Prescott

On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 23:04:18 GMT, "Richard Williams"
wrote:

Anyone know the release date? Worth waiting for?


I've heard that the release date has been pushed back to the end of this
year as a result of AMD's delay with their 64bit chip.

From what I've read about it, it sounds like quite a powerful processor,
and there is speculation that it might be classified as a Pentium 5 or
similar.

And yes, I'm waiting for it.

Ricardo Delazy

Ricardo Delazy wrote:
I've heard that the release date has been pushed back to the end of this
year as a result of AMD's delay with their 64bit chip.

Given that at the beginning of the year intel came out and said Prescott
would ship in Q4 (previously just said "second half"), this is not
really a revelation. I doubt it could be connected to AMD's delay since
the intel announcement was months before AMD's. Of course lately I keep
hearing rumors that rather than end of Q4, like I've always expected,
intel might ship at the start of Q4. I have found no support for this
yet, but I have heard the rumor from several directions.


From what I've read about it, it sounds like quite a powerful processor,
and there is speculation that it might be classified as a Pentium 5 or
similar.
What exactly have you read about it that makes it sound powerful? It is
just a Willamette/Northwood on a new process with bigger cache and some
new instructions, like every new generation/shrink. As for Pentium 5,
the rumor rags have been tossing that out for over a year, but it makes
no sense. With Prescott being just a faster P4 (and not faster at
launch from what I've gathered) there is absolutely no reason to go burn
the Pentium 5 name. I expect it to be yet another Pentium 4, maybe with
some tagline at the end, like "Pentium with MMX Technology" it would be
"Pentium 4 with BLAH Technology". After Prescott I expect a shift away
from Pentium 4, but that's years away still.

Alex
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"Alex Johnson" wrote in message
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Ricardo Delazy wrote:
I've heard that the release date has been pushed back to the end of this
year as a result of AMD's delay with their 64bit chip.

Given that at the beginning of the year intel came out and said Prescott
would ship in Q4 (previously just said "second half"), this is not
really a revelation. I doubt it could be connected to AMD's delay since
the intel announcement was months before AMD's. Of course lately I keep
hearing rumors that rather than end of Q4, like I've always expected,
intel might ship at the start of Q4. I have found no support for this
yet, but I have heard the rumor from several directions.


From what I've read about it, it sounds like quite a powerful processor,
and there is speculation that it might be classified as a Pentium 5 or
similar.
What exactly have you read about it that makes it sound powerful? It is
just a Willamette/Northwood on a new process with bigger cache and some
new instructions, like every new generation/shrink. As for Pentium 5,
the rumor rags have been tossing that out for over a year, but it makes
no sense. With Prescott being just a faster P4 (and not faster at
launch from what I've gathered) there is absolutely no reason to go burn
the Pentium 5 name. I expect it to be yet another Pentium 4, maybe with
some tagline at the end, like "Pentium with MMX Technology" it would be
"Pentium 4 with BLAH Technology". After Prescott I expect a shift away
from Pentium 4, but that's years away still.


Office cooler talk or do you know an Intel insider or something?

Judd wrote:
"Alex Johnson" wrote in message
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Ricardo Delazy wrote:

I've heard that the release date has been pushed back to the end of this
year as a result of AMD's delay with their 64bit chip.

Given that at the beginning of the year intel came out and said Prescott
would ship in Q4 (previously just said "second half"), this is not
really a revelation. I doubt it could be connected to AMD's delay since
the intel announcement was months before AMD's. Of course lately I keep
hearing rumors that rather than end of Q4, like I've always expected,
intel might ship at the start of Q4. I have found no support for this
yet, but I have heard the rumor from several directions.



From what I've read about it, it sounds like quite a powerful processor,
and there is speculation that it might be classified as a Pentium 5 or
similar.

What exactly have you read about it that makes it sound powerful? It is
just a Willamette/Northwood on a new process with bigger cache and some
new instructions, like every new generation/shrink. As for Pentium 5,
the rumor rags have been tossing that out for over a year, but it makes
no sense. With Prescott being just a faster P4 (and not faster at
launch from what I've gathered) there is absolutely no reason to go burn
the Pentium 5 name. I expect it to be yet another Pentium 4, maybe with
some tagline at the end, like "Pentium with MMX Technology" it would be
"Pentium 4 with BLAH Technology". After Prescott I expect a shift away
from Pentium 4, but that's years away still.



Office cooler talk or do you know an Intel insider or something?



To what part are you refering? I have no insider info, but both inside
and outside the company the details of Prescott seem to be well defined
as a shrink of Northwood with additional cache and minor tweaks where
circuit tricks became too difficult. As for Pentium 4 name, it just
makes sense that it would stay the same, based on previous experience
(Pentium III being the possible exception). Why might the name end with
Prescott? Well look at the Pentium-M. It's much more cost effective
for intel to make, it is a much cooler part (both by physics and
awe-factor), and it is much more efficient than Pentium 4 in both power
and performance (compare a Banias to a Northwood, or better yet a Dothan
to a Prescott in a few months). I'm betting intel will shift focus to
this chip family. I've already seen stuff on the web stating the
Celeron line is switching again, from Pentium 4 to Pentium-M. I don't
know if it is true, but it sounds good to me.

Alex
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