(WinBlows) Ha ha, Vista's just an OSX ripoff

""Peter Bjørn Perlsø"" wrote in message
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Chris H. of Portland, OR wrote:

"DB" wrote in message
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In article , yttrx
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Nothing at microsoft is really new, they copy EVERYTHING.

Let's sum up the arguments, shall we?

MAC: "There's ample documentation to prove that much of the Windows
interface has been copied from the Mac OS, for decades."

WINDOWS: "Oh yeah? Well... well... well... YOU SUCK, DUDE!"

And for 90% of average computer users, no one cares.

Windows is just fine for me. I guess I'm not 1337.

Well, if you're not connected to a WAN and only do Office document
editing, sure, Windows is fine.

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regards , Peter B. P

You mean all that work I do in Photoshop to print to my Epson 7600 to print
24"x36" prints really didn't happen? My use of the PC as my 'tivo' (where
PCs clearly excel compared to Macs) didn't happen?

They're just tools folks. There are good PCs. There are good Macs. Almost
everything can be done on either platform these days.

Tom

On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 13:33:09 -0600, the Bede wrote:

"Peter Bjørn Perlsø" wrote in message
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Chris H. of Portland, OR wrote:

"DB" wrote in message
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In article , yttrx
wrote:

Nothing at microsoft is really new, they copy EVERYTHING.

Let's sum up the arguments, shall we?

MAC: "There's ample documentation to prove that much of the Windows
interface has been copied from the Mac OS, for decades."

WINDOWS: "Oh yeah? Well... well... well... YOU SUCK, DUDE!"

And for 90% of average computer users, no one cares.

Windows is just fine for me. I guess I'm not 1337.

Well, if you're not connected to a WAN and only do Office document
editing, sure, Windows is fine.


what if I'm on a DSL and all I do is download porn and troll usenet?

Considering the amount of viruses and trojans that porn sites try to load
onto Windows computers...definitely not a good idea.

In article , the Bede
wrote:

what if I'm on a DSL and all I do is download porn and troll usenet?

The Mac will do porn quite nicely...not that I have personal
experience, of course.

the Bede wrote:


"Peter Bjørn Perlsø" wrote in message
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Chris H. of Portland, OR wrote:

"DB" wrote in message
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In article , yttrx
wrote:

Nothing at microsoft is really new, they copy EVERYTHING.

Let's sum up the arguments, shall we?

MAC: "There's ample documentation to prove that much of the Windows
interface has been copied from the Mac OS, for decades."

WINDOWS: "Oh yeah? Well... well... well... YOU SUCK, DUDE!"

And for 90% of average computer users, no one cares.

Windows is just fine for me. I guess I'm not 1337.

Well, if you're not connected to a WAN and only do Office document
editing, sure, Windows is fine.


what if I'm on a DSL and all I do is download porn and troll usenet?

Sounds about right
--
Windows was created to keep stupid people away from UNIX."
-- Tom Christiansen

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"Tom Scales" wrote:

"Steve Gary" wrote in message
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C'mon, did they really expect that no one would notice that EVERY SINGLE
ONE of the major feature upgrades - aside from the virus/spyware/security
make-goods which are irrelevant to Mac OS - is a renamed version of
something Apple developed for OS X?

The funniest thing would be if the Rip Off Apple strategy backfired this
time around, and just made people switch to OS X... the playing field is a
lot different now than it was the last time the Microsoft crooks tried it.


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http://homepage.mac.com/vito/real_vista_episode_1.mov


Like Apple has ever had an original idea?

Just ask Xerox

What does Xerox have to do with anything? They never developed the GUI
concept to anywhere within a country mile of what Apple did. If you were
to ever contrast any of the Xerox OSes to the original Mac, you would
know how lame it was in comaprison.

--
George Graves
The easiest thing for one to be is "fashionable." It requires no thought,
no intelligence, and no creativity. Just watch, listen to, and do what
everybody else does and you're part of the "in crowd."

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(yttrx) wrote:

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Tom Scales wrote:

"Steve Gary" wrote in message
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C'mon, did they really expect that no one would notice that EVERY SINGLE
ONE of the major feature upgrades - aside from the virus/spyware/security
make-goods which are irrelevant to Mac OS - is a renamed version of
something Apple developed for OS X?

The funniest thing would be if the Rip Off Apple strategy backfired this
time around, and just made people switch to OS X... the playing field is a
lot different now than it was the last time the Microsoft crooks tried it.


--
http://homepage.mac.com/vito/real_vista_episode_1.mov


Like Apple has ever had an original idea?

Just ask Xerox



This is an old and stupid argument, particularly for those of us who
actually remember those days.

Exactly!

