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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 19:57:46 +0100, "I.C. Koets"
wrote: The very first thing you should do is update the BIOS. Many of the newer boards are manufactured with just the very basic in features. The full use of the board comes into play with a BIOS upgrade. I already did. It doesn't seem to help. Okay...then let's hit it...one step at a time... I built myself a new PC: Asus P5GD1 motherboard (Intel 915P chipset) 2 WD harddisks, a NEC dvd/cd rw What's the IDE configuration? Make sure the jumpers are set correctly...especially on the WD's. Check to see what drive letters they've been given. Change the NEC to W. Nvidia GeForce 6200 video card (PCIx) Hauppauge WinTV Go! TV card I installed W98se on it. All components' manufacturers claim their component is supported in W98se, and I have looked up all appropriate drivers. So you installed NEW drivers for everything? Is there anything that didn't work from the git go? The problem is that the drivers will not install. If it ain't broke...don't fix it. Its not absolutely to install the latest drivers if things are running properly. What not running properly? When I run the setup program of the chipset (supplied by Intel) I get the error message that no Intel chipset is found on my pc. It then fails to install any component. Even manual installation of the .inf files by using the -a -a switch on the setup program, and then forcing the computer to accept from me it has hardware that needs these drivers, results in no shown components in the Device Manager after reboot. They just won't install. I don't know yer level of expertise...and I'm not there...so... Are you sure of what you have on the board?...what brand it REALLY is, etc. Run AIDA32...so that you have the current specs on all the hardware. Do a report and save it. Again, a highly similar problem when installing my videocard. I run the setup program, and it runs until it aborts with an error message saying I don't have a Nvidia card. I'm therefore stuck in crappy VGA. Do you have on-board video?...an add-on card?...or both. Also, try doing a 'new hardware' search. What is going on? And more importantly, what can I do about it? Let's try to solve your MAJOR problems first...then we can hit the annoyances. What ISN'T working? Video, I'm guessing. What else? Did you install the drivers for your monitor? Sometimes that'll bring the video card into sync. Good luck...let us know. Have a nice one... Trentİ Budweiser: Helping ugly people have sex since 1876! |
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"Shepİ" wrote: Many of the newer boards are manufactured with just the very basic in features. The full use of the board comes into play with a BIOS upgrade. I already did. It doesn't seem to help. The win98 Install was corrupted. How can you tell? It shows no other signs of corruption, and the System File Checker gives no problems. Do a correct,"Over-install/Repair" as per, http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/repair.html I'll keep it in mind though! I the problem continues look to a faulty RAM stick. Motherboard tests RAM as OK. Never had any errors with it. Don't! use software ram programs that you can download off the net as they are useless. No problem. Just take a stick out and use the other and vice versa even in different slots. I tried, so far no luck. Also suspect the actual Win98 CD being damaged or having finger prints on it.You can clean it in the sink with a bit of washing up liquid and luke warm water and then dry off with some lint free tissue. I always kept it clean, it isn't damaged and doesn't give read errors. I will try cleaning it and using another copy if the need to reinstall manifests itself. Thank you. |
