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Why am I missing multi-socketed CPU MB, already?
Took out a new 3.4Ghz, hadn't even run past a hardware build, and
stuck this in: IPentium D805 2.66 GHz SL8ZH 2M/533 dual core 64-bit. Both right off BIOStar's CPU support listings and no problementoes. See in the BIOS: Disable Multi-Core (close enough for not verbatim). Don't recall if that was a permanent BIOS-display field and there before I pulled the single-core 3.4Ghz;- neither recall whether or not it was logically active at that time, an unknown, although in the present dual-core state it is. Past speed was 800Mhz FSB at 3.4Ghz, whereas this is stated as above. Temperature is 10 degrees Fahrenheit cooler than was displayed for the former 65-watt single core, although the dual core does draw 30-watts more power for a 95-watt CPU. In theory, two 2.66 cores are appreciable for multimedia applications, so named overall in pragmatic terms, for a great number of users not used to running, say, anything else avoidably programmed for multiple cores. The Operating System we've simply chosen to ignore, in reason because that would be effectively a given same sense, purpose and support provides, as would initially buying a $10-Ebay Pentium D805;- they're thereby both rendered equal and eminent, whereby and to the stated premise for an end of programs supportive of a multi-core. By the same theory, furthermore, and beyond the 3.4Ghz, for some I reason I apparently chose first to buy, but not use, withal were I to over- clock that, say presumably successfully from 3.4 to 4.5Ghz, the dual- core I can expect to yet outperform, over the higher speed, by dint of efficiency provided a multi-core platform;- two cores over two distinct processes conjoined by multi-core support, theoretically, will therefore be rendered at 2.66Ghz more successfully than a single 4.5Ghz core, as it were, and its attempt to reconcile happenstance in a concurrent programming environment. My conclusion, specifically in drawing aim at multimedia applications, is a benefit thereby to be derived within one multimedia application I do know is programmed for multiple cores, with an array of narrow-band sound spectrum analyzers, compression, expansion operatives for aural augmentation and such;- coupled for as I do and within to visual presentment, at best but without visual multi-core programming techniques employed, together I then should see a raised performance for levels of encoded complexity given the player. One difficultly posed, at present, would be if at 3.4Ghz or a higher multiple, which might stand better both in audio-visual presentment at parity to the dual 2.66Ghz configuration;- the mutiband audio compander will benefit by dint of programming for both cores, although will it, that is in any appreciable sense, without a video player equally endowed? |
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Why am I missing multi-socketed CPU MB, already?
"Flasherly" wrote and wrote and wrote....
Took out a new 3.4Ghz, hadn't even run past a hardware build, and stuck this in: [.....paragraphs....?] Is this a question or a memory dump? :-) Something more focused and structured might get more answers. *Tim Daniels* |
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Why am I missing multi-socketed CPU MB, already?
Flasherly wrote:
Took out a new 3.4Ghz, hadn't even run past a hardware build, and stuck this in: IPentium D805 2.66 GHz SL8ZH 2M/533 dual core 64-bit. Both right off BIOStar's CPU support listings and no problementoes. See in the BIOS: Disable Multi-Core (close enough for not verbatim). snip You did not name the Biostar motherboard model number. On single threaded code, the 3.4GHz will be faster. On multi-threaded code, the 2.66GHz might be faster. An internal bottleneck in the software, prevents 100% utilization. If the 3.4GHz processor had Hyperthreading, maybe it wasn't worth the bother of trying the other processor. Paul |
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Why am I missing multi-socketed CPU MB, already?
In article , "Timothy Daniels" wrote:
"Flasherly" wrote and wrote and wrote.... Took out a new 3.4Ghz, hadn't even run past a hardware build, and stuck this in: [.....paragraphs....?] Is this a question or a memory dump? :-) Something more focused and structured might get more answers. *Tim Daniels* I have yet to make sense of his posts even after 3 reads! |
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Why am I missing multi-socketed CPU MB, already?
