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correct as always.
he has been plonk'ed. but would like to know how he has managed to make whole house grounding portable for a laptop user "S.Lewis" wrote in message ... "Christopher Muto" wrote in message t... thanks bud, nice to know that someone out there can read snip Not to butt in, but you knew where this was headed when Mr. Whole House Grounding entered the thread. I shall now exit as abruptly as I entered the thread......... ;-) |
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Christopher Muto wrote:
correct as always. he has been plonk'ed. but would like to know how he has managed to make whole house grounding portable for a laptop user Well now you've killfiled him, you'll never know! |
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On Jan 6, 11:00 am, bud-- wrote:
The village idiot repeats the lie. So again Bud posts denigrating replies rather than ... where is that numeric spec that claims protection? Oh. No number exists. No wonder those who actually need protection - every telco in the world - don't use Bud's recommendation. Even Bud's own citations show why his recommendations are not used. Page 42 Figure 8 of that IEEE guide - the adjacent TV is damaged because the protector did not and could not earth the spike. NIST (Adobe page 19 of 24) says: A very important point to keep in mind is that your surge protector will work by diverting the surges to ground. The best surge protection in the world can be useless if grounding is not done properly. Even the manufacturer will not claim plug-in protectors provide effective protection. No wonder Bud again refuses to provide those spec numbers. No wonder Bud's only proof is to belittle others. But that is Bud's purpose. Protect those massive profit margins on ineffective plug-in protectors. Lie, deceive, and malign to protect obscene profits; as any good sales promoter would do. When effective protection is required, the protector connects short (ie 'less than 10 foot') to earth ground. A protector is only as effective as what provides the protection - what dissipates energy - earth ground. My troll Bud (who follows me everywhere) must keep posting to get the last reply. Obscene profits are at risk. So where are those manufacturer numbers that claim protection? Never provided. Buf cannot provide what never existed. |
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On Jan 7, 10:24*am, bud-- wrote:
The village idiot still can't find what Christopher posted. Or refuses to find. w_ is a fan of Josef Goebbels and thinks if you repeat the lies often enough, people will believe it. Again the sales promoter with no engineering training refuses to post a single manufacturer spec that claims protection. He does cite the IEEE and NIST citations - that both describe why Bud's obscenely profitable plug-in protectors can even earth surge 8000 volts destructively through an adjacent appliance. Even his NIST citation says a protector without earthing in not effective. So how does Bud promoter ineffective plug-in protectors? Even every telco everywhere in the world does not waste money on Bud's protectors. Bud cannot even post a single manufacturer spec that claims protection. So Bud posts insults. Bud will post incessently to even get the last post. Profits are at risk if you learn the scam promoted by Bud. Where is that manufacturer spec? A plug-in protector does not even claim to provide that protection. But it sure is profitable. Honesty is not Bud. The informed consumer does what every telco does everywhere in the world. Simply earth one 'whole house' protector. Scam protector manufacturers do not make 'whole house' protectors. Profit margin on effective solutions is too low. Profits are higher when lying, selling a scam, and posting insults. Where is that manufacturer spec number that claims protection? |
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Evidently, westom1, you are the idiot. For the amount of time you have
spend spewing garbage in these forums, you should have gone and looked up the answers, or called the companies. Nobody is going to be able to satisfy you, even with full documentation, so go along on your merry way. wrote in message ... On Jan 7, 10:24 am, bud-- wrote: The village idiot still can't find what Christopher posted. Or refuses to find. w_ is a fan of Josef Goebbels and thinks if you repeat the lies often enough, people will believe it. Again the sales promoter with no engineering training refuses to post a single manufacturer spec that claims protection. He does cite the IEEE and NIST citations - that both describe why Bud's obscenely profitable plug-in protectors can even earth surge 8000 volts destructively through an adjacent appliance. Even his NIST citation says a protector without earthing in not effective. So how does Bud promoter ineffective plug-in protectors? Even every telco everywhere in the world does not waste money on Bud's protectors. Bud cannot even post a single manufacturer spec that claims protection. So Bud posts insults. Bud will post incessently to even get the last post. Profits are at risk if you learn the scam promoted by Bud. Where is that manufacturer spec? A plug-in protector does not even claim to provide that protection. But it sure is profitable. Honesty is not Bud. The informed consumer does what every telco does everywhere in the world. Simply earth one 'whole house' protector. Scam protector manufacturers do not make 'whole house' protectors. Profit margin on effective solutions is too low. Profits are higher when lying, selling a scam, and posting insults. Where is that manufacturer spec number that claims protection? |
