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DVD burners is 16X it?
I bought a 2X burner then an 8X. I want to go as fast as I can but I am not
going to buy a 16X if 32X is going to be out in six months. So I ask will we eventually see 52X DVD burners or is 16X going to be the limit? I do not want to buy another until they are maxed out. Joe |
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"Joe" wrote in message .. . I bought a 2X burner then an 8X. I want to go as fast as I can but I am not going to buy a 16X if 32X is going to be out in six months. So I ask will we eventually see 52X DVD burners or is 16X going to be the limit? I do not want to buy another until they are maxed out. If you always waited for the next best thing around the corner you'd still own a 386 (if you even ever bought a PC). If you NEED a faster drive, get one. If you don't NEED it, but WANT it and can justify spending the money, get one. If you just like bigger numbers, wait for blueray or whatever they call it. |
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I just don't want to waste money. When I bought my first CD burner I paid
$320 for a 4X and less than a year later got a 16X for $120 and these days a 52X can be had for $20. I just do not want to spend the money to buy a 16X when the 8X is getting the job done. However if 16X is going to be as good as it gets then I will go ahead and buy a 16X but if a 32X will be out in 6 months I will wait. Joe "Noozer" wrote in message news:d%l_e.3791$tl2.2282@pd7tw3no... "Joe" wrote in message .. . I bought a 2X burner then an 8X. I want to go as fast as I can but I am not going to buy a 16X if 32X is going to be out in six months. So I ask will we eventually see 52X DVD burners or is 16X going to be the limit? I do not want to buy another until they are maxed out. If you always waited for the next best thing around the corner you'd still own a 386 (if you even ever bought a PC). If you NEED a faster drive, get one. If you don't NEED it, but WANT it and can justify spending the money, get one. If you just like bigger numbers, wait for blueray or whatever they call it. |
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"kony" wrote in message ... On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 20:51:34 -0500, "Joe" wrote: I just don't want to waste money. When I bought my first CD burner I paid $320 for a 4X and less than a year later got a 16X for $120 and these days a 52X can be had for $20. This is mainly evidence that your being an early adoptor, costs more. That is not a reason to not buy a drive now with them priced reasonably at around $45, IF you chose to. The larger issue would be media- that good media for highest speeds will be harder to find, rather than just buying fastest possible at reasonable prices then burning at the mature rate everyone else has- and then you can also use feedback from more users as to which media works well, and works well with any particular burner. I just do not want to spend the money to buy a 16X when the 8X is getting the job done. Then don't- problem solved. However if 16X is going to be as good as it gets No such thing- even if it were, "as good as it gets" would mean a mature design that has had some firmware updates too. If you early-adopt the first 32X drive that would come along, you are paying premium to be a beta tester, and again pay premium for media. then I will go ahead and buy a 16X but if a 32X will be out in 6 months I will wait. Why would you expect a jump from 16 to 32X? More likely it'd be 16 to 24X. Will it happen in 6 months? How much would you pay and were will you be (in the world), 6 months from now? If 6 months is the window, go ahead and get a 16X drive. Isn't there a physical limit to how fast a DVD can actually be spun? I'm sure i read somewhere(!) that 16X was about as fast as a DVD can be spun without creating problems - the DVD may even fragment at higher than 16X.... Feel free to correct me if i'm wrong of course. Martin. :-) PS I just had a quick Google and it seems like i'm right! See http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/12374 Quote: "The maximum speed looks to be 16x," said Anthony Jasionowski, group manager of strategic planning at Panasonic and spokesman for the Ram Promotion Group. "Any faster and even the best media might break apart. It's revolving at 11,000 rpm. We think our competitors may top out at 12x." So you may as well get a 16X DVD writer now Joe - unless you want to wait for them to get any cheaper. |
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On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:36:22 -0500, "Joe"
wrote: I bought a 2X burner then an 8X. I want to go as fast as I can but I am not going to buy a 16X if 32X is going to be out in six months. So I ask will we eventually see 52X DVD burners or is 16X going to be the limit? I do not want to buy another until they are maxed out. Are you taking Riplock into account? Riplock limits the speed of reading a video DVD to about 4x. If you are talking about write speed, then you have to make sure the media you use is listed in the firmware, at the level of the MID. -- Greatest Movie Line Ever http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/MovieLine.wmv "What is history but the story of how politicians have squandered the blood and treasure of the human race?" --Thomas Sowell |
