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someone told me, that when building a pc...a thermal compound usually
comes with the heat sink..either a compound or a pad....he said that i should buy my own compound...remove the one that was supplied and put the new one in....i am not sure how necessary this is...as from intel...i would excpect a compound or pad that is efficient enough....does anyone have any experience with this....or opinions or suggestions....i am leaning towards leaving the supplied one there..but just changing it after a year or so....wat is your take on this guys..an gals... |
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no need to 'touch' the pad or to touch it in a year or 4 years or 6
years........... never have done this (unless I was upgrading the CPU). for instance this P4B266 system has never been fooled with after its debut in 2001, other than a cleaning. Temps are not even worth mentioning, as they are as average as it can get. "sdot" wrote in message oups.com... someone told me, that when building a pc...a thermal compound usually comes with the heat sink..either a compound or a pad....he said that i should buy my own compound...remove the one that was supplied and put the new one in....i am not sure how necessary this is...as from intel...i would excpect a compound or pad that is efficient enough....does anyone have any experience with this....or opinions or suggestions....i am leaning towards leaving the supplied one there..but just changing it after a year or so....wat is your take on this guys..an gals... |
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"sdot" wrote in message oups.com... someone told me, that when building a pc...a thermal compound usually comes with the heat sink..either a compound or a pad....he said that i should buy my own compound...remove the one that was supplied and put the new one in....i am not sure how necessary this is...as from intel...i would excpect a compound or pad that is efficient enough....does anyone have any experience with this....or opinions or suggestions....i am leaning towards leaving the supplied one there..but just changing it after a year or so....wat is your take on this guys..an gals... Go with the compound. Even the best costs very little, around $12 for enough to do many CPU's. Most newer P4 Prescotts run hot, and a good compound will cool the CPU several deg. C lower than the strip that comes on a stock HSF. Every little bit helps. If you do a lot of gaming or heavy graphics work, you might consider an aftermarket HSF. That costs a bit more, usually around $35 for a good one. To my knowledge, Arctic Silver 5 is the best available now. Follow the installation instructions on their site, and remember that a little goes a long way. Their instructions for the Socket 478 P4 is to start with a dab "the size of half a BB." It's been a while since I've seen a BB, guys, but that's pretty small. IOW, don't glob it on. |
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On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 14:35:49 -0600, "Bob Davis"
wrote: "sdot" wrote in message roups.com... someone told me, that when building a pc...a thermal compound usually comes with the heat sink..either a compound or a pad....he said that i should buy my own compound...remove the one that was supplied and put the new one in....i am not sure how necessary this is...as from intel...i would excpect a compound or pad that is efficient enough....does anyone have any experience with this....or opinions or suggestions....i am leaning towards leaving the supplied one there..but just changing it after a year or so....wat is your take on this guys..an gals... Go with the compound. Even the best costs very little, around $12 for enough to do many CPU's. Most newer P4 Prescotts run hot, and a good compound will cool the CPU several deg. C lower than the strip that comes on a stock HSF. Every little bit helps. If you do a lot of gaming or heavy graphics work, you might consider an aftermarket HSF. That costs a bit more, usually around $35 for a good one. To my knowledge, Arctic Silver 5 is the best available now. Follow the installation instructions on their site, and remember that a little goes a long way. Their instructions for the Socket 478 P4 is to start with a dab "the size of half a BB." It's been a while since I've seen a BB, guys, but that's pretty small. IOW, don't glob it on. I replaced the thermal pad on my AMD with Arctic Silver and the difference is about 5 degrees C. Charlie |
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"Charlie Wilkes" wrote in message ... I replaced the thermal pad on my AMD with Arctic Silver and the difference is about 5 degrees C. That's a great improvement for that money, IMO. |
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not taking into account the probability of a screw up
"Bob Davis" wrote in message news:TQ0Wf.1740$IG.1211@dukeread01... "Charlie Wilkes" wrote in message ... I replaced the thermal pad on my AMD with Arctic Silver and the difference is about 5 degrees C. That's a great improvement for that money, IMO. |
