Pathetic HP corporate BS.

I just replaced a couple ink cartridges with brand news ones that purchased
today.

Printer's clock correctly says it is: Wednesday, 2009-09-23

But, for the brand-new cartridges just installed today:

First Installation Date (Y-M-D): 2009-09-17
Expiration Date (Y-M-D) : 2011-10-15

How ****ing pathetic do they have to be to even shave days off?

bcas wrote:
I just replaced a couple ink cartridges with brand news ones that
purchased today.

Printer's clock correctly says it is: Wednesday, 2009-09-23

But, for the brand-new cartridges just installed today:

First Installation Date (Y-M-D): 2009-09-17
Expiration Date (Y-M-D) : 2011-10-15

How ****ing pathetic do they have to be to even shave days off?


I don't know what your printer model or cartridges are (you
didn't say). Does your printer lock up when the end date is exceeded?

I got something even worse:
Big-O Tire refused to repair a broken valve stem for me.
"We aren't allowed to repair your tire. It's expired."
"You're joking, right?"
"No. Your tire is more than five years old. We're not allowed to
repair expired tires."
"Bull****!"

So, I went to a local independent tire shop and got it fixed for $10.

Perhaps that's how we should deal with our printers.

Richard

Be happy it didn't decide to shave off a year or so.

Were the cartridges properly wrapped when you bought them,
or is it possible someone bought them, installed them and then returned
them to the store?

Art

If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste,
I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog:

http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/

bcas wrote:
I just replaced a couple ink cartridges with brand news ones that
purchased today.

Printer's clock correctly says it is: Wednesday, 2009-09-23

But, for the brand-new cartridges just installed today:

First Installation Date (Y-M-D): 2009-09-17
Expiration Date (Y-M-D) : 2011-10-15

How ****ing pathetic do they have to be to even shave days off?

I realize this is off topic, and also I would probably have responded
similarly to yourself had it happened to me, but there is some logic to
this on the tire store's part.

Tires do not only wear out when their tread depth wears to a certain
point. Tires age due to weather, UV, use, all of which can weaken the
treads, cause breakdown that leads to a blowout or tread separation, all
of which can be very dangerous if it happens to occur while you are
driving quickly, on hot pavement or making an emergency maneuver.

This may place the tire store in a liability position because their
repair of the tire (putting a new valve stem in the wheel) could be
construed as an endorsement of the state of the tire.

Also, in some rare cases, the sidewall may be compromised due to age (it
can become brittle, or weak, and removing the tire from the wheel rim to
install the valve stem, cause damage the tire's sideway.

As a result some larger chains have made it a policy of not servicing
older tires.

Art

If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste,
I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog:

http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/

Richard Steinfeld wrote:
bcas wrote:
I just replaced a couple ink cartridges with brand news ones that
purchased today.

Printer's clock correctly says it is: Wednesday, 2009-09-23

But, for the brand-new cartridges just installed today:

First Installation Date (Y-M-D): 2009-09-17
Expiration Date (Y-M-D) : 2011-10-15

How ****ing pathetic do they have to be to even shave days off?


I don't know what your printer model or cartridges are (you didn't say).
Does your printer lock up when the end date is exceeded?

I got something even worse:
Big-O Tire refused to repair a broken valve stem for me.
"We aren't allowed to repair your tire. It's expired."
"You're joking, right?"
"No. Your tire is more than five years old. We're not allowed to repair
expired tires."
"Bull****!"

So, I went to a local independent tire shop and got it fixed for $10.

Perhaps that's how we should deal with our printers.

Richard

Arthur Entlich wrote:
I realize this is off topic, and also I would probably have responded
similarly to yourself had it happened to me, but there is some logic to
this on the tire store's part.

Tires do not only wear out when their tread depth wears to a certain
point. Tires age due to weather, UV, use, all of which can weaken the
treads, cause breakdown that leads to a blowout or tread separation, all
of which can be very dangerous if it happens to occur while you are
driving quickly, on hot pavement or making an emergency maneuver.

This may place the tire store in a liability position because their
repair of the tire (putting a new valve stem in the wheel) could be
construed as an endorsement of the state of the tire.

Also, in some rare cases, the sidewall may be compromised due to age (it
can become brittle, or weak, and removing the tire from the wheel rim to
install the valve stem, cause damage the tire's sideway.

As a result some larger chains have made it a policy of not servicing
older tires.

Art

If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste,
I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog:

http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/

Your comments are right on Art. Safety and liability are major concerns
here. This is a real issue for folks with RV's that see little mileage
annually. In some places in the country you won't have a hard time
finding tires with most of their tread and can easily see checking on
the sidewalls due to exposure to the environment.

With too many people being sue happy, co's can no longer afford to take
a chance and leave themselves open to a suite.

Saw something in the news within the last couple months and article was
focused on the age of tires in inventory at many tire stores. Reporters
had no problems finding tires 2-3 yrs old in inventory and being offered
for sale.

Mickey

"Arthur Entlich" wrote in message
...

This may place the tire store in a liability position because their
repair of the tire (putting a new valve stem in the wheel) could be
construed as an endorsement of the state of the tire.

Legal liability varies between countries e.g.:
1. Outside the USA, without a statute on the topic,
no judge is likely to interpret making a requested repair
as a warranty for road-worthiness.
2. Nor would many American judges.
3. But some American juries well might.
A related point is that legal liability is recognised at court
only by judges in most jurisdictions: but Americans are
used to leaving this to juries.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)