so that they are not in the way.

Good luck and have fun.


Picture of a modular power supply here.

http://images.highspeedbackbone.net/...2-40500_01.jpg

Paul
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Old November 20th 11, 07:30 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Flasherly[_2_]
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Default Cutting PS wires anyone?

On Nov 20, 6:40 am, Allen Drake wrote:
Have any of you people ever thought about or actually cut away any
of these useless wires that protrude from your power supplies that go
unused because there are just so many? Are there any units that have
just plug in cables like Thermaltake extra wire options?

http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Produc...C=1264&ID=1830

It's just to crowded in my latest project with a compact case. Even
with a large gaming tower there just isn't enough room for all these
extra wires.

How about shorter SATA cables and fans that have plugs right at their
cases instead of having to tie up so many wires all the time. Isn't
about time someone made a case that has a built in harness or true
modular components?


Nope. Conversely, though. . .

Once wired two power supplies together.
No harm done, but didn't power up when plugged in.
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Old November 20th 11, 09:26 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Default Cutting PS wires anyone?

Allen Drake wrote:

Are there any units that have
just plug in cables like Thermaltake extra wire options?

http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Produc...C=1264&ID=1830


There are many PSUs, at higher cost, that come with pluggable cables
rather than giving you a fixed harness. When searching on PSUs at an
etailer, look for "modular".

Example search at one etailer:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...vancedSearch=1


It's just to crowded in my latest project with a compact case. Even
with a large gaming tower there just isn't enough room for all these
extra wires.


I've purchased many PSUs with fixed wiring harness and always managed to
find room but it depends if you are neat while using cable ties and
route the wiring to get it out of the way, like behind the drive cage or
alongside the mobo's front edge (using self-stick cable tie bases
although some just have holes so you could pop rivet them in place)
while also keeping it out of the airflow.

http://www.conrad.de/medias/global/c...B.EPS_1000.jpg
http://www.xtremevan.co.uk/images/sb2.jpg

Many times you can shove some of the extra connector ends between the
drives (so space them out in the cages instead of placing right next to
each other) but don't shove much in between so the drives can cool off
(another reason not to place them apart unless you want to add more fans
and more noise). Loop the extra wiring and connector back on itself and
use cable ties to keep a minimal footprint to let the drive get air flow
and typically you don't need anything to keep the looped wiring there.

How about shorter SATA cables and fans that have plugs right at their
cases instead of having to tie up so many wires all the time. Isn't
about time someone made a case that has a built in harness or true
modular components?


Modular PSUs have been around for a long time. But then routing the
wire harness against the 2nd side panel (to which the mobo attaches) and
behind the drive cage is a long-time solution, too, along with cable
ties and cable ties mounting bases.
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Old November 20th 11, 10:21 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Allen Drake
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Default Cutting PS wires anyone?

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 15:26:49 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:

Allen Drake wrote:

Are there any units that have
just plug in cables like Thermaltake extra wire options?

http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Produc...C=1264&ID=1830


There are many PSUs, at higher cost, that come with pluggable cables
rather than giving you a fixed harness. When searching on PSUs at an
etailer, look for "modular".

Example search at one etailer:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...vancedSearch=1


It's just to crowded in my latest project with a compact case. Even
with a large gaming tower there just isn't enough room for all these
extra wires.


I've purchased many PSUs with fixed wiring harness and always managed to
find room but it depends if you are neat while using cable ties and
route the wiring to get it out of the way, like behind the drive cage or
alongside the mobo's front edge (using self-stick cable tie bases
although some just have holes so you could pop rivet them in place)
while also keeping it out of the airflow.

http://www.conrad.de/medias/global/c...B.EPS_1000.jpg
http://www.xtremevan.co.uk/images/sb2.jpg

Many times you can shove some of the extra connector ends between the
drives (so space them out in the cages instead of placing right next to
each other) but don't shove much in between so the drives can cool off
(another reason not to place them apart unless you want to add more fans
and more noise). Loop the extra wiring and connector back on itself and
use cable ties to keep a minimal footprint to let the drive get air flow
and typically you don't need anything to keep the looped wiring there.