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"Trentİ" wrote: Okay...then let's hit it...one step at a time... I built myself a new PC: Asus P5GD1 motherboard (Intel 915P chipset) 2 WD harddisks, a NEC dvd/cd rw What's the IDE configuration? One WD1600 SATA on SATA1, on IDE1 I have my WD 2000 as master and the optical drive as slave. My motherboard is set to pretend the SATA disk is the secondary master. Make sure the jumpers are set correctly...especially on the WD's. Checked. In order, and swapping them around doesn't improve anything. Check to see what drive letters they've been given. Change the NEC to W. Done. But why? Nvidia GeForce 6200 video card (PCIx) Hauppauge WinTV Go! TV card I installed W98se on it. All components' manufacturers claim their component is supported in W98se, and I have looked up all appropriate drivers. So you installed NEW drivers for everything? Is there anything that didn't work from the git go? I first tried to see if Windows came up with working PnP drivers. It didn't. Then I installed the drivers from the disks I got with the components. That gave me no results, as I described in the initial post. Then I downloaded the latest W98se drivers (getting scarce!) with no extra luck. The problem is that the drivers will not install. If it ain't broke...don't fix it. Its not absolutely to install the latest drivers if things are running properly. What not running properly? Videocard is not detected and only displays VGA, no sound (onboard sound drivers are part of the chipset drivers) network somehow only runs if I use the DOS drivers TV card not detected, drivers also won't install Rather annoying, all in all. When I run the setup program of the chipset (supplied by Intel) I get the error message that no Intel chipset is found on my pc. It then fails to install any component. Even manual installation of the .inf files by using the -a -a switch on the setup program, and then forcing the computer to accept from me it has hardware that needs these drivers, results in no shown components in the Device Manager after reboot. They just won't install. I don't know yer level of expertise...and I'm not there...so... My expertise is mottled. I have some knowledge interspersed with vast areas of ignorance. I'm the kind of guy that tinkers with other peoples broken computers and fixes them without any actual knowledge beforehand. I try to get a clue while doing it. Are you sure of what you have on the board?...what brand it REALLY is, etc. Run AIDA32...so that you have the current specs on all the hardware. Do a report and save it. Done! (Nice program, by the way.) It doesn't give me a lot of extra information. It identifies my video card as Generic VGA, for instance. Not highly inspiring. The report is 182 KB, so I won't post it right now. Again, a highly similar problem when installing my videocard. I run the setup program, and it runs until it aborts with an error message saying I don't have a Nvidia card. I'm therefore stuck in crappy VGA. Do you have on-board video?...an add-on card?...or both. No onboard video, but 1 add-on PCIx card. Also, try doing a 'new hardware' search. I must have done that a zillion times now. Everytime I changed a jumper, swapped my RAM around in the slots, changed a single BIOS setting... Never any joy. What is going on? And more importantly, what can I do about it? Let's try to solve your MAJOR problems first...then we can hit the annoyances. What ISN'T working? Video, I'm guessing. What else? Video. Sound. TV card (secondary importance!). I haven't even tried USB yet, if only because W98se doesn't have a great reputation hanbdling it. Once I get the sound & video going, I'll be a lot happier. Did you install the drivers for your monitor? Sometimes that'll bring the video card into sync. Windows keeps on putting a PnP monitor over the driver I select. Very annoying. Good luck...let us know. Have a nice one... Thanks. |
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 03:23:45 +0100, "I.C. Koets"
wrote: Check to see what drive letters they've been given. Change the NEC to W. Done. But why? Because Windows will (most times) change drive letters on you if you add or subtract a device. With what you now wrote...in your particular case...this doesn't seem to be any particular problem for you. But if you add a camera...or jump drive...etc., drive letters will probably change...and can really muddle things up. Putting non-IDE devices at the end of the alphabet gives Window room to add or subtract letters...which it always does at the frontside. I installed W98se on it. All components' manufacturers claim their component is supported in W98se, and I have looked up all appropriate drivers. So you installed NEW drivers for everything? Is there anything that didn't work from the git go? I first tried to see if Windows came up with working PnP drivers. It