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Joe wrote:
I bought a 2X burner then an 8X. I want to go as fast as I can but I am not going to buy a 16X if 32X is going to be out in six months. So I ask will we eventually see 52X DVD burners or is 16X going to be the limit? I do not want to buy another until they are maxed out. Joe In terms of rotational speed, 16x for DVD is as fast as a DVD can be spun. Someone may come up with a modified way of writing data to the DVD or perhaps we'll start seeing "Blu-Ray" soon. http://www.blu-ray.com/drives/ http://www.blu-ray.com/images/media/jvc2.jpg http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/#1.4 |
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Joe wrote: I bought a 2X burner then an 8X. I want to go as fast as I can but I am not going to buy a 16X if 32X is going to be out in six months. So I ask will we eventually see 52X DVD burners or is 16X going to be the limit? I do not want to buy another until they are maxed out. Joe Wait.. doesn't 16X for a DVD means about 22,160 kB/s?? since most hard drives can read at about like 40-50 MB/s, i'd be surprised to ever see a 52X DVD burner You seem to imagine that X's are the same for CD's as DVD's, but they are not at all. For CD's, correct me if i'm wrong, I think a X is 150 kB/s. For DVD, it's 1385 kB/s, in other words, 1X for a DVD equals over 9X for a CD, so 16X for a DVD is the equivalent of about 148X for a CD 52X for a DVD would be 70 MB/s, since it's way faster than mostly anybody's hard drive read speed, you want see that kinda thing before a long long long time. So yeah really, go for a 16X burner, I got one myself, and it's all good |
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On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:36:22 -0500, "Joe"
wrote: I bought a 2X burner then an 8X. I want to go as fast as I can but I am not going to buy a 16X if 32X is going to be out in six months. So I ask will we eventually see 52X DVD burners or is 16X going to be the limit? I do not want to buy another until they are maxed out. Joe 16x is it. 16x DVD isn't the same as 16x for a CD in terms of rotational speed. 16x DVD rotational speeds are about as fast as anyone dares to go without risking the discs flying apart. That doesn't mean that newer drives won't continue to come out every six months though. DVD SL burn speeds have maxed out, but there's still some ways to go before the RW and DL burn speeds are maxed, and they'll continue to add new features and probably new formats as they get finalized. To answer the real question you seem to be implying, NO, you have not seen the end of optical drive obsolescence. --------------------------------------------- Thanks. MCheu |
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On 28 Sep 2005 15:50:22 -0700, "CFran" wrote:
go for a 16X burner, I got one myself, and it's all good Burn at 8x until you can convince yourself the combination of burner and media will burn properly at 16x. Personally I would not trust any media to burn at 16x unless the burner was an NEC 3540 and the media was TY or Verbatim. -- Greatest Movie Line Ever http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/MovieLine.wmv "What is history but the story of how politicians have squandered the blood and treasure of the human race?" --Thomas Sowell |
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Thanks
This is what I was getting at but I guess I misworded my question. If I understand you correctly, due to the same type of limitations that capped CD burning at 52X DVD has been capped at 16X. Joe "MCheu" wrote in message ... On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:36:22 -0500, "Joe" wrote: I bought a 2X burner then an 8X. I want to go as fast as I can but I am not going to buy a 16X if 32X is going to be out in six months. So I ask will we eventually see 52X DVD burners or is 16X going to be the limit? I do not want to buy another until they are maxed out. Joe 16x is it. 16x DVD isn't the same as 16x for a CD in terms of rotational speed. 16x DVD rotational speeds are about as fast as anyone dares to go without risking the discs flying apart. That doesn't mean that newer drives won't continue to come out every six months though. DVD SL burn speeds have maxed out, but there's still some ways to go before the RW and DL burn speeds are maxed, and they'll continue to add new features and probably new formats as they get finalized. To answer the real question you seem to be implying, NO, you have not seen the end of optical drive obsolescence. --------------------------------------------- Thanks. MCheu |
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