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Socket A & 754 Sempron caution.
I don't know if this is well known or not but AMD has used different
criteria in giving the Sempron line of cpu's its PR numbers. So don't buy a Sempron 3100+ expecting it to be faster than an Athlon 64 3000+. Because it's nowhere close to as fast. AMD ommitted a bunch of the benchmarks used for Athlon XP's and Athlon 64 so the Semprons could have higher PR numbers. The sempron 3100+ won't even keep up with an Athlon 64 2800+ And the Sempron for Socket A 2800+ is actually a tbred B core running slower (12x166) than the XP 2600+ tbred (12.5x166). As info only, I crossposted this to several groups. -- Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB) http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm |
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Socket A & 754 Sempron caution.
"Wes Newell" wrote in message
newsan.2004.07.30.05.55.35.314919@TAKEOUTverizon .net... I don't know if this is well known or not but AMD has used different criteria in giving the Sempron line of cpu's its PR numbers. So don't buy a Sempron 3100+ expecting it to be faster than an Athlon 64 3000+. Because it's nowhere close to as fast. AMD ommitted a bunch of the benchmarks used for Athlon XP's and Athlon 64 so the Semprons could have higher PR numbers. The sempron 3100+ won't even keep up with an Athlon 64 2800+ And the Sempron for Socket A 2800+ is actually a tbred B core running slower (12x166) than the XP 2600+ tbred (12.5x166). As info only, I crossposted this to several groups. -- Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB) http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm Thank you. I for one recommend not purchasing a 754 socket CPU at all. I recommend going straight for the 939 based motherboard and CPU, thus you preserve your investment for at least 2 years. ) Hank Kimball "I have an important message for you, life or death." .. Ok, what is the message? "What message?" |
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Socket A & 754 Sempron caution.
"Wes Newell" wrote in message newsan.2004.07.30.05.55.35.314919@TAKEOUTverizon .net... I don't know if this is well known or not but AMD has used different criteria in giving the Sempron line of cpu's its PR numbers. So don't buy a Sempron 3100+ expecting it to be faster than an Athlon 64 3000+. Because it's nowhere close to as fast. AMD ommitted a bunch of the benchmarks used for Athlon XP's and Athlon 64 so the Semprons could have higher PR numbers. The sempron 3100+ won't even keep up with an Athlon 64 2800+ And the Sempron for Socket A 2800+ is actually a tbred B core running slower (12x166) than the XP 2600+ tbred (12.5x166). As info only, I crossposted this to several groups. Yea, The benchark is supposed to be a close to a CeleronD comparision chart.. |
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Socket A & 754 Sempron caution.
Hank Kimball wrote:
"Wes Newell" wrote in message newsan.2004.07.30.05.55.35.314919@TAKEOUTverizon .net... I don't know if this is well known or not but AMD has used different criteria in giving the Sempron line of cpu's its PR numbers. So don't buy a Sempron 3100+ expecting it to be faster than an Athlon 64 3000+. Because it's nowhere close to as fast. AMD ommitted a bunch of the benchmarks used for Athlon XP's and Athlon 64 so the Semprons could have higher PR numbers. The sempron 3100+ won't even keep up with an Athlon 64 2800+ And the Sempron for Socket A 2800+ is actually a tbred B core running slower (12x166) than the XP 2600+ tbred (12.5x166). As info only, I crossposted this to several groups. -- Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB) http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm Thank you. I for one recommend not purchasing a 754 socket CPU at all. I recommend going straight for the 939 based motherboard and CPU, thus you preserve your investment for at least 2 years. ) Looks like I'm just about to do the opposite and get a Socket 754 CPU. Can't really justify the extra for a 3500+, when I expect to upgrade the CPU and board together. -- Derek |
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Socket A & 754 Sempron caution.
rstlne wrote:
Thank you. I for one recommend not purchasing a 754 socket CPU at all. I recommend going straight for the 939 based motherboard and CPU, thus you preserve your investment for at least 2 years. ) Looks like I'm just about to do the opposite and get a Socket 754 CPU. Can't really justify the extra for a 3500+, when I expect to upgrade the CPU and board together. -- Derek If your willing to go to a 754 then you might as well just stick with your skt A (if that's what you have) the 939 kicks ass compared (in all of the benchmarks, and from the huge gaps i would tend to belive that it would really affect the feeling you get) What benchmarks are you looking at? The ones I've seen show a small difference between the 3400+ and 3500+. -- Derek |
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Socket A & 754 Sempron caution.
Derek Baker wrote:
rstlne wrote: Thank you. I for one recommend not purchasing a 754 socket CPU at all. I recommend going straight for the 939 based motherboard and CPU, thus you preserve your investment for at least 2 years. ) Looks like I'm just about to do the opposite and get a Socket 754 CPU. Can't really justify the extra for a 3500+, when I expect to upgrade the CPU and board together. -- Derek If your willing to go to a 754 then you might as well just stick with your skt A (if that's what you have) the 939 kicks ass compared (in all of the benchmarks, and from the huge gaps i would tend to belive that it would really affect the feeling you get) What benchmarks are you looking at? The ones I've seen show a small difference between the 3400+ and 3500+. Here's a comparison of the 3400+ and 3500+: http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...px?i=2065&p=15 Though note since then the 3400+ ha slost half it's cache and gained 200Mhz. -- Derek |
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Socket A & 754 Sempron caution.
Thank you. I for one recommend not purchasing a 754 socket CPU at all. I recommend going straight for the 939 based motherboard and CPU, thus you preserve your investment for at least 2 years. ) Looks like I'm just about to do the opposite and get a Socket 754 CPU. Can't really justify the extra for a 3500+, when I expect to upgrade the CPU and board together. -- Derek If your willing to go to a 754 then you might as well just stick with your skt A (if that's what you have) the 939 kicks ass compared (in all of the benchmarks, and from the huge gaps i would tend to belive that it would really affect the feeling you get) |
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Socket A & 754 Sempron caution.
"rstlne" == rstlne writes:
rstlne If your willing to go to a 754 then you might as well just rstlne stick with your skt A (if that's what you have) the 939 kicks rstlne ass compared (in all of the benchmarks, and from the huge rstlne gaps i would tend to belive that it would really affect the rstlne feeling you get) Really. Anyway the few benchmarks I have seen don't show that significant of a performance difference between 939 vs 754. Could you kindly send a url that shows these big differences. Thanks Alan |
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Socket A & 754 Sempron caution.
"rstlne" wrote If your willing to go to a 754 then you might as well just stick with your skt A (if that's what you have) the 939 kicks ass compared (in all of the benchmarks, and from the huge gaps i would tend to belive that it would really affect the feeling you get) I read that 939 requires matched pairs of memory. Do they have to be identical, or can they be different brands of the same type? -- Ed Light Smiley :-/ MS Smiley :-\ Send spam to the FTC at Thanks, robots. |
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Socket A & 754 Sempron caution.
The safest thing to do is to purchase a matched set. Same size, same
speed, and same brand. One of the problems is matching up all the timing. If you look at the specs for different brands, you will see they use different timings. And it may well end up being the cheapest. If you don't go with a matched set and you start having weird problems, like spontaneous rebooting, you will have to then buy a matched set to fix your unexplained problems. Ed Light wrote: "rstlne" wrote If your willing to go to a 754 then you might as well just stick with your skt A (if that's what you have) the 939 kicks ass compared (in all of the benchmarks, and from the huge gaps i would tend to belive that it would really affect the feeling you get) I read that 939 requires matched pairs of memory. Do they have to be identical, or can they be different brands of the same type? |
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