Non OEM ink cartridges

RF wrote:
measekite wrote:


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On Feb 18, 5:07 pm, Tony Hwang wrote:

Hi,
My family uses Canon MP530 printer for general printing job.
Any concerns using non-OEM cartridges? And where I can order
some less expensive compatible ink cartridges? Any suggestions?
TIA,


Hi Tony:

Based on your email address, you're located in Canada, just as I am.
I'm located in Ottawa, Ontario, have worked in the IT industry for 23
years now, 17 of those in supporting very large-scale variable print
operations (hardware and software).

With respect to non-OEM PGI-5 and CLI-8 ink cartridges for the Canon
MP530, they are available within Canada. However, you should be aware
of a few things before you travel the non-OEM route.



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1. CL8 is a newer patented ink formula that no fly by nite has been
able to come close to cloning
2. The new Canon ink has greater fade resistance
3. The new Canon ink shows better print quality
4. The ink quality is consistent
5. It is less likely to clog your printer unless you print a whole
lot and that is only with some of the junkie inks.
Once you've accepted all of these warnings, the printer should
continue to operate without further interruption. This is Canon's
method to "persuade" you to stick with their pricey OEM cartridges.

No persuasion is needed.


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3. Canon inkjets are thermal inkjet printers, i.e. they use heat to
rapidly expand the ink within a jet, causing a drop to be ejected from
the nozzle. It is important not to continue to use the printer with
an empty ink tank. The presence of ink cools the nozzles during use.
If there is no ink, it is likely that the nozzles will overheat, and
possibly burnout, ruining the printhead. Once you have started using
non-OEM cartridges, the ink level monitor will be disabled, and you
will have to manually monitor the ink level within each cartridge.


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4. Ink quality can vary widely with non-OEM cartridges. The trick is
to find a 3rd party brand that you like, and works well for your
"general printing" purposes.
There are no brands. All there are is vendors who sell who knows
what and change based on price. They probably get the stuff from the
same place people got gdog food, toothpaste and toys.
Personally, I like the CoralJet brand,
and have used them for a couple years now with excellent results, even
with photos. I'm quite impressed with this ink. FYI, I'm not related
in any way to the vendor..
that is what they all say. not a relative but a friend maybe
it's just that the vendor happens to be
located here in Ottawa, which also makes it convenient for my needs...
and at C$3.15 a cartridge, it's a fraction of the price of Canon
cartridges. He does ship within Canada via post. See:
http://www.idiya-solutions.com
The savings over time are substantial, to say the least.

5. As far as non-OEM ink clogging the jets - my only experience with
a clogged jet happened with the original factory-supplied OEM Canon
ink with my iP5300, and then only with the pigment-based PGI-5 black
(the CLI-8 cartridges are dye-based). I practically emptied the PGI-5
cartridge trying to flush the jets using the print-driver-based
cleaning cycles without any success. Since the printer was
practically brand new, I called Canon and they sent out a new
printhead. Upon receipt, I tossed the offending OEM PGI-5 and
replaced it with a CoralJet equivalent, overrode the print driver
warnings, and have had zero problems since. (note: Later, I was
eventually able to flush out the clog in the original printhead by
soaking the head in isopropyl alcohol, and now have a "spare" for this
printer).

Now I have heard everything. I have been using a Canon IP4000 for 5
years with the same ink and never had a clog. I have never had a
problem. And I do not print heavily. Since I print mostly photos I
use the pigment cart even less. And the cart I use is BCI 3eBK not a
PGI-5

Regardless, after the original OEM set of ink cartridges were run
through our printers, we've used nothing but CoralJet cartridges, and
have had absolutely no clogging problems.
That may be true only if you print a great deal but if you print like
an average user you better watch out.
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Another option is refilling your OEM cartridges. It's even more
economical,

but can be messy.
Now that is an understatement.
One of my favourite sites is
http://www.nifty-stuff.com for non-OEM inkjet cartridge and refilling
information.

Cheers!
Phineas


Where Measekite do you fit into the Canon family? ;-)

Maybe the Epson Family or between the rock and the hard place.

These are my experiences. Look anybody can use crap ink. Now it is
even more convenients. Take your carts down to the nearest Walgreens
and they will put something in them at a lower price.

These are my experiences. Look anybody can use crap ink. Now it is even
more convenients. Take your carts down to the nearest Walgreens and they
will put something in them at a lower price.


Crap ink? I finally got around to using the ink I got at the dollar store. I
am amazed! It is beautiful! I challenge anyone to tell if its real canon
ink. I can't comment on fading, but as far as color goes, it's great.
Haven't had any clogs yet. The dye black is too thin and needs some
adjustment to compete with canons pigment black. But $3 for all 3 colors
which should refill my carts about 3 times! do the math. If I could just
find the lighter photo ink colors for my HP at the dollar store.

glathrem wrote:

These are my experiences. Look anybody can use crap ink. Now it is even more convenients. Take your carts down to the nearest Walgreens and they will put something in them at a lower price.



Crap ink? I finally got around to using the ink I got at the dollar store. I am amazed! It is beautiful!

Some guys have fat ugly girl friends.  They think they are beautiful too.


I challenge anyone to tell if its real canon ink. I can't comment on fading, but as far as color goes, it's great. Haven't had any clogs




yet.




The dye black is too thin

O course but it is beautiful


and needs some adjustment to compete with canons pigment black.

Can't compete you get what you pay for


But $3 for all 3 colors which should refill my carts about 3 times! do the math.

Some people want to do math and others want to do photography.


If I could just find the lighter photo ink colors for my HP at the dollar store.