(WinBlows) Ha ha, Vista's just an OSX ripoff

"Steve Gary" wrote in message
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C'mon, did they really expect that no one would notice that EVERY SINGLE
ONE of the major feature upgrades - aside from the virus/spyware/security
make-goods which are irrelevant to Mac OS - is a renamed version of
something Apple developed for OS X?

The funniest thing would be if the Rip Off Apple strategy backfired this
time around, and just made people switch to OS X... the playing field is a
lot different now than it was the last time the Microsoft crooks tried it.


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http://homepage.mac.com/vito/real_vista_episode_1.mov


Like Apple has ever had an original idea?

Just ask Xerox

"Tom Scales" wrote:


Like Apple has ever had an original idea?

Just ask Xerox

but apple didn't "copy" anything from xerox -- so you need to keep that
in mind.

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Tom Scales wrote:

"Steve Gary" wrote in message
...
C'mon, did they really expect that no one would notice that EVERY SINGLE
ONE of the major feature upgrades - aside from the virus/spyware/security
make-goods which are irrelevant to Mac OS - is a renamed version of
something Apple developed for OS X?

The funniest thing would be if the Rip Off Apple strategy backfired this
time around, and just made people switch to OS X... the playing field is a
lot different now than it was the last time the Microsoft crooks tried it.


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http://homepage.mac.com/vito/real_vista_episode_1.mov


Like Apple has ever had an original idea?

Just ask Xerox



This is an old and stupid argument, particularly for those of us who
actually remember those days.




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On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 10:23:18 -0700, Michelle Steiner wrote:

"Tom Scales" wrote:


Like Apple has ever had an original idea?

Just ask Xerox

but apple didn't "copy" anything from xerox -- so you need to keep that
in mind.

While there is some argument as to whether or not apple licensed technology
from Xerox, there's no doubt that OSX is not an original product. Darwin
is largely derived from FreeBSD, and Safari/Webkit is largely derived from
KHTML. Other features, like Dashboard are copies of ideas Microsoft was
shopping around in 2003 (see http://youtube.com/watch?v=b9ifQvQCO7Y for an
early 2003 preview video that shows the sidebar with widgets). Of course
even those had precedents. Very little in computers is really "new".

Also, don't forget that things like "time machine" in Leopard are (albeitly
better implemented) copies of Windows Volume Shadow Copies (been around
since 2003) and Spotlight was also copied from early versions of Longhorn.

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 10:23:18 -0700, Michelle Steiner wrote:

"Tom Scales" wrote:


Like Apple has ever had an original idea?

Just ask Xerox

but apple didn't "copy" anything from xerox -- so you need to keep that
in mind.

While there is some argument as to whether or not apple licensed technology
from Xerox, there's no doubt that OSX is not an original product. Darwin
is largely derived from FreeBSD,

No, its largely derived from NeXTStep, and somewhat derived from BSD, as
NeXTStep was.

and Safari/Webkit is largely derived from
KHTML. Other features, like Dashboard are copies of ideas Microsoft was
shopping around in 2003

And the unix world had in the form of karamba toys in 2001...

(see http://youtube.com/watch?v=b9ifQvQCO7Y for an
early 2003 preview video that shows the sidebar with widgets). Of course
even those had precedents. Very little in computers is really "new".


Nothing at microsoft is really new, they copy EVERYTHING.

Also, don't forget that things like "time machine" in Leopard are (albeitly
better implemented) copies of Windows Volume Shadow Copies (been around
since 2003)

Which IBM invented almost congruently with SGI as jfs and xfs modules,
respectively, and Veritas implemented for the rest of the Unices and even
windows years before microsoft thought to copy it.

and Spotlight was also copied from early versions of Longhorn.

Another ****ing lie. Christ, eric.




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In article , yttrx
wrote:

Nothing at microsoft is really new, they copy EVERYTHING.

Let's sum up the arguments, shall we?

MAC: "There's ample documentation to prove that much of the Windows
interface has been copied from the Mac OS, for decades."

WINDOWS: "Oh yeah? Well... well... well... YOU SUCK, DUDE!"