didn't. Then I installed the drivers from the disks I got with the components. From my past experience, you shouldn't need to do that. When you put in the CD, it should give you a menu...and allow you to install drivers for the chipset, sound, LAN, etc. If you didn't get that, I'd say that 98 probably won't run on that board. That gave me no results, as I described in the initial post. Then I downloaded the latest W98se drivers (getting scarce!) with no extra luck. Did you try puttin' them on a floppy...delete the hardware...then reboot? When Windows tries to install that new device, point it to the floppy's drivers. If it ain't broke...don't fix it. Its not absolutely to install the latest drivers if things are running properly. What not running properly? Videocard is not detected and only displays VGA, What model card? Can 98 support that version of AGP? Got any old 1 or 2 cards sittin' around that you can try? no sound (onboard sound drivers are part of the chipset drivers) I didn't read the mainboard site in depth. But I kinda remember reading that that onboard sound isn't supported in 98. Where did you get the drivers? Are there 98 drivers on that CD? If not, its probably not supported. network somehow only runs if I use the DOS drivers That's a chipset install feature again. Sounds like 98 doesn't support most of that board. TV card not detected, drivers also won't install Startin' to see the pattern? lol Rather annoying, all in all. Yeah...been there, done that! Are you sure of what you have on the board?...what brand it REALLY is, etc. Run AIDA32...so that you have the current specs on all the hardware. Do a report and save it. Done! (Nice program, by the way.) It doesn't give me a lot of extra information. It identifies my video card as Generic VGA, for instance. Not highly inspiring. The report is 182 KB, so I won't post it right now. Print out the text and post it within your message if you want. Just don't include it as an attachment...or somebody'll jump all over your ass! lol Again, a highly similar problem when installing my videocard. I run the setup program, and it runs until it aborts with an error message saying I don't have a Nvidia card. I'm therefore stuck in crappy VGA. Do you have on-board video?...an add-on card?...or both. No onboard video, but 1 add-on PCIx card. Give us the card model. Maybe we can help find some drivers for it. I'm guessing its either 4x or 8x. Let's try to solve your MAJOR problems first...then we can hit the annoyances. What ISN'T working? Video, I'm guessing. What else? Video. Sound. TV card (secondary importance!). I haven't even tried USB yet, if only because W98se doesn't have a great reputation hanbdling it. Once I get the sound & video going, I'll be a lot happier. Yup...these are all driver issues. If you give us the make and model of all yer cards, we can try to help you get the proper drivers...and hunt for tricks. But we may just be spinning our wheels. Havin' fun yet?! lol Let us know...good luck. Have a nice one... Trentİ Budweiser: Helping ugly people have sex since 1876! |
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"Trentİ" wrote: Check to see what drive letters they've been given. Change the NEC to W. Done. But why? Because Windows will (most times) change drive letters on you if you add or subtract a device. With what you now wrote...in your particular case...this doesn't seem to be any particular problem for you. But if you add a camera...or jump drive...etc., drive letters will probably change...and can really muddle things up. Putting non-IDE devices at the end of the alphabet gives Window room to add or subtract letters...which it always does at the frontside. OK. Not a bad idea then. I installed W98se on it. All components' manufacturers claim their component is supported in W98se, and I have looked up all appropriate drivers. So you installed NEW drivers for everything? Is there anything that didn't work from the git go? I first tried to see if Windows came up with working PnP drivers. It didn't. Then I installed the drivers from the disks I got with the components. From my past experience, you shouldn't need to do that. When you put in the CD, it should give you a menu...and allow you to install drivers for the chipset, sound, LAN, etc. If you didn't get that, I'd say that 98 probably won't