Added New HD

I'm sucessfully added a new HD. I'm now transferring about 25Gb of Music
stuff ( .wav .wma .mp3 ) from the old 60Gb HD ( my primary master ) to the
new 160Gb ( the primary slave ). The problem is, it says it's going to take
180 mins using the "move" option.

Is there something I'm missing? Is my setup incorrect? I had the orig 60Gb
as the primary master and two drives as the secondary master and slave (
DVD-ROM and DVD+/-RW ) and it all seemed fine. The data transfer HAS to be
quicker than this. 2-3 hrs to move 25Gb from one drive to the other? What
am I doing wrong?

"Chuck" wrote in message
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I'm sucessfully added a new HD. I'm now transferring about 25Gb of Music
stuff ( .wav .wma .mp3 ) from the old 60Gb HD ( my primary master ) to the
new 160Gb ( the primary slave ). The problem is, it says it's going to
take
180 mins using the "move" option.

Is there something I'm missing? Is my setup incorrect? I had the orig
60Gb
as the primary master and two drives as the secondary master and slave (
DVD-ROM and DVD+/-RW ) and it all seemed fine. The data transfer HAS to
be
quicker than this. 2-3 hrs to move 25Gb from one drive to the other?
What
am I doing wrong?



Is DMA enabled for both drives?


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Is there something I'm missing? Is my setup incorrect? I had the orig
60Gb
as the primary master and two drives as the secondary master and slave (
DVD-ROM and DVD+/-RW ) and it all seemed fine. The data transfer HAS to
be
quicker than this. 2-3 hrs to move 25Gb from one drive to the other?
What
am I doing wrong?



Is DMA enabled for both drives?


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It is enabled for the new hd, running ultra 5. The original 60Gb is about 3
years old, running in the PIO mode. I think that's the problem. Final
speed was about 2.4mb/sec for the transfer.

I believe the new drive has to slow down when added with your old drive.
You should try moving the new HD to secondary IDE as master, and one of the
cdrom's as slave. Move one of the CDroms to the primary IDE as a slave.
Now both HD's have their own IDE to play with..

"Chuck" wrote in message
...
I'm sucessfully added a new HD. I'm now transferring about 25Gb of Music
stuff ( .wav .wma .mp3 ) from the old 60Gb HD ( my primary master ) to the
new 160Gb ( the primary slave ). The problem is, it says it's going to
take
180 mins using the "move" option.

Is there something I'm missing? Is my setup incorrect? I had the orig
60Gb
as the primary master and two drives as the secondary master and slave (
DVD-ROM and DVD+/-RW ) and it all seemed fine. The data transfer HAS to
be
quicker than this. 2-3 hrs to move 25Gb from one drive to the other?
What
am I doing wrong?

2.4 MB/sec is about right for PIO mode. Your OS and applications should be on a drive with DMA enabled if you want good performance. If you can't get DMA enabled on the old drive you should use it for data or backup only.

Chuck wrote:

It is enabled for the new hd, running ultra 5. The original 60Gb is about 3
years old, running in the PIO mode. I think that's the problem. Final
speed was about 2.4mb/sec for the transfer.

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On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:29:58 -0500 Singing Yo-Ho-Ho and a Merry KMA
"Chuck" wrote :

Is there something I'm missing? Is my setup incorrect? I had the orig
60Gb
as the primary master and two drives as the secondary master and slave (
DVD-ROM and DVD+/-RW ) and it all seemed fine. The data transfer HAS to
be
quicker than this. 2-3 hrs to move 25Gb from one drive to the other?
What
am I doing wrong?



Is DMA enabled for both drives?


--

It is enabled for the new hd, running ultra 5. The original 60Gb is about 3
years old, running in the PIO mode. I think that's the problem. Final
speed was about 2.4mb/sec for the transfer.

Even a 3 year old drive should be capable of UDMA mode.
Also if copying files from one drive to another it's best to have the
drives on separate IDE ports.
HTH



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Shep© wrote:
On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:29:58 -0500 Singing Yo-Ho-Ho and a Merry KMA
"Chuck" wrote :

Is there something I'm missing? Is my setup incorrect? I had the
orig 60Gb as the primary master and two drives as the secondary
master and slave ( DVD-ROM and DVD+/-RW ) and it all seemed fine.
The data transfer HAS to be quicker than this. 2-3 hrs to move
25Gb from one drive to the other? What am I doing wrong?