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On Jan 7, 11:55*am, "John Novicki Jr" wrote:
Evidently,westom1, you are the idiot. *For the amount of time you have spend spewing garbage in these forums, you should have gone and looked up the answers, or called the companies. How curious. Unlike you and Bud, I even designed these things. Since you know plug-in protectors provide protection - somehow stops what three miles of sky could not - then John could have provided those numbers. No? Instead you insult? Insults mean you know without first learning facts. Insults mean you don't really know. Why do I ask for those spec numbers? Because I know those numbers do not exist. But then I did this stuff even decades ago. Why do you post insults? Once challlenged to prove your claim with numbers, you cannot. Even the manufacturer does not make that protection claim. So you can only insult. Where are those manufacturer numbers that claim protection from typically destructive surges? How does a protector without that short connection to earth absorb energy that even three miles of sky could not stop? Please - enlighten us without insults. What is that energy number that claims to absorb destructive surges? How does that 'less than one inch' part stop what three miles of sky could not? What does it say about you when you post insults AND do not provide those spec numbers? Christorpher Muto said: generic 'power strips' do little if anything to protect computers. Christopher's APC and Tripplite protectors contain the same protection circuits AND provide the same protection numbers. What does a $25 or $150 protector do that a $10 protector with the same circuit cannot? It gets promoted by myths only because it is more expensive? Christopher also was asked to post that protection number. Since Christopher did not even know which number defines protection, then he had to avoid posting any numbers. He even claimed numbers were mysterously hidden somewhere in a sales brochure. Eventually Christopher had to do what John and Bud now do: post insults. Effective protection means a protector connects short (ie 'less than 10 feet') to earth. From Bud's NIST citation: A very important point to keep in mind is that your surge protector will work by diverting the surges to ground. The best surge protection in the world can be useless if grounding is not done properly. Without that short earthing connectioning, APC and Tripplite protectors mean no effective protection. How does a laptop and everything in a building get protected? Spend tens or 100 times less money for effective solutions from responsible companies such as Siemens, Leviton, Intermatic, General Electric, Square D, Keison, Cutler-Hammer, etc. How curious. One who actually does this stuff only lists responsible companies AND says WHY a 'whole hosue' protector is used by every telco all over world world. Earthed protectors were used by telcos even 100 years ago. Telcos do not use plug-in protectors. Telcos need real world protection. A protector is only as effective as its earth ground. Sources for effective protectors even provided. But then someone here even designed this stuff decades ago. |
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On Jan 8, 11:14*am, bud-- wrote:
Ho-hum. The same lies. The same drivel. More insults because Bud cannot post numeric specs. Somehow his obscenely overpriced protector will make spike energy disappear. More expensive means it is better? Even his own citations define the effective protector earthing spikes; dissipating destructive surge harmlessly in earth. Bud does not explain how his protectors without earthing makes spikes disappear. Provided were many responsible manufacturers who sell effective protection. So that protection inside the laptop is not overwhelmed. Bud still refuses to post that manufacture spec that lists each type of surge and protection from that surge. Bud cannot post numbers because no plug-in protector claims to protect from type of surges that cause damage. Every telco in their every facility uses the 'whole house' protector. A protector is only as effective as its earth ground. Bud's high profit protectors have no earth ground. No earth ground means no effective protection. No wonder Bud refuses to provide specs that define protection. Instead, he posts more insults to always get the last post. |
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