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GET RID OF MR. BIOS
Hi Gang !
Does anyone know how to get this g*&^#(&#@(DAM piece of S&$t sonof a bitchin I can't stand it anymore no good for nothing I wish I had never seen it and I'm about to break a lot of stuff Mr. BIOS damn BIOS out of my Packard Bell ? It won't let me reflash back to a PB BIOS, and I'm about to break a lot of stuff. bobwatts |
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On Jul 13, 2:11 pm, "Robert E. Watts" wrote:
Hi Gang ! Does anyone know how to get this g*&^#(&#@(DAM piece of S&$t sonof a bitchin I can't stand it anymore no good for nothing I wish I had never seen it and I'm about to break a lot of stuff Mr. BIOS damn BIOS out of my Packard Bell ? It won't let me reflash back to a PB BIOS, and I'm about to break a lot of stuff. bobwatts So you just learned that MR BIOS only allows MR BIOS for updates Probably have a bios chip that is soldered not socketed. If so that also really sucks Can you reflash with the original MR BIOS. Need to know this as it turns little wheels in my brain I also need to see the floppy and what ever you originally used.. It may be possible to fool the flash with the PB flash Maybe not. Some times it can be done through boot block I am assuming the bios is cleared first in totality. This is normal so the sum check equals the flash size. It does not have to do this if the bios writer is really smart. In any case need to know he MB any files to chargerrtex at yahoo.com You know the risks Also I have a modified by me bios for the 450 MB that supports larger HD's It was my first attempt in altering code It actually worked |
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GET RID OF MR. BIOS
Hi Met !
"metronid" wrote in message news:411f27da-9666-4d07-ae80- So you just learned that MR BIOS only allows MR BIOS for updates Yep. Can't do a damn thing with it now. Probably have a bios chip that is soldered not socketed. If so that also really sucks Sure. Soldered on. Of course. Can you reflash with the original MR BIOS. Need to know this as it turns little wheels in my brain Nope. Refuses to recognise the BIOS now. Claims it can no longer do a damn thing with it. I also need to see the floppy and what ever you originally used.. It may be possible to fool the flash with the PB flash Maybe not. I tried for hours. Using Iflash, Intel Iflash, and various hacker flash programs. Those get scary. And the real reason I got stopped, is because of the BIZZARE way of flashing a BIOS that Packard Bell uses. Anybodydamnelse uses a .bin file of 256k or 512k ( or whatever ). PB chops the damn BIOS files into at least 8 segments that no BIOS flash program ( that *I* know of ) can do a damn thing with. Can you tell this really ****ed me off ? Some times it can be done through boot block I am assuming the bios is cleared first in totality. This is normal so the sum check equals the flash size. It does not have to do this if the bios writer is really smart. In any case need to know he MB any files to chargerrtex at yahoo.com You're assuming that I haven't reduced that MB to rubble ? Actually, I'm considering laying it on a train track. No, I won't do that. It's perfectly useable, I just wanted to go back to the PB BIOS, because I have a suspicion that the Mr. BIOS BIOS is slowing the MB down. I have two practically identical PB ( same MB, mem, HDD, etc. ) and the other one "seems" much faster. And the bitch of it is : this is one of my rare and coveted 256K L2 cache boards. You know the risks Fully aware of the risks. That is why I haven't done anything stupid yet. I'll probably just leave it Mr. BIOS BIOS. I have another MB coming from eBay that *I think* is the same. No exact communication from seller, I'm going from the picture. We'll see. Also I have a modified by me bios for the 450 MB that supports larger HD's It was my first attempt in altering code It actually worked Nice. Few people can write/alter code. Thanks for the reply, and the files that you sent me last week. Hope the vacation was fun ! bobwatts -- boBWatts®© EartH Watts Carburetion Service Whizzbang Computers Official collector of: transfat asian plastic junk trinkets ! |
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Intel also chopped up its BIOS image into 4 segments. PB was not alone. And if
PB happened to use an Intel-made board, well, the BIOS image would be chopped into 4 pieces. Intel did this with most of its boards through the P3 ones, IIRC... Ben Myers On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:20:47 -0400, "Robert E. Watts" wrote: Hi Met ! "metronid" wrote in message news:411f27da-9666-4d07-ae80- So you just learned that MR BIOS only allows MR BIOS for updates Yep. Can't do a damn thing with it now. Probably have a bios chip that is soldered not socketed. If so that also really sucks Sure. Soldered on. Of course. Can you reflash with the original MR BIOS. Need to know this as it turns little wheels in my brain Nope. Refuses to recognise the BIOS now. Claims it can no longer do a damn thing with it. I also need to see the floppy and what ever you originally used.. It may be possible to fool the flash with the PB flash Maybe not. I tried for hours. Using Iflash, Intel Iflash, and various hacker flash programs. Those get scary. And the real reason I got stopped, is because of the BIZZARE way of flashing a BIOS that Packard Bell uses. Anybodydamnelse uses a .bin file of 256k or 512k ( or whatever ). PB chops the damn BIOS files into at least 8 segments that no BIOS flash program ( that *I* know of ) can do a damn thing with. Can you tell this really ****ed me off ? Some times it can be done through boot block I am assuming the bios is cleared first in totality. This is normal so the sum check equals the flash size. It does not have to do this if the bios writer is really smart. In any case need to know he MB any files to chargerrtex at yahoo.com You're assuming that I haven't reduced that MB to rubble ? Actually, I'm considering laying it on a train track. No, I won't do that. It's perfectly useable, I just wanted to go back to the PB BIOS, because I have a suspicion that the Mr. BIOS BIOS is slowing the MB down. I have two practically identical PB ( same MB, mem, HDD, etc. ) and the other one "seems" much faster. And the bitch of it is : this is one of my rare and coveted 256K L2 cache boards. You know the risks Fully aware of the risks. That is why I haven't done anything stupid yet. I'll probably just leave it Mr. BIOS BIOS. I have another MB coming from eBay that *I think* is the same. No exact communication from seller, I'm going from the picture. We'll see. Also I have a modified by me bios for the 450 MB that supports larger HD's It was my first attempt in altering code It actually worked Nice. Few people can write/alter code. Thanks for the reply, and the files that you sent me last week. Hope the vacation was fun ! bobwatts |
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Hi Ben !