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On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 20:04:35 -0600, "Bob Davis"
wrote: "Charlie Wilkes" wrote in message .. . I replaced the thermal pad on my AMD with Arctic Silver and the difference is about 5 degrees C. That's a great improvement for that money, IMO. Yeah, it's huge relative to the dollars spent. Good thermal compound is a no-brainer. I like to go long on the basics and short on the crap, like mini-skyscraper heat sinks with colored fluid heat pumps. I wouldn't mind building a pimp machine for someone else, though. I could see if being fun, if it was someone else's money. Charlie |
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sdot wrote: someone told me, that when building a pc...a thermal compound usually comes with the heat sink..either a compound or a pad....he said that i should buy my own compound...remove the one that was supplied and put the new one in....i am not sure how necessary this is...as from intel...i would excpect a compound or pad that is efficient enough....does anyone have any experience with this.... If you bought a combination CPU and heatsink covered by the CPU maker's warranty, use the thermal conductant they included or else you may void the warranty. AMD, for example, requires use of a phase-change compound (much more viscous than any thermal grease, like clay) to maintain warranty. The worst thermal conductors usually are thermal pads made of rubber and thermal tape, probably because they're so thick, but as long as the CPU stays at least 5C below its maximum (preferrably at least 10C) under worst-case conditions, there's no reason to use anything else. The important factor is to keep things cool enough, not to achieve the lowest temperature possible, and unless you're overclocking, there's absolutely no benefit to cooling a processor from 60C down to 40C. It's more important to keep other components cool, such as hard drives and electrolytic capacitors located next to hot coils or MOSFETs. The best solution to hot electrolytics is to replace any from Taiwan or Chinese manufacturers with those from Japanese companies, but blowing air over the MOSFETs is helpful. |
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Maximum PC magazine recently tested all this stuff and found out the stuff
that comes in the little plastic bags is just as good as anything else in real world applications. There was a measurable difference between the various products but not enough to make any difference in how the computer runs. Their recommendation is to go with whatever came with the CPU/Cooler. wrote in message oups.com... sdot wrote: someone told me, that when building a pc...a thermal compound usually comes with the heat sink..either a compound or a pad....he said that i should buy my own compound...remove the one that was supplied and put the new one in....i am not sure how necessary this is...as from intel...i would excpect a compound or pad that is efficient enough....does anyone have any experience with this.... If you bought a combination CPU and heatsink covered by the CPU maker's warranty, use the thermal conductant they included or else you may void the warranty. AMD, for example, requires use of a phase-change compound (much more viscous than any thermal grease, like clay) to maintain warranty. The worst thermal conductors usually are thermal pads made of rubber and thermal tape, probably because they're so thick, but as long as the CPU stays at least 5C below its maximum (preferrably at least 10C) under worst-case conditions, there's no reason to use anything else. The important factor is to keep things cool enough, not to achieve the lowest temperature possible, and unless you're overclocking, there's absolutely no benefit to cooling a processor from 60C down to 40C. It's more important to keep other components cool, such as hard drives and electrolytic capacitors located next to hot coils or MOSFETs. The best solution to hot electrolytics is to replace any from Taiwan or Chinese manufacturers with those from Japanese companies, but blowing air over the MOSFETs is helpful. |
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"Charlie Wilkes" wrote in message ... Yeah, it's huge relative to the dollars spent. Good thermal compound is a no-brainer. I like to go long on the basics and short on the crap, like mini-skyscraper heat sinks with colored fluid heat pumps. I wouldn't mind building a pimp machine for someone else, though. I could see if being fun, if it was someone else's money. I'm in your camp, and to me visual appeal is the last priority. No LED lights or gizmos in this box, and just one look reveals the appeal of appearance. The black case with biege peripherals is a dead giveaway. I did build one for a friend, though, who got off on LED's and a plexiglass side cover. Kind of cool if you're into it, I guess, but in my office you can't see any of that anyway where the box is located. Plus, why load down the PSU with this crap, even if the extra stress is small? |
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