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Boot problems after new hardware!
I recently added a new CD burner to my second IDE channel. Previously I
had my hard drive as the master device on ch1 whilst my CD-ROM was the master on ch2. I discovered that the only way I could add my new drive was as slave to the CD-ROM on ch2, as any other combination lead to the boot process hanging halfway through. I'd taken care to use the correct cable plugs & jumper settings on the back of the drives & from what I've read about hardware installation I can't see why, as long as the jumpers are correct, I can't set up the IDE devices as I please? Is there some BIOS setting that I should investigate to set up new IDE configurations & what is the most likekly cause of the faliure to boot W98 in any other config other than just adding the new device to a free space? Thanks in advance for any suggestions! |
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Timothy Lister wrote: I recently added a new CD burner to my second IDE channel. Previously I had my hard drive as the master device on ch1 whilst my CD-ROM was the master on ch2. I discovered that the only way I could add my new drive was as slave to the CD-ROM on ch2, as any other combination lead to the boot process hanging halfway through. I'd taken care to use the correct cable plugs & jumper settings on the back of the drives & from what I've read about hardware installation I can't see why, as long as the jumpers are correct, I can't set up the IDE devices as I please? Is there some BIOS setting that I should investigate to set up new IDE configurations & what is the most likekly cause of the faliure to boot W98 in any other config other than just adding the new device to a free space? Thanks in advance for any suggestions! You don't by any chance have CMOS setup as "None" for the master drive on the secondary IDE controller, do you?? If it is, it will detect the CD drive when it occupies the position but not the HD if NONE is designated. If the slave position for the secondary IDE is AUTO (anything other than NONE) it could account for why the HD is seen when it occupies the slave position but not the master. Ken |
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On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:30:50 +0100, In this world we created "Timothy
Lister" wrote : I recently added a new CD burner to my second IDE channel. Previously I had my hard drive as the master device on ch1 whilst my CD-ROM was the master on ch2. I discovered that the only way I could add my new drive was as slave to the CD-ROM on ch2, as any other combination lead to the boot process hanging halfway through. Are the Cdrom jumpers set to,"Cable Select"? If so then the position the drive plugged into the IDE cable decides Master/Slave.I prefer never to use this option on hard drives and Cdroms when building as depending on the space in the box it can restrict the physical position of the drives in the box. Also try here, http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/cdsetup.html http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/hard.html HTH I'd taken care to use the correct cable plugs & jumper settings on the back of the drives & from what I've read about hardware installation I can't see why, as long as the jumpers are correct, I can't set up the IDE devices as I please? Is there some BIOS setting that I should investigate to set up new IDE configurations & what is the most likekly cause of the faliure to boot W98 in any other config other than just adding the new device to a free space? Thanks in advance for any suggestions! -- Free Windows/PC help, It's a G not a J in jmx to reply http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html Free songs download, http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/17/sheppard.html |
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Thanks for the advice peeps but the BIOS is set to auto detect all four
IDE channels & I took great care to ensure that the jumper settings on the back of the drives were set properly. As long as I was just adding my new drive into the vacant slave on ch2, Win98 would boot up fine. If I tried any other combo such as CDrw master & CDrom slave on ch2, the CMOS would see the drives correctly at the start of the boot but the process would never finish! I got as far as the Win98 logo but not as far as seeing my desktop! From the logged boot, it looks as though it freezes whilst loading the mouse drivers, although I'm not absolutely sure as being a complete newbie at this, I don't really know how to interpret boot logs properly! I've needed my pc for the last few days but when I have some time, I'll try some of the suggestions from the superb sites that you've directed me to! I wanted to understand what was causing my boot faliure as I'm also going to attempt to replace my harddrive soon so the more I learn about the IDE interface, the better! Thanks once again! |
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On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:23:28 +0100, "Timothy Lister"
wrote: Thanks for the advice peeps but the BIOS is set to auto detect all four IDE channels & I took great care to ensure that the jumper settings on the back of the drives were set properly. As long as I was just adding my new drive into the vacant slave on ch2, Win98 would boot up fine. If I tried any other combo such as CDrw master & CDrom slave on ch2, the CMOS would see the drives correctly at the start of the boot but the process would never finish! I got as far as the Win98 logo but not as far as seeing my desktop! From the logged boot, it looks as though it freezes whilst loading the mouse drivers, although I'm not absolutely sure as being a complete newbie at this, I don't really know how to interpret boot logs properly! I've needed my pc for the last few days but when I have some time, I'll try some of the suggestions from the superb sites that you've directed me to! I wanted to understand what was causing my boot faliure as I'm also going to attempt to replace my harddrive soon so the more I learn about the IDE interface, the better! Thanks once again! What system (motherboard, chipset) is this? Have you tried a BIOS update? If it works as slave, why sweat making it master? IIRC, after the mouse the video driver is loaded, but I don't know that this is any help to know. On one Win98 system I used to have, think it was a TX chipset Gatway OEM board, it was necessary to set both ATAPI (CDROM/RW) devices to "none" in the BIOS, though Win98 still saw and used them fine. I expect that prevented them from being bootable though. Dave |
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On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:23:28 +0100, In this world we created "Timothy
Lister" wrote : Thanks for the advice peeps but the BIOS is set to auto detect all four IDE channels & I took great care to ensure that the jumper settings on the back of the drives were set properly. Try changing from Auto to user and press the enter key and save on exit.On some boards the auto option doesn't do a good job. HTH As long as I was just adding my new drive into the vacant slave on ch2, Win98 would boot up fine. If I tried any other combo such as CDrw master & CDrom slave on ch2, the CMOS would see the drives correctly at the start of the boot but the process would never finish! I got as far as the Win98 logo but not as far as seeing my desktop! From the logged boot, it looks as though it freezes whilst loading the mouse drivers, although I'm not absolutely sure as being a complete newbie at this, I don't really know how to interpret boot logs properly! I've needed my pc for the last few days but when I have some time, I'll try some of the suggestions from the superb sites that you've directed me to! I wanted to understand what was causing my boot faliure as I'm also going to attempt to replace my harddrive soon so the more I learn about the IDE interface, the better! Thanks once again! -- Free Windows/PC help, It's a G not a J in jmx to reply http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html Free songs download, http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/17/sheppard.html |
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