How about shorter SATA cables and fans that have plugs right at their
cases instead of having to tie up so many wires all the time. Isn't
about time someone made a case that has a built in harness or true
modular components?


Modular PSUs have been around for a long time. But then routing the
wire harness against the 2nd side panel (to which the mobo attaches) and
behind the drive cage is a long-time solution, too, along with cable
ties and cable ties mounting bases.



Excellent post. Thanks. I like the modular supplies and think I will
order a few soon. I do think I will be making my own cables to get
them exactly the right size. I've seen many go to lengths like cutting
holes in cases. I have a new case that has little room to hide any PSU
cables anywhere.

Al.
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Old November 20th 11, 11:14 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
SC Tom
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Default Cutting PS wires anyone?


"Allen Drake" wrote in message news
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 15:26:49 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:

Allen Drake wrote:

Are there any units that have
just plug in cables like Thermaltake extra wire options?

http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Produc...C=1264&ID=1830


There are many PSUs, at higher cost, that come with pluggable cables
rather than giving you a fixed harness. When searching on PSUs at an
etailer, look for "modular".

Example search at one etailer:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...vancedSearch=1


It's just to crowded in my latest project with a compact case. Even
with a large gaming tower there just isn't enough room for all these
extra wires.


I've purchased many PSUs with fixed wiring harness and always managed to
find room but it depends if you are neat while using cable ties and
route the wiring to get it out of the way, like behind the drive cage or
alongside the mobo's front edge (using self-stick cable tie bases
although some just have holes so you could pop rivet them in place)
while also keeping it out of the airflow.

http://www.conrad.de/medias/global/c...B.EPS_1000.jpg
http://www.xtremevan.co.uk/images/sb2.jpg

Many times you can shove some of the extra connector ends between the
drives (so space them out in the cages instead of placing right next to
each other) but don't shove much in between so the drives can cool off
(another reason not to place them apart unless you want to add more fans
and more noise). Loop the extra wiring and connector back on itself and
use cable ties to keep a minimal footprint to let the drive get air flow
and typically you don't need anything to keep the looped wiring there.

How about shorter SATA cables and fans that have plugs right at their
cases instead of having to tie up so many wires all the time. Isn't
about time someone made a case that has a built in harness or true
modular components?


Modular PSUs have been around for a long time. But then routing the
wire harness against the 2nd side panel (to which the mobo attaches) and
behind the drive cage is a long-time solution, too, along with cable
ties and cable ties mounting bases.



Excellent post. Thanks. I like the modular supplies and think I will
order a few soon. I do think I will be making my own cables to get
them exactly the right size. I've seen many go to lengths like cutting
holes in cases. I have a new case that has little room to hide any PSU
cables anywhere.

Al.


If you have the pin removal tools and a decent soldering iron (or new pins and a crimping tool), you can make the cables
any length you need/want. Using a modular PSU would make it quite easy to do (albeit time consuming) since you could
mount your PSU in place, then measure your cables individually without the others getting in the way.
--
SC Tom

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Old November 21st 11, 09:14 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Allen Drake
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Default Cutting PS wires anyone?

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 18:14:38 -0500, "SC Tom" wrote:


"Allen Drake" wrote in message news
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 15:26:49 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:

Allen Drake wrote:

Are there any units that have
just plug in cables like Thermaltake extra wire options?

http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Produc...C=1264&ID=1830

There are many PSUs, at higher cost, that come with pluggable cables
rather than giving you a fixed harness. When searching on PSUs at an
etailer, look for "modular".

Example search at one etailer:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...vancedSearch=1


It's just to crowded in my latest project with a compact case. Even
with a large gaming tower there just isn't enough room for all these
extra wires.

