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Which A3 Inkjet
I need to buy a replacement A3 inkjet to replace a Canon BJC6500 that
has died. I've had 4-5 years good service from th 6500 and was thinking of buying either the Canon Pixma IX4000 or IX5000 to replace it. Does anyone have one of these? Am I correct that the only difference between the two is the print speed? Can anyone suggest any alternatives bearing in mind I would like individual cartridges for each colour - not combo cartridges. Thanks in advance. Kev |
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Which A3 Inkjet
alphawave wrote: I need to buy a replacement A3 inkjet to replace a Canon BJC6500 that has died. I've had 4-5 years good service from th 6500 and was thinking of buying either the Canon Pixma IX4000 or IX5000 to replace it. The current model is the IP4300. Canon claims the ink has longer archival properties. The IP4300 meets your requirements and can be had for around $80.00. Be sure to only use Canon ink. Does anyone have one of these? Am I correct that the only difference between the two is the print speed? Can anyone suggest any alternatives bearing in mind I would like individual cartridges for each colour - not combo cartridges. Thanks in advance. Kev |
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Thanks for the info - but the IP range is not the same range as the IX
- the IP is an A4 format printer. Check out http://www.brochures.canon-europe.co...1144062464.pdf Kev measekite wrote: alphawave wrote: I need to buy a replacement A3 inkjet to replace a Canon BJC6500 that has died. I've had 4-5 years good service from th 6500 and was thinking of buying either the Canon Pixma IX4000 or IX5000 to replace it. The current model is the IP4300. Canon claims the ink has longer archival properties. The IP4300 meets your requirements and can be had for around $80.00. Be sure to only use Canon ink. Does anyone have one of these? Am I correct that the only difference between the two is the print speed? Can anyone suggest any alternatives bearing in mind I would like individual cartridges for each colour - not combo cartridges. Thanks in advance. Kev |
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alphawave wrote: Thanks for the info - but the IP range is not the same range as the IX - the IP is an A4 format printer. Check out http://www.brochures.canon-europe.co...1144062464.pdf Kev Ah, you've met our neighborhood troll... he's been told about these models many times but it doesn't sink in. Near as i'm aware... keep in mind I have not met these units (not even sure they are sold in the US), these are four tank printers using the same inks as the desktop equilivent, much like the bjc-6000 in this regard. The bjc-6000 at least an an optional photo black, cyan, magenta cartridge... so if you didn't use this before, you should be more than happy. Consider the ink compliment, I'm thinking it's gotta be much like the ip3000 in the fact it probally mixes cyan/magenta/yellow to make black for anything other than photo paper. Again, if you were happy with your bjc-6000 without the extra photo cartrige... I don't see a problem. I'm sort of in the same boat as your self, i'm running an old Epson 1520 for my a3+ needs. My big complaint is paying desktop prices for wide format, and 30min/print, but I can do proofs before sending out to costco... so for me it's not a bad deal. But if I was doing any volume what so ever, i'd swap models in a heartbeat, for something which takes larger tanks. The page yield is very deceptive. They don't make it clear that they are talking a4 printing for the cartridge yield, and even then the test print they are claming 1500pages for the black is for something setup to use NO pigmented black what so ever. If you were using the photo cartridge at all, consider shelling out more money for the i9900 or the pixma pro 9000. They lack the pigment black, but have the photo black, photo cyan/magenta, red and green (IIRC) inks. |
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I used the BJC6500 for CAD drawings - So, mostly black line drawings
with a little splash of colour for notes, dimensions, logos etc and the odd shaded view - so nothing too challenging graphically and yes the Black photo cart is not an issue. I think it must treat the lines as text and print them from the black cart rather than mixing CMY. The individual carts are a must as one colour usually runs out way before the others. I have spoken to Canon about the difference between the IX4000 and IX5000 and the only difference is the print speed. 18 ppm mono /14ppm colour for the IX4000 and 25 ppm mono /17 ppm colour for the IX5000 As speed is not that much of an issue for me I think I'll save £50 and buy the IX4000. I also asked if t would be possible to repair my old BJC6500 but the cost of sending an engineer + buying the parts outweighs the cost of a new machine. Kev zakezuke wrote: alphawave wrote: Thanks for the info - but the IP range is not the same range as the IX - the IP is an A4 format printer. Check out http://www.brochures.canon-europe.co...1144062464.pdf Kev Ah, you've met our neighborhood troll... he's been told about these models many times but it doesn't sink in. Near as i'm aware... keep in mind I have not met these units (not even sure they are sold in the US), these are four tank printers using the same inks as the desktop equilivent, much like the bjc-6000 in this regard. The bjc-6000 at least an an optional photo black, cyan, magenta cartridge... so if you didn't use this before, you should be more than happy. Consider the ink compliment, I'm thinking it's gotta be much like the ip3000 in the fact it probally mixes cyan/magenta/yellow to make black for anything other than photo paper. Again, if you were happy with your bjc-6000 without the extra photo cartrige... I don't see a problem. I'm sort of in the same boat as your self, i'm running an old Epson 1520 for my a3+ needs. My big complaint is paying desktop prices for wide format, and 30min/print, but I can do proofs before sending out to costco... so for me it's not a bad deal. But if I was doing any volume what so ever, i'd swap models in a heartbeat, for something which takes larger tanks. The page yield is very deceptive. They don't make it clear that they are talking a4 printing for the cartridge yield, and even then the test print they are claming 1500pages for the black is for something setup to use NO pigmented black what so ever. If you were using the photo cartridge at all, consider shelling out more money for the i9900 or the pixma pro 9000. They lack the pigment black, but have the photo black, photo cyan/magenta, red and green (IIRC) inks. |