run on that board. It does give me a menu, then starts Installshield, then gives me the message that the chipset/video card/TV card is not found on my PC and aborts. That gave me no results, as I described in the initial post. Then I downloaded the latest W98se drivers (getting scarce!) with no extra luck. Did you try puttin' them on a floppy...delete the hardware...then reboot? When Windows tries to install that new device, point it to the floppy's drivers. Not a floppy, but a harddisk directory. If I then force Windows to use 'my' drivers, it warns me that they are *not* written for my hardware in the case of the video card, or it just says I should press 'Finish' and does not install the driver in case of the chipset. If it ain't broke...don't fix it. Its not absolutely to install the latest drivers if things are running properly. What not running properly? Videocard is not detected and only displays VGA, What model card? Can 98 support that version of AGP? Got any old 1 or 2 cards sittin' around that you can try? It's my only card. It isn't AGP, but PCI Express. It has W98 drivers, so logically I'd expect it to work. The card is an Nvidia GeForce 6200 (Club3D) no sound (onboard sound drivers are part of the chipset drivers) I didn't read the mainboard site in depth. But I kinda remember reading that that onboard sound isn't supported in 98. Where did you get the drivers? Are there 98 drivers on that CD? If not, its probably not supported. Well, yes and no. It doesn't give you many drivers, but it does have instructions squirreled away on how to install the 98 .inf files. network somehow only runs if I use the DOS drivers That's a chipset install feature again. Sounds like 98 doesn't support most of that board. Yes, but I think it's weird, because the BIOS has W98 compatibility settings, and the box claims W98 compatibility. TV card not detected, drivers also won't install Startin' to see the pattern? lol Yes, unfortunately. Rather annoying, all in all. Yeah...been there, done that! Me too, but normally I find it easier to fix. I don't like to be forced onto another OS, because I can tweak 98se to do what I want it to. I've never had any luck tweaking XP and I am completely lost when it comes to *nix. Are you sure of what you have on the board?...what brand it REALLY is, etc. Run AIDA32...so that you have the current specs on all the hardware. Do a report and save it. Done! (Nice program, by the way.) It doesn't give me a lot of extra information. It identifies my video card as Generic VGA, for instance. Not highly inspiring. The report is 182 KB, so I won't post it right now. Print out the text and post it within your message if you want. Just don't include it as an attachment...or somebody'll jump all over your ass! lol Well, here you go: It's at the end of my post. Again, a highly similar problem when installing my videocard. I run the setup program, and it runs until it aborts with an error message saying I don't have a Nvidia card. I'm therefore stuck in crappy VGA. Do you have on-board video?...an add-on card?...or both. No onboard video, but 1 add-on PCIx card. Give us the card model. Maybe we can help find some drivers for it. I'm guessing its either 4x or 8x. Nvidia GeForce 6200 PCI Express. Drivers I already have. Let's try to solve your MAJOR problems first...then we can hit the annoyances. What ISN'T working? Video, I'm guessing. What else? Video. Sound. TV card (secondary importance!). I haven't even tried USB yet, if only because W98se doesn't have a great reputation hanbdling it. Once I get the sound & video going, I'll be a lot happier. Yup...these are all driver issues. If you give us the make and model of all yer cards, we can try to help you get the proper drivers...and hunt for tricks. But we may just be spinning our wheels. I have correct drivers already. It is the system that doesn't accept them. Havin' fun yet?! lol No! Here's the report: --------[ AIDA32 (c) 1995-2004 Tamas Miklos ]--------------------------------------------------------------------------- Version AIDA32 v3.93 Author Homepage http://www.aida32.hu Report Type Quick Report Computer DUMPSTER Generator Argusoog Operating System Microsoft Windows 98 SE 4.10.2222A (Win98 SE) Date 2005-01-30 Time 02:54 --------[ Summary ]----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer: Operating System Microsoft Windows 98 SE OS Service Pack None Internet Explorer 5.00.2614.3500 (IE 5.0 - Windows 98 SE) Computer Name DUMPSTER User Name Argusoog Motherboard: CPU Type Intel Pentium 4E, 3000 MHz (3.75 x 800) Motherboard Name Unknown Motherboard Chipset Intel Grantsdale i915 System Memory 512 MB BIOS Type AMI (09/27/04) Communication Port Communications Port (COM1) Communication Port Communications Port (COM2) Communication Port ECP Printer Port (LPT1) Display: Video Adapter Standard Display Adapter (VGA) Monitor Plug and Play Monitor [NoDB] Storage: Floppy Drive GENERIC NEC FLOPPY DISK Disk Drive GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE47 Disk Drive GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE80 Optical Drive _NEC DVD_RW ND-3500AG Partitions: C: (FAT32) 11441 MB (10986 MB free) D: (FAT32) 9529 MB (9529 MB free) E: (FAT32) 51500 MB (50514 MB free) F: (FAT32) 25747 MB (25747 MB free) G: (FAT32) 25732 MB (25732 MB free) H: (FAT32) 28601 MB (21407 MB free) I: (FAT32) 23834 MB (15969 MB free) J: (FAT32) 59115 MB (2595 MB free) K: (FAT32) 9529 MB (9529 MB free) Input: Keyboard Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard Mouse Standard PS/2 Port Mouse Network: Primary IP Address 172.20.64.115 Primary MAC Address 00-11-D8-06-CD-8A Network Adapter NDIS2 Driver for DOS v7.03 (20040615) (172.20.64.115) Network Adapter PPP Adapter. Problems & Suggestions: Problem Disk free space is only 4% on drive J:. --------[ DMI ]--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ BIOS ] BIOS Properties: Vendor American Megatrends Inc. Version 1006.005 Release Date 09/27/2004 Size 512 KB Boot Devices Floppy Disk, Hard Disk, CD-ROM, ATAPI ZIP, LS-120 Capabilities Flash BIOS, Shadow BIOS, Selectable Boot, EDD, BBS Supported Standards DMI, APM, ACPI, ESCD, PnP Expansion Capabilities ISA, PCI, AGP, USB [ System ] System Properties: Manufacturer To Be Filled By O.E.M. Product To Be Filled By O.E.M. Version To Be Filled By O.E.M. Serial Number To Be Filled By O.E.M. Universal Unique ID 88CD34B1-623BD911-88B5113E-7105F1EB Wake-Up Type PCI PME# [ Motherboard ] Motherboard Properties: Manufacturer ASUSTeK Computer INC. 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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:25:55 +0100, "I.C. Koets"
wrote: Did you try puttin' them on a floppy...delete the hardware...then reboot? When Windows tries to install that new device, point it to the floppy's drivers. Not a floppy, but a harddisk directory. If I then force Windows to use 'my' drivers, it warns me that they are *not* written for my hardware in the case of the video card, or it just says I should press 'Finish' and does not install the driver in case of the chipset. If it ain't broke...don't fix it. Its not absolutely to install the latest drivers if things are running properly. What not running properly? Videocard is not detected and only displays VGA, What model card? Can 98 support that version of AGP? Got any old 1 or 2 cards sittin' around that you can try? It's my only card. It isn't AGP, but PCI Express. It has W98 drivers, so logically I'd expect it to work. The card is an Nvidia GeForce 6200 (Club3D) Does it show ANY card in Device Manager? If it does, disable (check) it and reboot. See if it'll then give you the option to install another. no sound (onboard sound drivers are part of the chipset drivers) I didn't read the mainboard site in depth. But I kinda remember reading that that onboard sound isn't supported in 98. Where did you get the drivers? Are there 98 drivers on that CD? If not, its probably not supported. Well, yes and no. It doesn't give you many drivers, but it does have instructions squirreled away on how to install the 98 .inf files. Same thing here. See if anything is in DM. If so, try disabling it. network somehow only runs if I use the DOS drivers That's a chipset install feature again. Sounds like 98 doesn't support most of that board. Yes, but I think it's weird, because the BIOS has W98 compatibility settings, and the box claims W98 compatibility. Search for drivers for the Realtek chip. I haven't tried to install any on a 98 system...but I would think it'd be difficult to find working Gigabit drivers for 98. TV card not detected, drivers also won't install Startin' to see the pattern? lol Yes, unfortunately. You