On Jul 1, 3:18 pm, Paul wrote:
You did not name the Biostar motherboard model number. On single threaded code, the 3.4GHz will be faster. On multi-threaded code, the 2.66GHz might be faster. An internal bottleneck in the software, prevents 100% utilization. If the 3.4GHz processor had Hyperthreading, maybe it wasn't worth the bother of trying the other processor. Paul Doubt the 3.4Ghz, neither actually, would have hyperthreading, leastwise didn't notice in my cross-references;- not really salient, as I'm looking at a lark on pricing, Paul, being these are "toy pricings" ($10 CPUs) to screw with on a total base out-of-pocket assembly of around $50. MB is G31M-PLUS-BO--Biostar G31M+ Intel G31. No need possibly to mess w/ it's spec's, either, as it's similarly priced at $25 (ostensibly so placed for new merchandise). Of three Biostar MB models, I simply didn't like the lowest priced (no solid state capacitors, the other two offered), close but at a significant middle median pricing drop (relative the most expensive) in exchange largely for an inferior Intel video chipset series development;- the upper pricings being solid-state MBs, or within some facsimile I bit at (only immediately to notice traditional capacitors upon delivery and opening the MB box). Intel Pentium D 805 2.66 GHz LGA 775 CPU SL8ZH 2M/533 dual core 64- bit P4651-R--Intel Pentium 4 651 3.4GHz 800MHz 2MB Socket 775 CPU Play-toy time. Let's just forget the single-threaded aspect. I haven't had troubles there since I quit a 478Socket CeleronD 2.4, replaced roughly with a single-core, full-Pentium 478S 3.2Ghz, which I'm presently running for a multimedia station. I can, however, bring that down to its knees, within an inoperable state, by processing underlying sound within audio/visual presentments through separate audio software which is multicore-capable. Here, fun time may offer residuals for a dig: http://www.stereotool.com/ (I can also largely replicate much of these software functions, through hardware, with a Behringer DSP processor.) An internal bottleneck in the processor, of course, prevents optimal utilization;- So is overly ruminating over a CPU in dangling system, without anything hooked up yet, I may take weeks or months to drag my ponderously heavy butt properly into porting over the dualcore for the 478Socket setup. A question equally ubiquitous, I suppose, at the prospect, for the sake of argument, to propose the video player's single-core capacity, coupled to a multi-core audio processing, would be of benefit, at 800Mhz under, the 3.4Ghz. Here's how it actually works, predominately (although I as well use several among some old players), whereas this would be the one and only which will manage an external DSP (StereoTool) to supplant it's internal routines. ...No docs, nada - strictly primo Chinese code (inclusive: I did now manage to think to first look to find PP *does* multi-cores). http://www.softpedia.com/get/Multime...otPlayer.shtml Even money suggests, at the very least I'm going to bet it that way on the long run, while I'm running these two aforementioned programs, which I do extensively, just not always together, it's going to be a damn good $10 well-spent on a working Ebay dualcore. Hyperthreading, bottlenecks, and a 3.4Ghz withstanding. And, if I'm right, then that crap inferior Intel videochip goes out for installing a PCIe videoboard. More fun, though initial impressions is Ebay won't cut it in on video offerings, largely rampant with rebates on basic, direct entry-level card platforms. |
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Why am I missing multi-socketed CPU MB, already?
Flasherly wrote:
Even money suggests, at the very least I'm going to bet it that way on the long run, while I'm running these two aforementioned programs, which I do extensively, just not always together, it's going to be a damn good $10 well-spent on a working Ebay dualcore. Hyperthreading, bottlenecks, and a 3.4Ghz withstanding. And, if I'm right, then that crap inferior Intel videochip goes out for installing a PCIe videoboard. More fun, though initial impressions is Ebay won't cut it in on video offerings, largely rampant with rebates on basic, direct entry-level card platforms. Hmm... Check the "Performance" tab: http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/413...ium_D_805.html I put a 3.2 GHz 45nM E6700 in an ECS G31 motherboard last September. The CPU was $70 and I used a 15% off coupon at ewiz.com, bringing the price closer to $60. It seem these CPUs are now hard to find, and Biostar is not good at issuing bios updates to support new CPUs. http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/308...ore_E6700.html |
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Why am I missing multi-socketed CPU MB, already?
On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 18:14:44 -0700, "Fishface"
wrote: Flasherly wrote: Even money suggests, at the very least I'm going to bet it that way on the long run, while I'm running these two aforementioned programs, which I do extensively, just not always together, it's going to be a damn good $10 well-spent on a working Ebay dualcore. Hyperthreading, bottlenecks, and a 3.4Ghz withstanding. And, if I'm right, then that crap inferior Intel videochip goes out for installing a PCIe videoboard. More fun, though initial impressions is Ebay won't cut it in on video offerings, largely rampant with rebates on basic, direct entry-level card platforms. Hmm... Check the "Performance" tab: http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/413...ium_D_805.html I put a 3.2 GHz 45nM E6700 in an ECS G31 motherboard last September. The CPU was $70 and I used a 15% off coupon at ewiz.com, bringing the price closer to $60. It seem these CPUs are now hard to find, and Biostar is not good at issuing bios updates to support new CPUs. http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/308...ore_E6700.html I'm right at what you spent on the CPU for the whole system. A spare build-it case/PS for $60 bundle to test new MB/MEM/CPU/HeatSink. Happy with half the purchase cost, the MB so far, though for that of course it wouldn't do a newer E6700. The dualcore looks interesting on your posted test results. For me to do it right, that 3.4Ghz I initially picked (the dualcore/EBAY was an afterthought: bought a 3.4Ghz CPU from the same outfit to establish a valid bill of sales, nothing broke & everything working) - I'd have to compare results to the Ebay/805, and *then* to a 478socket 3Ghz-ish I'm presently running in a multimedia config/rig. The 478 is the target now, on the way out, for replacement by the dualcore. All that above and anything said, I suppose, is just so much in the way of speculations that the 805 dualcore should beat out either the 478socket Pentium -or- the spare 3.4Ghz. Far as multimedia, that is, and as yet *no* PCI-e videocard (looks crappy spec'd what I read about the onboard Intel videochip for anything multimedia-wise). That 3.4Ghz is still a hefty speed, & not so sure as hoping. Stuff's great though for prices. This is my third or fourth build from really cheap prices. Easy to flip 'em to interested people, kept for spares for not much money involved. Getting them working and exploring their capabilities for next to nothing prices. A coolermaster 775/1155 socket is totally killer for $12. Locks down with metal on both sides of MB and CPU, and runs right as close to ambient room as I've seen. Enjoy - (knock, knock friend I sold one MSI/$18 setup to already just showed up ... gonn'a show him this one). |
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