I've purchased many PSUs with fixed wiring harness and always managed to
find room but it depends if you are neat while using cable ties and
route the wiring to get it out of the way, like behind the drive cage or
alongside the mobo's front edge (using self-stick cable tie bases
although some just have holes so you could pop rivet them in place)
while also keeping it out of the airflow.

http://www.conrad.de/medias/global/c...B.EPS_1000.jpg
http://www.xtremevan.co.uk/images/sb2.jpg

Many times you can shove some of the extra connector ends between the
drives (so space them out in the cages instead of placing right next to
each other) but don't shove much in between so the drives can cool off
(another reason not to place them apart unless you want to add more fans
and more noise). Loop the extra wiring and connector back on itself and
use cable ties to keep a minimal footprint to let the drive get air flow
and typically you don't need anything to keep the looped wiring there.

How about shorter SATA cables and fans that have plugs right at their
cases instead of having to tie up so many wires all the time. Isn't
about time someone made a case that has a built in harness or true
modular components?

Modular PSUs have been around for a long time. But then routing the
wire harness against the 2nd side panel (to which the mobo attaches) and
behind the drive cage is a long-time solution, too, along with cable
ties and cable ties mounting bases.



Excellent post. Thanks. I like the modular supplies and think I will
order a few soon. I do think I will be making my own cables to get
them exactly the right size. I've seen many go to lengths like cutting
holes in cases. I have a new case that has little room to hide any PSU
cables anywhere.

Al.


If you have the pin removal tools and a decent soldering iron (or new pins and a crimping tool), you can make the cables
any length you need/want. Using a modular PSU would make it quite easy to do (albeit time consuming) since you could
mount your PSU in place, then measure your cables individually without the others getting in the way.


I thought of that. I do know someone that has all the tools for the
job. Many times she has offered to bring them home from work. This
time I think I will take her up on that. This is the first time I ever
worked on such a small case and some of those beefy PSU have very
large and long wires.
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Old November 21st 11, 11:58 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
SC Tom
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Default Cutting PS wires anyone?


"Allen Drake" wrote in message ...
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 18:14:38 -0500, "SC Tom" wrote:


"Allen Drake" wrote in message news
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 15:26:49 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:

Allen Drake wrote:

Are there any units that have
just plug in cables like Thermaltake extra wire options?

http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Produc...C=1264&ID=1830

There are many PSUs, at higher cost, that come with pluggable cables
rather than giving you a fixed harness. When searching on PSUs at an
etailer, look for "modular".

Example search at one etailer:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...vancedSearch=1


It's just to crowded in my latest project with a compact case. Even
with a large gaming tower there just isn't enough room for all these
extra wires.

I've purchased many PSUs with fixed wiring harness and always managed to
find room but it depends if you are neat while using cable ties and
route the wiring to get it out of the way, like behind the drive cage or
alongside the mobo's front edge (using self-stick cable tie bases
although some just have holes so you could pop rivet them in place)
while also keeping it out of the airflow.

http://www.conrad.de/medias/global/c...B.EPS_1000.jpg
http://www.xtremevan.co.uk/images/sb2.jpg

Many times you can shove some of the extra connector ends between the
drives (so space them out in the cages instead of placing right next to
each other) but don't shove much in between so the drives can cool off
(another reason not to place them apart unless you want to add more fans
and more noise). Loop the extra wiring and connector back on itself and
use cable ties to keep a minimal footprint to let the drive get air flow
and typically you don't need anything to keep the looped wiring there.

How about shorter SATA cables and fans that have plugs right at their
cases instead of having to tie up so many wires all the time. Isn't
about time someone made a case that has a built in harness or true
modular components?

Modular PSUs have been around for a long time. But then routing the
wire harness against the 2nd side panel (to which the mobo attaches) and
behind the drive cage is a long-time solution, too, along with cable
ties and cable ties mounting bases.