may be beating a dead horse here! lol Rather annoying, all in all. Yeah...been there, done that! Me too, but normally I find it easier to fix. Yeah...but this is a pretty high-tech board. I really think you'd get the optimum performance out of it with a different OS. I don't like to be forced onto another OS, because I can tweak 98se to do what I want it to. I've never had any luck tweaking XP and I am completely lost when it comes to *nix. XP...pre-sp2...isn't bad. But I still find w2k more reliable and responsive. Nvidia GeForce 6200 PCI Express. Drivers I already have. I'll try to nose around tomorrow. If you give us the make and model of all yer cards, we can try to help you get the proper drivers...and hunt for tricks. But we may just be spinning our wheels. I have correct drivers already. It is the system that doesn't accept them. The SYSTEM is Windows 98! lol Partitions: C: (FAT32) 11441 MB (10986 MB free) D: (FAT32) 9529 MB (9529 MB free) E: (FAT32) 51500 MB (50514 MB free) F: (FAT32) 25747 MB (25747 MB free) G: (FAT32) 25732 MB (25732 MB free) H: (FAT32) 28601 MB (21407 MB free) I: (FAT32) 23834 MB (15969 MB free) J: (FAT32) 59115 MB (2595 MB free) K: (FAT32) 9529 MB (9529 MB free) Don't forget the 2 gig file limit on 32...if yer gonna rip any DVD's. [ Motherboard ] Motherboard Properties: Manufacturer ASUSTeK Computer INC. Product P5GD1 Version Rev 1.xx Serial Number MB-1234567890 This might not be a bad time to give them a call. It's late...I'll look at the rest tomorrow. But I didn't see anything unusual. Good luck. Have a nice one... Trentİ Budweiser: Helping ugly people have sex since 1876! |
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"Trentİ" wrote: What model card? Can 98 support that version of AGP? Got any old 1 or 2 cards sittin' around that you can try? It's my only card. It isn't AGP, but PCI Express. It has W98 drivers, so logically I'd expect it to work. The card is an Nvidia GeForce 6200 (Club3D) Does it show ANY card in Device Manager? If it does, disable (check) it and reboot. See if it'll then give you the option to install another. Tried that. It only accepts Generic VGA as a card. Otherwise it shows nothing. no sound (onboard sound drivers are part of the chipset drivers) I didn't read the mainboard site in depth. But I kinda remember reading that that onboard sound isn't supported in 98. Where did you get the drivers? Are there 98 drivers on that CD? If not, its probably not supported. Well, yes and no. It doesn't give you many drivers, but it does have instructions squirreled away on how to install the 98 .inf files. Same thing here. See if anything is in DM. If so, try disabling it. Tried, but on reboot all it does is PnP the old, wrong stuff back. network somehow only runs if I use the DOS drivers That's a chipset install feature again. Sounds like 98 doesn't support most of that board. Yes, but I think it's weird, because the BIOS has W98 compatibility settings, and the box claims W98 compatibility. Search for drivers for the Realtek chip. I haven't tried to install any on a 98 system...but I would think it'd be difficult to find working Gigabit drivers for 98. The Ethernet runs! with a DOS driver, no less! The Realtek sound works on the Realtek driver, but only until I reboot... Rather annoying, all in all. Yeah...been there, done that! Me too, but normally I find it easier to fix. Yeah...but this is a pretty high-tech board. I really think you'd get the optimum performance out of it with a different OS. That might be true, but I have a lot of old software that I can't really afford to lose. My previous experiences with XP weren't very heartening in that department, and I understand W2k is even worse. I don't like to be forced onto another OS, because I can tweak 98se to do what I want it to. I've never had any luck tweaking XP and I am completely lost when it comes to *nix. XP...pre-sp2...isn't bad. But I still find w2k more reliable and responsive. Really? Microsoft says otherwise, themselves. But they are the ones pushing it, of course. Any particular W2k version I should be considering? Nvidia GeForce 6200 PCI Express. Drivers I already have. I'll try to nose around tomorrow. That would be great. If you give us the make and model of all yer cards, we can try to help you get the proper drivers...and hunt for