--
George Graves
The easiest thing for one to be is "fashionable." It requires no thought,
no intelligence, and no creativity. Just watch, listen to, and do what
everybody else does and you're part of the "in crowd."

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"Tom Scales" wrote:

"yttrx" wrote in message
.. .
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Tom Scales wrote:

"Steve Gary" wrote in message
...
C'mon, did they really expect that no one would notice that EVERY SINGLE
ONE of the major feature upgrades - aside from the
virus/spyware/security
make-goods which are irrelevant to Mac OS - is a renamed version of
something Apple developed for OS X?

The funniest thing would be if the Rip Off Apple strategy backfired this
time around, and just made people switch to OS X... the playing field is
a
lot different now than it was the last time the Microsoft crooks tried
it.


--
http://homepage.mac.com/vito/real_vista_episode_1.mov


Like Apple has ever had an original idea?

Just ask Xerox



This is an old and stupid argument, particularly for those of us who
actually remember those days.




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Some of us DO remember it. Is it stupid just because it is accurate?

It's stupid because it has NO relation to reality. I worked for Xerox
PARC in those days, I ought to know!

--
George Graves
The easiest thing for one to be is "fashionable." It requires no thought,
no intelligence, and no creativity. Just watch, listen to, and do what
everybody else does and you're part of the "in crowd."

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Michelle Steiner wrote:

"Tom Scales" wrote:


Like Apple has ever had an original idea?

Just ask Xerox

but apple didn't "copy" anything from xerox -- so you need to keep that
in mind.

Only the very skeletal concept of a GUI.

--
George Graves
The easiest thing for one to be is "fashionable." It requires no thought,
no intelligence, and no creativity. Just watch, listen to, and do what
everybody else does and you're part of the "in crowd."

In article ,
"Tom Scales" wrote:

""Peter Bjørn Perlsø"" wrote in message
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Tom Scales wrote:

"yttrx" wrote in message
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In comp.os.linux.advocacy Tom Scales wrote:

"Steve Gary" wrote in message
...
C'mon, did they really expect that no one would notice that EVERY
SINGLE
ONE of the major feature upgrades - aside from the
virus/spyware/security
make-goods which are irrelevant to Mac OS - is a renamed version of
something Apple developed for OS X?

The funniest thing would be if the Rip Off Apple strategy backfired
this
time around, and just made people switch to OS X... the playing field
is
a
lot different now than it was the last time the Microsoft crooks
tried
it.


--
http://homepage.mac.com/vito/real_vista_episode_1.mov


Like Apple has ever had an original idea?

Just ask Xerox



This is an old and stupid argument, particularly for those of us who
actually remember those days.




-----yttrx



--
http://www.yttrx.net



Some of us DO remember it. Is it stupid just because it is accurate?

No. it is stupid to the degree of boneheadedness, because Apple didn't
"rip off" Xerox - they made a deal, quid pro quo, where Xerox got Apple
shares, and Apple got to use Xerox's ideas.



Where did I say anything about stealing?

My point, which was quite clear, was that Apple is rarely an innovator.
They often have good implementations of an existing idea. The Ipod is an
excellent example. They clearly didn't invent the mp3 player, but they
certainly do make excellent ones. I have one myself and like it a lot.

I find it funny to point fingers at MS and say "look they're copying the UI"
when that is exactly what Apple did.

I'm also not saying its wrong -- I just love the Apple bigots that can't see
the big picture or the history.



You're confusing the words "innovate" with "invent".

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Stefan:

Tom Scales wrote:

""Peter Bjørn Perlsø"" wrote in message
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Tom Scales wrote:




Some of us DO remember it. Is it stupid just because it is accurate?

No. it is stupid to the degree of boneheadedness, because Apple didn't
"rip off" Xerox - they made a deal, quid pro quo, where Xerox got Apple
shares, and Apple got to use Xerox's ideas.



Where did I say anything about stealing?

My point, which was quite clear, was that Apple is rarely an innovator.
They often have good implementations of an existing idea.

Who says innovation cannot be that you bring a good idea to a wider
market?

Just curious. Apple took ideas and concepts that others did the footwork
on, and brought it into the mainstream and demonstrated its use for a
wide user base.

Then again, you might say that Microsoft did this too, for even more
people, but with a noticably more ****ed up version of what theyr
copied...

The Ipod is an
excellent example. They clearly didn't invent the mp3 player, but they
certainly do make excellent ones. I have one myself and like it a lot.

I find it funny to point fingers at MS and say "look they're copying the UI"
when that is exactly what Apple did.

I'm also not saying its wrong -- I just love the Apple bigots that can't see
the big picture or the history.

Tom


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