Excellent post. Thanks. I like the modular supplies and think I will
order a few soon. I do think I will be making my own cables to get
them exactly the right size. I've seen many go to lengths like cutting
holes in cases. I have a new case that has little room to hide any PSU
cables anywhere.

Al.


If you have the pin removal tools and a decent soldering iron (or new pins and a crimping tool), you can make the
cables
any length you need/want. Using a modular PSU would make it quite easy to do (albeit time consuming) since you could
mount your PSU in place, then measure your cables individually without the others getting in the way.


I thought of that. I do know someone that has all the tools for the
job. Many times she has offered to bring them home from work. This
time I think I will take her up on that. This is the first time I ever
worked on such a small case and some of those beefy PSU have very
large and long wires.


Long you can take care of, but large, not so much :-) You certainly don't want to try to use smaller wiring.
Good luck and take your time. Certainly don't want any crossed wires here.
--
SC Tom

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Old November 21st 11, 08:54 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Allen Drake
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Default Cutting PS wires anyone?

On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 06:58:04 -0500, "SC Tom" wrote:


"Allen Drake" wrote in message ...
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 18:14:38 -0500, "SC Tom" wrote:


"Allen Drake" wrote in message news On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 15:26:49 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:

Allen Drake wrote:

Are there any units that have
just plug in cables like Thermaltake extra wire options?

http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Produc...C=1264&ID=1830

There are many PSUs, at higher cost, that come with pluggable cables
rather than giving you a fixed harness. When searching on PSUs at an
etailer, look for "modular".

Example search at one etailer:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...vancedSearch=1


It's just to crowded in my latest project with a compact case. Even
with a large gaming tower there just isn't enough room for all these
extra wires.

I've purchased many PSUs with fixed wiring harness and always managed to
find room but it depends if you are neat while using cable ties and
route the wiring to get it out of the way, like behind the drive cage or
alongside the mobo's front edge (using self-stick cable tie bases
although some just have holes so you could pop rivet them in place)
while also keeping it out of the airflow.

http://www.conrad.de/medias/global/c...B.EPS_1000.jpg
http://www.xtremevan.co.uk/images/sb2.jpg

Many times you can shove some of the extra connector ends between the
drives (so space them out in the cages instead of placing right next to
each other) but don't shove much in between so the drives can cool off
(another reason not to place them apart unless you want to add more fans
and more noise). Loop the extra wiring and connector back on itself and
use cable ties to keep a minimal footprint to let the drive get air flow
and typically you don't need anything to keep the looped wiring there.

How about shorter SATA cables and fans that have plugs right at their
cases instead of having to tie up so many wires all the time. Isn't
about time someone made a case that has a built in harness or true
modular components?

Modular PSUs have been around for a long time. But then routing the
wire harness against the 2nd side panel (to which the mobo attaches) and
behind the drive cage is a long-time solution, too, along with cable
ties and cable ties mounting bases.


Excellent post. Thanks. I like the modular supplies and think I will
order a few soon. I do think I will be making my own cables to get
them exactly the right size. I've seen many go to lengths like cutting
holes in cases. I have a new case that has little room to hide any PSU
cables anywhere.

Al.

If you have the pin removal tools and a decent soldering iron (or new pins and a crimping tool), you can make the
cables
any length you need/want. Using a modular PSU would make it quite easy to do (albeit time consuming) since you could
mount your PSU in place, then measure your cables individually without the others getting in the way.


I thought of that. I do know someone that has all the tools for the
job. Many times she has offered to bring them home from work. This
time I think I will take her up on that. This is the first time I ever
worked on such a small case and some of those beefy PSU have very
large and long wires.


Long you can take care of, but large, not so much :-) You certainly don't want to try to use smaller wiring.
Good luck and take your time. Certainly don't want any crossed wires here.


Thanks. I have dealt with wires before. I know the importance of the
correct gage and type of wire I would be using. Depending on if I
decide to purchase a new unit which would be modular or simply hack
one up I already have I will be very careful.

Al.
 




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