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"Bill" wrote in message
. net... With the exception of the label being applied incorrectly and causing an imbalance or warpage, what could possibly cause a problem? I have only applied these labels to a few slide show DVDs but have yet to experience problems. No issues here either. I use good quality labels and always apply them with an applicator. To date, I've experienced no issues with CD-Rs or DVD-R discs that can be traced to having a label applied. Sounds like the growth of a new urban computer legend... Been using lables on floppies, video tapes, CDs, and DVDs for years and never a problem.... |
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"Dan G" wrote in message ... The question is about DVD's, which are made differently than CDR. There's no need to "protect" the back side on a DVD, as they are made with a polycarbonate sandwich, so there's a protective disc on both sides. If you put labels on DVD's, you're asking for trouble. "half_pint" wrote in message ... And by what analytical analysis are you basing this on? Or are the DVDS that I have been using for years and labeling superior to everyone else's? |
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"Dan G" wrote in message
... I just ran across yet another report of an entire collection lost due to labels. What's interesting is that this person posted an email he got from Memorex on the subject: "The reason that you experienced issues when you labeled the DVD is that as the DVD plays in the player with the Label on it, the DVD expands from the heat generated. The label does not expand and thus it causes a warping of the DVD. Not a lot but it is enough to cause a failure in Playback. The only type of labeling that we recommend for a DVD is the Center Hub label only." Terry Schmidt Technical Support Memorex Products, Inc. United States Also note that Memorex sold him the DVD labeling kit in the first place. Interesting concept, but I have never seen anyone else replicate this before. |
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Chip wrote: "Dan G" wrote in message ... The question is about DVD's, which are made differently than CDR. There's no need to "protect" the back side on a DVD, as they are made with a polycarbonate sandwich, so there's a protective disc on both sides. If you put labels on DVD's, you're asking for trouble. "half_pint" wrote in message ... And by what analytical analysis are you basing this on? Or are the DVDS that I have been using for years and labeling superior to everyone else's? Note the source of that post--good old "half_pint" yet again. I hadn't seen the original, as I no longer see anything that he/she/it posts. Allen |
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"Bill" wrote in message nk.net... I have some CDs 5 or 6 years old with paper labels on them and have never had problems with even one yet. Larc With my own CD-Rs, and extensive checking performed on many of my discs earlier this year, I found no evidence suggesting that paper labels were causing readback errors. Discs from decent sources such as Taiyo-Yuden were reading back as error-free, regardless of age (three years max, in my case) or whether a label was applied. The "Made in Taiwan" discs from companies such as Memorex (which I'll never purchase again) didn't fare as well--but, again, readback errors were consistently bad on these discs, regardless of whether a label had been applied. Yeah, I have to agree. Learned that lesson the hard way. Memorex blows chunks, and I'll never spend money on them again. I won't even begin to bore everyone in this group with the write and read problems I've enountered with Memorex media. :-( |
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On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 08:43:15 -0800, "Chip" wrote:
"Bill" wrote in message .net... With the exception of the label being applied incorrectly and causing an imbalance or warpage, what could possibly cause a problem? I have only applied these labels to a few slide show DVDs but have yet to experience problems. No issues here either. I use good quality labels and always apply them with an applicator. To date, I've experienced no issues with CD-Rs or DVD-R discs that can be traced to having a label applied. Sounds like the growth of a new urban computer legend... Been using lables on floppies, video tapes, CDs, and DVDs for years and never a problem.... Lack of problems with a certain subset of hardware doesn't mean there are no problems. There was a well-documented Avery brand CDR label problem back in the 2X days that resulted in a recall of the labels by the manufacturer; a quick group search on "avery label recall" (without the quotes) should turn up a variety of threads. Likewise, there have been many instances of labels coming loose in drives. I haven't seen any confirmed cases of label stress causing problems with DVDR delamination, but we know that delamination is a potential problem in general, so it'll take more data before I'll be comfortable either way. Using good quality labels and CDRs with protective top layers will go a long way towards making sure you don't have problems, but DVDRs are still too new to be able to say they'll have no problems with any kind of labels. -- Neil Maxwell - I don't speak for my employer |