On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 17:53:30 GMT, yttrx wrote:

While there is some argument as to whether or not apple licensed technology
from Xerox, there's no doubt that OSX is not an original product. Darwin
is largely derived from FreeBSD,

No, its largely derived from NeXTStep, and somewhat derived from BSD, as
NeXTStep was.

Yes, but Darwin was derived from FreeBSD rather than the official UCB BSD
that NeXTStep was.

and Safari/Webkit is largely derived from
KHTML. Other features, like Dashboard are copies of ideas Microsoft was
shopping around in 2003

And the unix world had in the form of karamba toys in 2001...

Karamba came around about the same time, yes... which is even further
evidence that Apple did not invent this.

(see http://youtube.com/watch?v=b9ifQvQCO7Y for an
early 2003 preview video that shows the sidebar with widgets). Of course
even those had precedents. Very little in computers is really "new".

Nothing at microsoft is really new, they copy EVERYTHING.

As does everyone else.

Also, don't forget that things like "time machine" in Leopard are (albeitly
better implemented) copies of Windows Volume Shadow Copies (been around
since 2003)

Which IBM invented almost congruently with SGI as jfs and xfs modules,
respectively, and Veritas implemented for the rest of the Unices and even
windows years before microsoft thought to copy it.

Not the same thing at all. Veritas and SGI and such could access backups
that had been done previously, not be able to go back to snapshots of the
filesystem at any time.

and Spotlight was also copied from early versions of Longhorn.

Another ****ing lie. Christ, eric.

We were even talking about it here in 2003

http://groups.google.com/group/comp....&lnk=ol&hl=en&

That's a year before Spotlight shipped in the form of OSX 10.4

On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 12:08:41 -0600, DB wrote:

In article , yttrx
wrote:

Nothing at microsoft is really new, they copy EVERYTHING.

Let's sum up the arguments, shall we?

MAC: "There's ample documentation to prove that much of the Windows
interface has been copied from the Mac OS, for decades."

WINDOWS: "Oh yeah? Well... well... well... YOU SUCK, DUDE!"

No.

MAC: You copied us. We invented everything

Windows: That's the pot calling the kettle black

MAC: But we invented the "flower power" iMac

Windows: No contest there.

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 17:53:30 GMT, yttrx wrote:

While there is some argument as to whether or not apple licensed technology
from Xerox, there's no doubt that OSX is not an original product. Darwin
is largely derived from FreeBSD,

No, its largely derived from NeXTStep, and somewhat derived from BSD, as
NeXTStep was.

Yes, but Darwin was derived from FreeBSD rather than the official UCB BSD
that NeXTStep was.

and Safari/Webkit is largely derived from
KHTML. Other features, like Dashboard are copies of ideas Microsoft was
shopping around in 2003

And the unix world had in the form of karamba toys in 2001...

Karamba came around about the same time, yes... which is even further
evidence that Apple did not invent this.

(see http://youtube.com/watch?v=b9ifQvQCO7Y for an
early 2003 preview video that shows the sidebar with widgets). Of course
even those had precedents. Very little in computers is really "new".

Nothing at microsoft is really new, they copy EVERYTHING.

As does everyone else.

Also, don't forget that things like "time machine" in Leopard are (albeitly
better implemented) copies of Windows Volume Shadow Copies (been around
since 2003)

Which IBM invented almost congruently with SGI as jfs and xfs modules,
respectively, and Veritas implemented for the rest of the Unices and even
windows years before microsoft thought to copy it.

Not the same thing at all. Veritas and SGI and such could access backups
that had been done previously, not be able to go back to snapshots of the
filesystem at any time.


Ahem...

Neither can windows.




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In comp.os.linux.advocacy Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 12:08:41 -0600, DB wrote:

In article , yttrx
wrote:

Nothing at microsoft is really new, they copy EVERYTHING.

Let's sum up the arguments, shall we?

MAC: "There's ample documentation to prove that much of the Windows
interface has been copied from the Mac OS, for decades."

WINDOWS: "Oh yeah? Well... well... well... YOU SUCK, DUDE!"

No.

MAC: You copied us. We invented everything

Windows: That's the pot calling the kettle black

MAC: But we invented the "flower power" iMac

Windows: No contest there.

Eric, you're a toner monkey in a little idiot community college
in minnessotta. What do you have to say about anything thats
actually pertinent?




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