"Ben Myers" wrote in message ... Intel also chopped up its BIOS image into 4 segments. PB was not alone. And if PB happened to use an Intel-made board, well, the BIOS image would be chopped into 4 pieces. Intel did this with most of its boards through the P3 ones, IIRC... Ben Myers As usual, you are right. Most of my PB's have Intel boards, and basically use the Iflash Intel method. I wish I had been paying attention before flashing to the Mr. BIOS. Chances are I would have done it anyway to run the Evergreen 400MHz CPU upgrade. But the irony is right after I set the board up, ostensibly to ultimately install into a 'corner, I removed the CPU and re-installed an Intel CPU. There is no question the Mr. BIOS has an extensive array of enhancements and options. Staggering almost actually. ( but for "purists" reasons, I want the PB BIOS logo. :-) I really wasn't that impressed with the upgrade, and feel the "regular" board with an Intel 233MHz MMX CPU runs about as good. Benchmarks sometimes don't tell the whole story. I have computers that have "lesser" components than others that "feel" faster. In any event, I'll reinstall the Evergreen, and let it go at that. Wasn't using it for anything anyway. bob |
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Hi Bob
I've been watching this post with interest as I am faced with the same situation. I did the Mr. BIOS bios upgrade on not one but two of the 4 68x Orlando boards I have... the ones with alll options. I have one of them with the Powerleap adapter and the 400 mhz (actually registers 397 mhz) processor. Well I never really noticed any "great" advantage over the same board with just the 233 mhz and stock PB BIOS. Actually the 233 mhz board I found runs better than the 400 mhz board with the XP OS. Not great, but definately better. Go figure. I too would like to uninstall the Mr. BIOS bios on one of them and get back to the PB BIOS, but unfortunately over the years moves and miles I do not have the flash uninstall diskette that I created. I was thinking of doing the Mr. BIOS flash to one of the numerous lesser 68x boards that I have only to get the uninstall diskette. If things continue with no positive results, Bob I think I will do that and if the board that you are referencing is the 68x Orlando, will get you the diskette. Bill |
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Hi Bill !
( inserting comments as I go, as usual.... :-) wrote in message ... Hi Bob I've been watching this post with interest as I am faced with the same situation. I did the Mr. BIOS bios upgrade on not one but two of the 4 68x Orlando boards I have... the ones with alll options. I have one of them with the Powerleap adapter and the 400 mhz (actually registers 397 mhz) processor. Well I never really noticed any "great" advantage over the same board with just the 233 mhz and stock PB BIOS. Me either. Matter of fact, I don't think there *is* an improvement. And there really should be. A K6-2 400 should be noticeably "better" than a 233MHz Intel. Actually the 233 mhz board I found runs better than the 400 mhz board with the XP OS. Not great, but definately better. Go figure. Don't need to figure. :-) Have found this to be true, and agree. Which is why I want to go back to my old PB BIOS, and Intel CPU. I too would like to uninstall the Mr. BIOS bios on one of them and get back to the PB BIOS, but unfortunately over the years moves and miles I do not have the flash uninstall diskette that I created. I actually have the box that the Evergreen upgrade came in, with two kits in there. Have all the disks, but for whatever reason, the Mr. BIOS flash uninstall diskette that *I* made will not work. The present Mr. BIOS will not allow any re-flashing of the BIOS. The saved BIOS that is on that disk is "not available", even though I can see it when I look at the disk. Going through the menu, using the MR. BIOS stuff , the option to uninstall the Mr. BIOS option is greyed out. I was going to try and reflash the BIOS using some hacker BIOS flashing stuff I found, but when I investigated the goofy PB BIOS files, I realized that no flash program is going to use it chopped up like that. You did however give me an idea, I might be able to take the saved BIOS from the Mr. BIOS diskette, and use that. Doubtful. I was thinking of doing the Mr. BIOS flash to one of the numerous lesser 68x boards that I have only to get the uninstall diskette. If things continue with no positive results, Bob I think I will do that and if the board that you are referencing is the 68x Orlando, will get you the diskette. Well, I wish you luck. Frankly, I am resigned to leaving this particular board alone. It's fully functional, and playing with the BIOS like this can result in a useless board if something goes wrong. I'm hoping that a "replacement" board shows up in the mail, and I'll just leave this one alone. And what the hell, maybe I'll play with all the options available in the BIOS someday. I haven't really investigated it that much. I know there is no extra "performance" in there, but there are some interesting options I haven't played with. I think. :-) Getting a bit concerned that I have not even heard from the seller. Maybe he is just one of those guys who simply mails stuff ( someday ) without communication. I just hope the board is packaged well. Aggravated. bob |