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Hash: SHA1 In article , Graham Mayor wrote: John H. wrote: Graham Mayor wrote: I used to label my cds with stomper.But I labled one for my brother to play in his car player.And the heat from his player and the car caused the lable to come loose.But the ones I use for house use stayed on o.k. John.h. I live in an area which has extremes of climate - temperatures of 50 degrees are not unusual in summer - and I frequently leave labelled discs in the car. 50? Where do you live that it stays that cool in the summer? That's winter weather here in Las Vegas...try 110+ in the summer. As for my own experiences with CD labels, I tried them for a while a few years ago. With not much use (and with the discs stored at room temperature), the labels would start peeling up around the edges. Maybe it was the adhesive or maybe it was the surface of the disc (textured, not smooth) that kept them from sticking, but I started using Sharpies after that and kept using those until I bought a disc printer. Even now, I'll still mark a disc with a Sharpie if I don't want to bother with firing up the printer and cranking out a label in Publisher. _/_ / v \ Scott Alfter (remove the obvious to send mail) (IIGS( http://alfter.us/ Top-posting! \_^_/ rm -rf /bin/laden What's the most annoying thing on Usenet? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Linux) iD8DBQFB5E08VgTKos01OwkRAureAKDGdmvwA/FXw1pprojJ04gptHZoVQCgqLVf iv0yoz2AkaOsqMeXdqixqUE= =S6kC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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Scott Alfter wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 In article , Graham Mayor wrote: John H. wrote: Graham Mayor wrote: I used to label my cds with stomper.But I labled one for my brother to play in his car player.And the heat from his player and the car caused the lable to come loose.But the ones I use for house use stayed on o.k. John.h. I live in an area which has extremes of climate - temperatures of 50 degrees are not unusual in summer - and I frequently leave labelled discs in the car. 50? Where do you live that it stays that cool in the summer? That's winter weather here in Las Vegas...try 110+ in the summer. As for my own experiences with CD labels, I tried them for a while a few years ago. With not much use (and with the discs stored at room temperature), the labels would start peeling up around the edges. Maybe it was the adhesive or maybe it was the surface of the disc (textured, not smooth) that kept them from sticking, but I started using Sharpies after that and kept using those until I bought a disc printer. Even now, I'll still mark a disc with a Sharpie if I don't want to bother with firing up the printer and cranking out a label in Publisher. _/_ / v \ Scott Alfter (remove the obvious to send mail) (IIGS( http://alfter.us/ Top-posting! \_^_/ rm -rf /bin/laden What's the most annoying thing on Usenet? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Linux) iD8DBQFB5E08VgTKos01OwkRAureAKDGdmvwA/FXw1pprojJ04gptHZoVQCgqLVf iv0yoz2AkaOsqMeXdqixqUE= =S6kC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- I thought the same thing.50 degrees where do you get that in the summer.I live in ca. where the summer heat is 100+ and heat does cause the labels to come loose. I just bought a R200 and started printing on cds it is so much easyer than useing labels. I just wish the cartridges were cheaper. John.H. * Magic Is Believing In Yourself* *if you can do that* * You Can Make Anything Happen * |
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As for my own experiences with CD labels, I tried them for a while a few years ago. With not much use (and with the discs stored at room temperature), the labels would start peeling up around the edges. Maybe it was the adhesive or maybe it was the surface of the disc (textured, not smooth) that kept them from sticking, but I started using Sharpies after that and kept using those until I bought a disc printer. Even now, I'll still mark a disc with a Sharpie if I don't want to bother with firing up the printer and cranking out a label in Publisher. Maybe it was the quality of the CD label. I started off using labels from Imation (no longer available) and now Fellowes. In three years of label application, I've yet to have even a small edge of a label begin to peel. |
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I live in an area which has extremes of climate - temperatures of 50 degrees
are not unusual in summer - and I frequently leave labelled discs in the car. 50? Where do you live that it stays that cool in the summer? That's winter weather here in Las Vegas...try 110+ in the summer. 50, as in degrees celsius (centigrade) |
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