Is DMA enabled for both drives?


--

It is enabled for the new hd, running ultra 5. The original 60Gb is
about 3 years old, running in the PIO mode. I think that's the
problem. Final speed was about 2.4mb/sec for the transfer.

Even a 3 year old drive should be capable of UDMA mode.
Also if copying files from one drive to another it's best to have the
drives on separate IDE ports.
HTH

Totally agree. That 60GB drive *is* capable of UDMA mode, and I'd have it on
the second IDE channel as master. Hell, I've got 8GB drives running in UDMA
mode.
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~misfit~

On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 10:05:07 +1300, "~misfit~"
wrote:


Totally agree. That 60GB drive *is* capable of UDMA mode, and I'd have it on
the second IDE channel as master. Hell, I've got 8GB drives running in UDMA
mode.

Most =1.5GB will too.

Totally agree. That 60GB drive *is* capable of UDMA mode, and I'd have it
on
the second IDE channel as master. Hell, I've got 8GB drives running in
UDMA
mode.

It shows as running in Ultra Mode 5 now, same as the new 160. During the
moving of data from the 60, the 60 was showing as running in the PIO mode.
The 60 was the Primary Master and the 160 was the Primary Slave. I've now
switched them around, making the 160 the primary but still booting from the
60.

I can't get my cables to be able to set the two hard drives as the 2 masters
and still allow the two DVD drives to be the slaves. I can't get them in
bays close enough to let me stretch the cable. Do they make extensions or
cables with more space between the primary and the secondary?

In addition, I've already moved a lot of data from the 60 to the 160. I'd
like to be able to transfer the entire drive, making the 160 my primary
master, boot drive and operating system files. What's the easiest way to
copy the entire contents over to the new drive? I can't use the WD
suppplied Data Lifeguard tools to swap the info, I've already transferred
too much data to the new drive and it says I will lose it. I can't send it
back to the old drive, not enough room now. I tried Ghost from Norton SW
2003, but it sent me to a DOS program that kept hanging up.

I'm really just trying to get the op sys onto the new drive as painless as
possible.

Chuck wrote:
Totally agree. That 60GB drive *is* capable of UDMA mode, and I'd
have it on the second IDE channel as master. Hell, I've got 8GB
drives running in UDMA mode.

It shows as running in Ultra Mode 5 now, same as the new 160. During
the moving of data from the 60, the 60 was showing as running in the
PIO mode. The 60 was the Primary Master and the 160 was the Primary
Slave. I've now switched them around, making the 160 the primary but
still booting from the
60.

I can't get my cables to be able to set the two hard drives as the 2
masters and still allow the two DVD drives to be the slaves. I can't
get them in bays close enough to let me stretch the cable. Do they
make extensions or cables with more space between the primary and the
secondary?

It doesn't really need to be the master on the second IDE, it could be slave
and still get better results than having them both on the same channel but I
guess that would still be difficult? Yes, some shops will have cables with
differing spacing to the 'norm' but they could be hard to find.

In addition, I've already moved a lot of data from the 60 to the 160.
I'd like to be able to transfer the entire drive, making the 160 my
primary master, boot drive and operating system files. What's the
easiest way to copy the entire contents over to the new drive? I
can't use the WD suppplied Data Lifeguard tools to swap the info,
I've already transferred too much data to the new drive and it says I
will lose it. I can't send it back to the old drive, not enough room
now. I tried Ghost from Norton SW 2003, but it sent me to a DOS
program that kept hanging up.

LOL, what have you put on the 60? The only way to do what you want that I
know of is to have the 160 empty and use WD's software.

I'm really just trying to get the op sys onto the new drive as
painless as possible.

As above. Can you burn the extra data off the 60 onto CDRs (or DVDRs), copy
the other stuff back, then do a drive image?

Seriously though, I'd be inclined to do a complete new install of the OS and
apps on the 160. It might take you a day maybe but, IMO, it would be the
ideal.
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