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On Jul 18, 6:04*am, "Robert E. Watts" wrote:
Hi Bill ! ( inserting comments as I go, as usual.... * :-) wrote in message ... Hi Bob * * *I've been watching this post with interest as I am faced with the same situation. I did the Mr. BIOS bios upgrade on not one but two of the *4 68x Orlando boards I have... the ones with alll options. I have one of them with the Powerleap adapter and the 400 mhz (actually registers 397 mhz) processor. Well I never really noticed any "great" advantage over the same board with just the 233 mhz and stock PB BIOS. Me either. Matter of fact, I don't think there *is* an improvement. And there really should be. A K6-2 400 should be noticeably "better" than a 233MHz Intel. Actually the 233 mhz board I found runs better than the 400 mhz board with the XP OS. Not great, but definately better. Go figure. Don't need to figure. *:-) Have found this to be true, and agree. Which is why I want to go back to my old PB BIOS, and Intel CPU. * * *I too would like to uninstall the Mr. BIOS bios on one of them and get back to the PB BIOS, but unfortunately over the years *moves and miles I do not have the flash uninstall diskette that I created. I actually have the box that the Evergreen upgrade came in, with two kits in there. Have all the disks, but for whatever reason, the Mr. BIOS flash uninstall diskette that *I* made will not work. The present Mr. BIOS will not allow any re-flashing of the BIOS. The saved BIOS that is on that disk is "not available", even though I can see it when I look at the disk. Going through the menu, using the MR. BIOS stuff , the option to uninstall the Mr. BIOS option is greyed out. I was going to try and reflash the BIOS using some hacker BIOS flashing stuff I found, but when I investigated the goofy PB BIOS files, I realized that no flash program is going to use it chopped up like that. You did however give me an idea, I might be able to take the saved BIOS from the Mr. BIOS diskette, and use that. Doubtful. I was thinking of doing the Mr. BIOS flash to one of the numerous lesser 68x boards that I have only to *get the uninstall diskette. If *things continue with no positive results, Bob I think I will do that and if the board that you are referencing is the 68x Orlando, will get you the diskette. Well, I wish you luck. Frankly, I am resigned to leaving this particular board alone. It's fully functional, and playing with the BIOS like this can result in a useless board if something goes wrong. I'm hoping that a "replacement" board shows up in the mail, and I'll just leave this one alone. And what the hell, maybe I'll play with all the options available in the BIOS someday. I haven't really investigated it that much. I know there is no extra "performance" in there, but there are some interesting options I haven't played with. I think. *:-) Getting a bit concerned that I have not even heard from the seller. Maybe he is just one of those guys who simply mails stuff ( someday ) without communication. I just hope the board is packaged well. Aggravated. bob I was searching google for 'BIOS reset', so my question would be...does playing around with the battery jumpers work in restting the BIOS to a default setting? mc |
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On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:56:48 -0700 (PDT), mc wrote:
SNIP I was searching google for 'BIOS reset', so my question would be...does playing around with the battery jumpers work in restting the BIOS to a default setting? mc The CMOS battery is responsible for the integrity of system configuration data. If the battery is removed or the motherboard jumper is set to reset the CMOS, then the system configuration data becomes in-valid, and needs to be re-entered. The BIOS code itself needs to be changed with a program that knows how to do so... Ben Myers |
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BIOS and you
Hi mc !
"mc" wrote in message news:4d506492-0218-49fc-8d4a- I was searching google for 'BIOS reset', so my question would be...does playing around with the battery jumpers work in restting the BIOS to a default setting? mc Yes, you are absolutely right. If you short across certain jumpers, or remove the CMOS battery ( for awhile ), this will return the BIOS to a default setting. However, that is not the real issue with this message posting. As Ben has already mentioned, Bill and I want to return our BIOS *programming* to the original code. We "flashed" our BIOS which changed it, and we want to return it to the factory original. So *resetting* the BIOS will only result in returning the BIOS to default setting as it is programmed. It will not return it to original programming. OK ? bob -- boBWatts®© EartH Watts Carburetion Service Whizzbang Computers Official collector of: transfat asian plastic junk trinkets ! |
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