tricks. But we may just be spinning our wheels. I have correct drivers already. It is the system that doesn't accept them. The SYSTEM is Windows 98! lol Yes, I know, I know. I want to twist its arm until stuff starts working. That is my usual tactic. Partitions: C: (FAT32) 11441 MB (10986 MB free) D: (FAT32) 9529 MB (9529 MB free) E: (FAT32) 51500 MB (50514 MB free) F: (FAT32) 25747 MB (25747 MB free) G: (FAT32) 25732 MB (25732 MB free) H: (FAT32) 28601 MB (21407 MB free) I: (FAT32) 23834 MB (15969 MB free) J: (FAT32) 59115 MB (2595 MB free) K: (FAT32) 9529 MB (9529 MB free) Don't forget the 2 gig file limit on 32...if yer gonna rip any DVD's. [ Motherboard ] Motherboard Properties: Manufacturer ASUSTeK Computer INC. Product P5GD1 Version Rev 1.xx Serial Number MB-1234567890 This might not be a bad time to give them a call. Did that 3 weeks ago. They haven't touched my questions yet. The support monitoring site tells me my question has been given top priority, since it has had to wait for more than 48 hours. Go figure. It's late...I'll look at the rest tomorrow. But I didn't see anything unusual. Good luck. Thanks again. |
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 06:01:21 +0100, "I.C. Koets"
wrote: Does it show ANY card in Device Manager? If it does, disable (check) it and reboot. See if it'll then give you the option to install another. Tried that. It only accepts Generic VGA as a card. Otherwise it shows nothing. Yer pretty computer savy...so I'd guess you tried safe mode, too. Sometimes not much can be done in safe mode. Same thing here. See if anything is in DM. If so, try disabling it. Tried, but on reboot all it does is PnP the old, wrong stuff back. Try to find out what drivers its usin'...if they're not generic...and rename them...with a _ at the end. Maybe you can trick it!! lol Search for drivers for the Realtek chip. I haven't tried to install any on a 98 system...but I would think it'd be difficult to find working Gigabit drivers for 98. The Ethernet runs! with a DOS driver, no less! The Realtek sound works on the Realtek driver, but only until I reboot... Weird! Yeah...but this is a pretty high-tech board. I really think you'd get the optimum performance out of it with a different OS. That might be true, but I have a lot of old software that I can't really afford to lose. My previous experiences with XP weren't very heartening in that department, and I understand W2k is even worse. You could always set it up to dual boot. XP...pre-sp2...isn't bad. But I still find w2k more reliable and responsive. Really? Microsoft says otherwise, themselves. But they are the ones pushing it, of course. Any particular W2k version I should be considering? Just simply SP4. XP has a lot more fluff than w2k...and is geared more toward the average consumer. W2k has less fluff...but can close out services easier when you get in a jam, etc. XP won't really run well (LOTS of bugs!) unless you install sp2. Then you get a NEW set of bugs! Welcome to the world of Microsoft. I run sp1 on my machines...but I install and promote sp2 for my clients...'cause I need the business!! lol The SYSTEM is Windows 98! lol Yes, I know, I know. I want to twist its arm until stuff starts working. That is my usual tactic. Just for grins...try loading some w2k drivers. Chances are they won't install...buy ya never know about computers! [ Motherboard ] Motherboard Properties: Manufacturer ASUSTeK Computer INC. Product P5GD1 Version Rev 1.xx Serial Number MB-1234567890 This might not be a bad time to give them a call. Did that 3 weeks ago. They haven't touched my questions yet. The support monitoring site tells me my question has been given top priority, since it has had to wait for more than 48 hours. Go figure. This might be the time to quit being polite. lol Call again...get a NAME...make him/her the contact person...call every day. On the video card...shot in the dark, but... Get a cheap PCI card and install it. At least it'll get you away from that generic VGA. Then maybe the good one might install. I know...sounds dumb! lol I think I'm kinda burned out. There's not really much more I can do for ya. Yer kinda on yer own...as you know. I'll be glad to help with any more specific questions you might have. But yer simply gonna hafta try things trial-n-error. Good luck. Let us know how things work out. Have a nice one... Trentİ Budweiser: Helping ugly people have sex since 1876! |