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alphawave wrote: I used the BJC6500 for CAD drawings - So, mostly black line drawings with a little splash of colour for notes, dimensions, logos etc and the odd shaded view - so nothing too challenging graphically and yes the Black photo cart is not an issue. If you were happy before, there is no reason you wouldn't be happy now. Keep in mind on the lesser ip3000, if you selected anything other than plain paper it would use cyan magenta and yellow to make black, but given we are talking CAD this is likely what you want. Sharp high contrast dence lines. I lack experence with the ix4000/ix5000, but based on the specs it seems to be a wide model based on the older ip3000. I think it must treat the lines as text and print them from the black cart rather than mixing CMY. Yes, on lesser canons it's documented oriented, as in it's either text black, or dye black, and if no dye black mix colors to make dye black. The individual carts are a must as one colour usually runs out way before the others. This is fair comment... though I don't spend too much on ink for my stylus 1520 tri-color tank, so this is a non issue. It's true my volume is only that of the color I use the most, but the rest, well the rest while it does get tossed I don't feel I lose money as otherwise i'd be shelling out more money for three tanks, and in the case of epson the cleaning cycles swapping cartridges are so much that if it took individual tanks, i'd swap them all at the same time. Consumer canons are different in this regard, these guys I have no issues swapping out tanks one at a time. I have spoken to Canon about the difference between the IX4000 and IX5000 and the only difference is the print speed. 18 ppm mono /14ppm colour for the IX4000 and 25 ppm mono /17 ppm colour for the IX5000 As speed is not that much of an issue for me I think I'll save £50 and buy the IX4000. Hey... I lack any data to argue with you on this... you logic is sound. The greater model could have better motors or longer life, but... without any evidence to support this I wouldn't spend the extra £50. I also asked if t would be possible to repair my old BJC6500 but the cost of sending an engineer + buying the parts outweighs the cost of a new machine. You should share with the group what issues you are having with the BJC6500. I mean, if it doesn't work at all it might be worth picking up... what is it called, the QH3-3332-000 power supply. That should be the 240V model. There is always the issue of where the printer works and doesn't spew ink, which is likely to be a head issue, where the color head would probally run 50 to 70quid. If color resolution wasn't a worry, i'd consider it. http://cgi.ebay.com/Canon-BJC6000-Pr...QQcmdZViewItem But really, the uk is like the states in this regard, cost of labor tends to be greater than the cost of a new unit. Used or referbished units on the other hand... I could get a bjc-6000 in the states for about USD$200. Text resolution has NOT improved for canons in some time, it was pretty good before and continues to be pretty good. |
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There are 2 faults that are happening although one may be a consequence
of the other, they a 1) Paper does not load - when the printer is switched on the motors start and the thing springs to life (as it always has) then it treis to load the paper and on most occasions nothing happens Looking without the covers on the transport roller does not move to pick up the paper. On the odd occasion the paper does get picked up (with my help) it feeds through the printer and out the other end. 2) After a while the printer beeps 6 times which is an indication of a cartridge fault. I've changed all 4 cartridges & re-seated the print heads but this has no effect. Kev zakezuke wrote: alphawave wrote: I used the BJC6500 for CAD drawings - So, mostly black line drawings with a little splash of colour for notes, dimensions, logos etc and the odd shaded view - so nothing too challenging graphically and yes the Black photo cart is not an issue. If you were happy before, there is no reason you wouldn't be happy now. Keep in mind on the lesser ip3000, if you selected anything other than plain paper it would use cyan magenta and yellow to make black, but given we are talking CAD this is likely what you want. Sharp high contrast dence lines. I lack experence with the ix4000/ix5000, but based on the specs it seems to be a wide model based on the older ip3000. I think it must treat the lines as text and print them from the black cart rather than mixing CMY. Yes, on lesser canons it's documented oriented, as in it's either text black, or dye black, and if no dye black mix colors to make dye black. The individual carts are a must as one colour usually runs out way before the others. This is fair comment... though I don't spend too much on ink for my stylus 1520 tri-color tank, so this is a non issue. It's true my volume is only that of the color I use the most, but the rest, well the rest while it does get tossed I don't feel I lose money as otherwise i'd be shelling out more money for three tanks, and in the case of epson the cleaning cycles swapping cartridges are so much that if it took individual tanks, i'd swap them all at the same time. Consumer canons are different in this regard, these guys I have no issues swapping out tanks one at a time. I have spoken to Canon about the difference between the IX4000 and IX5000 and the only difference is the print speed. 18 ppm mono /14ppm colour for the IX4000 and 25 ppm mono /17 ppm colour for the IX5000 As speed is not that much of an issue for me I think I'll save £50 and buy the IX4000. Hey... I lack any data to argue with you on this... you logic is sound. The greater model could have better motors or longer life, but... without any evidence to support this I wouldn't spend the extra £50. I also asked if t would be possible to repair my old BJC6500 but the cost of sending an engineer + buying the parts outweighs the cost of a new machine. You should share with the group what issues you are having with the BJC6500. I mean, if it doesn't work at all it might be worth picking up... what is it called, the QH3-3332-000 power supply. That should be the 240V model. There is always the issue of where the printer works and doesn't spew ink, which is likely to be a head issue, where the color head would probally run 50 to 70quid. If color resolution wasn't a worry, i'd consider it. http://cgi.ebay.com/Canon-BJC6000-Pr...QQcmdZViewItem But really, the uk is like the states in this regard, cost of labor tends to be greater than the cost of a new unit. Used or referbished units on the other hand... I could get a bjc-6000 in the states for about USD$200. Text resolution has NOT improved for canons in some time, it was pretty good before and continues to be pretty good. |
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