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Test's on 3rd Party Inks
Here's an article I found about 3rd party (non OEM) inks, may be
interesting for you to read-: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,942656,00.asp and here's a snippet We printed several types of files (including those with solid color blocks, text, graphics, and photos) on both inexpensive, multipurpose paper and expensive, glossy photo paper. We then ran the printouts through the following tests. ~and~[quote:5793904ff4] Issues not covered by our tests are how third-party inks hold up over time and how they might affect your printer's performance over time—a very controversial issue. The third-party ink sellers say there is no risk to using their products. But representatives from Canon and Hewlett-Packard warn that if a third-party ink cartridge damages a part—clogging a printhead, for example—the warranty for that part would be void. Let the buyer beware.[/quote:5793904ff4] Lot more to read so well worth a peep. Davy |
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Test's on 3rd Party Inks
Davy wrote:
Here's an article I found about 3rd party (non OEM) inks, may be interesting for you to read-: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,942656,00.asp and here's a snippet We printed several types of files (including those with solid color blocks, text, graphics, and photos) on both inexpensive, multipurpose paper and expensive, glossy photo paper. We then ran the printouts through the following tests. ~and~[quote:5793904ff4] Issues not covered by our tests are how third-party inks hold up over time and how they might affect your printer's performance over time�a very controversial issue. The third-party ink sellers say there is no risk to using their products. But representatives from Canon and Hewlett-Packard warn that if a third-party ink cartridge damages a part�clogging a printhead, for example�the warranty for that part would be void. Let the buyer beware.[/quote:5793904ff4] Lot more to read so well worth a peep. Davy How about if through the use of Canon's OEM ink, as an alternative, they bankrupt my wallet. Would Canon be willing to replace the contents then? :-) -Taliesyn |
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Davy wrote:
Here's an article I found about 3rd party (non OEM) inks, may be interesting for you to read-: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,942656,00.asp and here's a snippet We printed several types of files (including those with solid color blocks, text, graphics, and photos) on both inexpensive, multipurpose paper and expensive, glossy photo paper. We then ran the printouts through the following tests. ~and~[quote:5793904ff4] Issues not covered by our tests are how third-party inks hold up over time and how they might affect your printer's performance over time�a very controversial issue. The third-party ink sellers say there is no risk to using their products. But representatives from Canon and Hewlett-Packard warn that if a third-party ink cartridge damages a part�clogging a printhead, for example�the warranty for that part would be void. Let the buyer beware.[/quote:5793904ff4] Lot more to read so well worth a peep. Davy Excuse me Davy...but the relevance of this article has been greatly diminished since it was penned over three years ago. 3rd party inks are now accepted as being equivalent in all aspects (except cost) to oem. No manufacturer will void any warranty because of their use. BTW, this is measher****head's favorite article. He keeps a copy of it under his pillow for quick reference. Frank |
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quote="Frank" Excuse me Davy...but the relevance of this article has been greatly diminished since it was penned over three years ago. Well I'll be damned it was dated 11.05.02, I never checked, thanks for pointing it out Frank. At least I've got the wooden spoon out...! Davy |
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Frank wrote: Davy wrote: Here's an article I found about 3rd party (non OEM) inks, may be interesting for you to read-: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,942656,00.asp and here's a snippet We printed several types of files (including those with solid color blocks, text, graphics, and photos) on both inexpensive, multipurpose paper and expensive, glossy photo paper. We then ran the printouts through the following tests. ~and~[quote:5793904ff4] Issues not covered by our tests are how third-party inks hold up over time and how they might affect your printer's performance over time�a very controversial issue. The third-party ink sellers say there is no risk to using their products. But representatives from Canon and Hewlett-Packard warn that if a third-party ink cartridge damages a part�clogging a printhead, for example�the warranty for that part would be void. Let the buyer beware.[/quote:5793904ff4] Lot more to read so well worth a peep. Davy Excuse me Davy...but the relevance of this article has been greatly diminished since it was penned over three years ago. 3rd party inks are never accepted as being equivalent in any aspect (except cost) to oem. No manufacturer will void any warranty because of their use unless it was proved to have ruined the printer. Frank |
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Accepted by whom? I find no evidence of this on Canon's, Epson's,
or Lexmark's sites. Could you provide a reference to show that the manufacturers now agree that all third party inks are ok and won't cause damage or void warranties? Or did you just mean "accepted as being equivalent in all aspects" by a few people who post in this newsgroup? Frank wrote: Excuse me Davy...but the relevance of this article has been greatly diminished since it was penned over three years ago. 3rd party inks are now accepted as being equivalent in all aspects (except cost) to oem. No manufacturer will void any warranty because of their use. |
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Mike Berger wrote:
Accepted by whom? I find no evidence of this on Canon's, Epson's, or Lexmark's sites. Could you provide a reference to show that the manufacturers now agree that all third party inks are ok and won't cause damage or void warranties? Or did you just mean "accepted as being equivalent in all aspects" by a few people who post in this newsgroup? Frank wrote: Excuse me Davy...but the relevance of this article has been greatly diminished since it was penned over three years ago. 3rd party inks are now accepted as being equivalent in all aspects (except cost) to oem. No manufacturer will void any warranty because of their use. Well Mike...just how big do you think the after market ink business is? Would you say as big as or bigger than the oem market? Bigger than "a few people who post in this newsgroup"? I'd guess both. More than a few who post here (self included) have used strictly after market inks for almost ten years in our HP's, Canon's, Epson's and Lexmark's that I am aware of. I've personally had 2 HP's, one Epson and one Canon replaced under warranty over the years while using after market inks and I told them up front what I was using. No where in any warranty from these manufacturers have I seen, read or heard about warranties being voided by using after market inks. Have you? Frank |
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"Davy" wrote in message ... [...] representatives from Canon and Hewlett-Packard warn that if a third-party ink cartridge damages a part clogging a printhead, for example the warranty for that part would be void. Let the buyer beware But they have to first prove that the 3rd party inks did indeed cause the clog - and unless the are going to do an extreme scientific examination of the heads that's not possible to do. |
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Accepted by whom? I find no evidence of this on Canon's, Epson's,
or Lexmark's sites. Could you provide a reference to show that the manufacturers now agree that all third party inks are ok and won't cause damage or void warranties? Or did you just mean "accepted as being equivalent in all aspects" by a few people who post in this newsgroup? Magnuson Moss Warranty Act US Code - Title 15, Chapter 50, Sections 2301-2312 http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/...s/warranty.htm Other countries have similar provisions. Basicly a MFG can not as a condition of the warranty say you must use their consumables unless they provide the product freely during the warranty period whether it be car or printer. Now if your printer failed and if it was a direct result of using some other guy's product, sure they can deny the warranty. They just can't because you used the other guy's product, not unless they want to take it up with the FTC or equilevent agency. I disagree that the other guy's ink is equilivent in all aspects. After all in all likelyhood the ink is protected by a patent and you can't duplicate it exactly, unless the OEM decides to sell their stuff in bulk aftermarket. In other cases ink totally different... like if for example you wanted to shove pigment based inks down a dye printer or use a solvent other than water, but this isn't your bargin hunter equilivent ink. I feel it's more of a question of can you see the difference, and if you can do you care. |
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