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Old August 16th 13, 10:49 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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On Fri, 16 Aug 2013 07:31:55 -0400, Paul wrote:

2) Active response. Microsoft, on purpose, introduces new
software technologies. For example, there is a possibility
they will invent something to replace .NET. Software will
go on sale, and, it won't run on WinXP, because the new
library technology (whatever it turns out to be), won't be
available for WinXP.


I think they've already done that. I sent someone a file compiled
with Net 4.5--oops, we couldn't get it to run on his XP box, nothing
in Windows Update to support it. (Fortunately I hadn't actually used
any 4.5 features, that was just what I had the compiler set for.
Downgrading to 4.0 worked fine.)
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Old August 17th 13, 11:44 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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On Tuesday, 13 August 2013 09:27:33 UTC+1, Laurence wrote:
Now that Win8 seems to be established, can we expect to see some cheaper W7s

available for home builders?



Know of any?



Still running XP on all desktops, but recent laptop acquisition came with

7 - I like it, but prohibitively expensive to buy for my desktops.

Anyone?


Sorry Microsoft is not a charity. Windows 7 (Which I love 2 bits) will cost the same. There are companies that would sell older software discounted. The last point here is a bit deeper. intel and others would make more powerful processors and motherboards. Microsoft would make bigger and more powerful software. The old CPU instruction codes become obsolete. Could you instal MS DOS 4 on a Pentium processor. I might try that one day. We are forcibly lead these days and if we want to buy the latest computer game then we might have lots of problems. I am happy with my dual core 4200 amd and windows 7, but I tried playing my cult game Monkey Island (Lucas Arts) it doesn't work.



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Old August 17th 13, 04:19 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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On Fri, 16 Aug 2013 13:02:19 +0000 (UTC), John Doe wrote:

| Paul wrote:
|
| Laurence wrote:
|
| End of support means two things.
|
| 1) Passive response. Microsoft stops issuing security updates.
| A person could "survive" without that.
|
| 2) Active response. Microsoft, on purpose, introduces new
| software technologies...
|
| So yes, you don't need any help from Microsoft (in terms of
| those security updates). But, it'll be the evil things they
| do behind the scenes, that will help get you to "move on".
|
| Yeah, that's why. The OS (XP) started failing here in various
| little ways. Windows 8 is ugly in my setup and there are lots of
| little bugs, but it works because it handles all of the new
| technologies better. I needed an upgrade to the basic OS
| functionallity.

With Classic Shell and a little work, I was able to make Win8 look almost exactly
like the same setup I had with XP (even that was a WinME look). With a tweak here
and there, the appearance and feel of 8 are far more like what I was used to with XP
than unlike it. It's just faster. I'm very comfortable with it now.

Larc
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Old August 19th 13, 07:17 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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"Flasherly" wrote in message
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On Fri, 16 Aug 2013 14:55:53 +0100, "Laurence"
wrote:



"Flasherly" wrote in message
.. .

On Fri, 16 Aug 2013 10:48:47 +0100, "Laurence"
wrote:

All M$ do it chuck loads of files to gum up my hdd to fix problems that
should not have been there in the first place.


Given a wide enough platform of program resources, within what's being
attempted, none of that is of course necessary when provided
acceptable alternatives.

What hurts, though, and eventually will kill XP, is hardware and links
to the OS. When something desired is newly manufactured, say a
peripheral USB device for processing audio streaming, and that
manufacturer's inhouse program staff doesn't write a supportive
layering to include the XP interface, the options narrow into at least
running such as dual-boot, with something more advanced than XP in
order to effect the purchase.

It's no more than the mean status quo, which in marketing terms will
come to be factored for what a given market will bear, over the
incentive to produce products, well within a post-XP market, at a
breakover point of foreseeable profit margins XP may, more or less,
exert to distract in equating worth for valid viability when the
decision is made in effect for having chosen not to write in the XP
support drivers.

But was it DOS 5.1 or 6.22 that was as good as ever we needed.
Because it had to compete with DRDos? - no competition now = fat & lazy
spend the money on marketing and legal department


I'm still running 4DOS (4NT) within a parsed-out XP CMD extension for
Norton Commander to come up on. Vaguely works for an occasional jolt
into blasts from the past, aliases and environmental variables
withstanding. The fat&lazy GUI was unquestionably more intuitive than
the command line, that, and a valid need to fulfill technology-driven
advancements to reap roughly a present 4Ghz core. Stalled. Yea --
besides, there's the know-how behind it all, not a small feat, nor
ought that be surprising as a major impediment to the 'I want it Now'
generation;- hohum, along with playing games for the copyright
freaks practising monopolistic hegemony;- so, what we have here is a
big, bad drag, apparently -- just time to freshen up the scene with
computer literacy devolving into an offset of corporate dominance from
marketing handheld devices of conjoined dependencies on distributed
resources and subscription leased contracts. Capitalism, mind, is a
juggernaut with idealistic materialism that greases its tracks;-
Whereas serving a benevolent purpose is of an antithetical nature to
driving continued and sustained profits for the purpose of profit. Any
philanthropic misgivings you may have regarding DRDos, dear fellow, is
simply antidotal to planned obsolescence.

Nice one! - I'll take that as a "yes" then?

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Old August 19th 13, 12:38 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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On Friday, 16 August 2013 19:31:55 UTC+8, Paul wrote:

My copy of Win2K, I stopped using it because of (2). It was

a perfectly good OS. But, when I wanted to test any 3D game

demos, little bugs would show up, put there on purpose by

Microsoft. They'd introduce changes to DirectX, make DirectX

check for WinXP, and deny operation on Win2K.


I have a program, which is useful to me, but only works in Win2000
(not anything older or newer). So I keep an old PC (Pentium D/DDR/AGP)
just to run it. It is not connected to the internet just to be safe.
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Old August 21st 13, 09:33 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 4:27:33 AM UTC-4, Laurence wrote:
Now that Win8 seems to be established, can we expect to see some cheaper W7s

available for home builders?

Know of any?



I don't know what you consider "cheaper" - I got OEM Win7 Home Premium at Tiger Direct for $89.
 




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