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"Trentİ" wrote: Does it show ANY card in Device Manager? If it does, disable (check) it and reboot. See if it'll then give you the option to install another. Tried that. It only accepts Generic VGA as a card. Otherwise it shows nothing. Yer pretty computer savy...so I'd guess you tried safe mode, too. Sometimes not much can be done in safe mode. Safe mode does nothing extra, outside of not making my sound vanish. My sound driver magically disappears upon booting in normal mode. Same thing here. See if anything is in DM. If so, try disabling it. Tried, but on reboot all it does is PnP the old, wrong stuff back. Try to find out what drivers its usin'...if they're not generic...and rename them...with a _ at the end. Maybe you can trick it!! lol It seems to be using the generic driver. When I disable it, I get no picture after boot. Then I drop into safe mode on reboot. Search for drivers for the Realtek chip. I haven't tried to install any on a 98 system...but I would think it'd be difficult to find working Gigabit drivers for 98. The Ethernet runs! with a DOS driver, no less! The Realtek sound works on the Realtek driver, but only until I reboot... Weird! Tell me about it. I don't even understand the mechanics of why it does what it does. Yeah...but this is a pretty high-tech board. I really think you'd get the optimum performance out of it with a different OS. That might be true, but I have a lot of old software that I can't really afford to lose. My previous experiences with XP weren't very heartening in that department, and I understand W2k is even worse. You could always set it up to dual boot. Yeah, I'm considering a W2000/Linux dual system. XP...pre-sp2...isn't bad. But I still find w2k more reliable and responsive. Really? Microsoft says otherwise, themselves. But they are the ones pushing it, of course. Any particular W2k version I should be considering? Just simply SP4. XP has a lot more fluff than w2k...and is geared more toward the average consumer. W2k has less fluff...but can close out services easier when you get in a jam, etc. XP won't really run well (LOTS of bugs!) unless you install sp2. Then you get a NEW set of bugs! Welcome to the world of Microsoft. From the pan into the fire, I believe that's called. I run sp1 on my machines...but I install and promote sp2 for my clients...'cause I need the business!! lol People tend to break everything anyway, so even if you gave them something rock-solid you'd still have plenty to do. The SYSTEM is Windows 98! lol Yes, I know, I know. I want to twist its arm until stuff starts working. That is my usual tactic. Just for grins...try loading some w2k drivers. Chances are they won't install...buy ya never know about computers! I tried that just now. It's tricky, becaue they are 'signed', whatever is meant by that, for 2000, but after install they give exactly the same problem. Was worth a try, though. I wonder what would have happened if they tried functioning. This might not be a bad time to give them a call. Did that 3 weeks ago. They haven't touched my questions yet. The support monitoring site tells me my question has been given top priority, since it has had to wait for more than 48 hours. Go figure. This might be the time to quit being polite. lol Call again...get a NAME...make him/her the contact person...call every day. Tricky. I'm in the Netherlands, all we have here is an importer that is no help at all, and their global help center is in Taiwan of all places. Too much hassle, too expensive... On the video card...shot in the dark, but... Get a cheap PCI card and install it. At least it'll get you away from that generic VGA. Then maybe the good one might install. I know...sounds dumb! lol I'll give it a go. I think I'm kinda burned out. There's not really much more I can do for ya. Yer kinda on yer own...as you know. I'll be glad to help with any more specific questions you might have. But yer simply gonna hafta try things trial-n-error. Well, I'm on the end of my tether also. I really appreciate your help, but I guess I'll have to start getting used to a new OS. Good luck. Let us know how things work out. Sure. |
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