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Oracle on NetApp
Anyone surfing this group doing this? If so what do you think about
it? I know of several companies that do and have had extensive conversation with one of the admins doing this. I think it's a good idea if you can build in the availability initially. OnTap software has huge advantages for databases but the filer hardware can be less than enterprise robustness sometimes. Thanks. ~F |
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I've seen very few problems with them, but I'd do some testing before I put
an OLTP DB on it. Keep in mind that you need some CPU overhead for any high I/O app with network based storage. If this is an issue, Netapp has serve block-based storage. The real big advantage I see with Netapp over traditional block-based storage is that it's still on the WAFL filesystem (UFS, VXFS, NTFS formatted over that). The WAFL filesystem means that you can still do all the cool replication that Netapp has to offer. Netapp has a great relationship with Oracle. They say Oracle's own databases run on Netapp HW. --paul "Faeandar" wrote in message ... Anyone surfing this group doing this? If so what do you think about it? I know of several companies that do and have had extensive conversation with one of the admins doing this. I think it's a good idea if you can build in the availability initially. OnTap software has huge advantages for databases but the filer hardware can be less than enterprise robustness sometimes. Thanks. ~F |
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 01:08:40 GMT, Faeandar wrote:
Anyone surfing this group doing this? If so what do you think about it? I know of several companies that do and have had extensive conversation with one of the admins doing this. I think it's a good idea if you can build in the availability initially. OnTap software has huge advantages for databases but the filer hardware can be less than enterprise robustness sometimes. Thanks. ~F I am shocked that you're asking this question. Oracle (the company) uses Net App. Net App is optimized for Oracle. Of all the companies that I know that use Oracle and Net App, none have turned back. Using Snap Shots for recovering corrupt databases is second to none. |
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Boll Weevil wrote in
: Snap Shots for recovering corrupt databases is second to none. Unless you can snapshot with your enterprise-grade SAN storage My only complaint about netapp's hardware is the, IMHO, substandard storage. I really like the Netapp/HDS combo, though. I'm going to play with the EMC Celerra very soon. Does anyone have good or bad experiences with it that we should know about? -- /Jesper Monsted |
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We just migrated off EMC's celerra because we felt that its the most
substandard network attached storage we have ever seen. Its such a complex system just to provide network attached storage. you have to deal with control station, data movers, the dart os and their version of Linux and a whole bunch of stuff like usermapper etc to just to get it serve CIFS. Have you heard of any NAS system that will panic and shutdown if any of the user filesystem (not the root file system) fills up? The Celerra does. Every time M$ releases a new SP for win2K, the datamovers will panic and will need a patch from EMC to get it back to work. My suggestion, don't get fooled by EMC's hype. -G "Jesper Monsted" wrote in message 4.163... Boll Weevil wrote in : Snap Shots for recovering corrupt databases is second to none. Unless you can snapshot with your enterprise-grade SAN storage My only complaint about netapp's hardware is the, IMHO, substandard storage. I really like the Netapp/HDS combo, though. I'm going to play with the EMC Celerra very soon. Does anyone have good or bad experiences with it that we should know about? -- /Jesper Monsted |
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I already knew that but wanted to get the admin's take on it. One of
the follow-up posters mentioned one of my issues and that is the hardware. The software is fantastic, but their hardware has left something to be desired. I have not dealt with the new MK2 shelves so hopefully my LRC complaint is fixed. I also need to get some idea of who is doing it and what the dba's think. My dba's are (like most I'm sure) a superstitious lot. Many still think raw disk is best and all believe raid 5 is bad, and I've done performance benchmarks on our HDS 9980 and there was zero difference for our access patterns. But try and get them to accept it even with numbers.... Thanks. ~F On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 08:00:22 -0600, Boll Weevil wrote: On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 01:08:40 GMT, Faeandar wrote: Anyone surfing this group doing this? If so what do you think about it? I know of several companies that do and have had extensive conversation with one of the admins doing this. I think it's a good idea if you can build in the availability initially. OnTap software has huge advantages for databases but the filer hardware can be less than enterprise robustness sometimes. Thanks. ~F I am shocked that you're asking this question. Oracle (the company) uses Net App. Net App is optimized for Oracle. Of all the companies that I know that use Oracle and Net App, none have turned back. Using Snap Shots for recovering corrupt databases is second to none. |
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