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Good RAID for New Desktop Machine?
In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner wrote:
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Cydrome Leader wrote: In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner wrote: In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Cydrome Leader wrote: In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner wrote: In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Doug White wrote: I need to get a new desktop machine, and I'm planning on getting a card to support RAID mirroring in case of a disk crash. My wife has a 6 month old Dell that she bought with some brand of card & 2 drives, but Dell didn't install the card. We discovered that the first thing the card wants to do is reformat your primary drive, which is absurd. We sent it back and got a card from Promise. It took a few tech support calls to get it installed & working properly. Even now, it wants to go to the setup menu every time you boot. Does anyone have a recommendation for a good RAID card? I'd like to get one that is reliable, and won't trash the primary (or remaining good) drive if something crashes. I've read too many horror stories of RAID systems that do stuff like reformatting the good drive when a bad drive is replaced & other such nonsense. I'll be using this with XP Pro, so Vista isn't an issue. Thanks! Doug White Stay away from Adaptec. 3ware has a good reputation, but can you name a single problem with an adaptec 2420SA? I can name you a lot with the 2410SA. Non-functional commandline-interface that does not allow any automatisation. Keeps dropping drives. Takes forever to resync. No SMART support despite claims to the contrary. Incompetent technical support. Expensive trash. Arno never had a drive drop or resync problems, and i've intentionally broken arrays by yanking out the sata cables on a live system. what firmware versions are you running? As this thing was unusable and I had to get the storage running, it has been disposed of by now, I expect. I bought it 4 years ago. This card didn't even exist 4 years ago. |
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Good RAID for New Desktop Machine?
On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 21:41:36 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
put finger to keyboard and composed: In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner wrote: In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Cydrome Leader wrote: In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner wrote: In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Cydrome Leader wrote: In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner wrote: In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Doug White wrote: I can name you a lot with the 2410SA. Non-functional commandline-interface that does not allow any automatisation. Keeps dropping drives. Takes forever to resync. No SMART support despite claims to the contrary. Incompetent technical support. Expensive trash. Arno never had a drive drop or resync problems, and i've intentionally broken arrays by yanking out the sata cables on a live system. what firmware versions are you running? As this thing was unusable and I had to get the storage running, it has been disposed of by now, I expect. I bought it 4 years ago. This card didn't even exist 4 years ago. Product Reviews - Hard disks - Adaptec Serial ATA RAID 2410SA: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/50553...id-2410sa.html PC Pro ISSUE: 111 DATE: Jan 04 - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |
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Good RAID for New Desktop Machine?
On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:12:42 +1000, Franc Zabkar
put finger to keyboard and composed: On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 21:41:36 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader put finger to keyboard and composed: This card didn't even exist 4 years ago. Product Reviews - Hard disks - Adaptec Serial ATA RAID 2410SA: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/50553...id-2410sa.html PC Pro ISSUE: 111 DATE: Jan 04 The YYWW date code on one of the chips suggests the card could have been manufactured as early as week 16 of 2003: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/picture_libra...32044.jpg?2477 - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |
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Good RAID for New Desktop Machine?
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In article , Arno Wagner wrote: In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Cydrome Leader wrote: In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner wrote: In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Doug White wrote: I need to get a new desktop machine, and I'm planning on getting a card to support RAID mirroring in case of a disk crash. My wife has a 6 month old Dell that she bought with some brand of card & 2 drives, but Dell didn't install the card. We discovered that the first thing the card wants to do is reformat your primary drive, which is absurd. We sent it back and got a card from Promise. It took a few tech support calls to get it installed & working properly. Even now, it wants to go to the setup menu every time you boot. Does anyone have a recommendation for a good RAID card? I'd like to get one that is reliable, and won't trash the primary (or remaining good) drive if something crashes. I've read too many horror stories of RAID systems that do stuff like reformatting the good drive when a bad drive is replaced & other such nonsense. I'll be using this with XP Pro, so Vista isn't an issue. Thanks! Doug White Stay away from Adaptec. 3ware has a good reputation, but can you name a single problem with an adaptec 2420SA? I can name you a lot with the 2410SA. Non-functional commandline-interface that does not allow any automatisation. Keeps dropping drives. Takes forever to resync. No SMART support despite claims to the contrary. Incompetent technical support. Expensive trash. I can't speak for their RAID cards, but the SCSI card in my old desktop was flaky from day one. After numerous tech support equiries, driver & firmware updates, it still bluescreens my computer occasionally. I will never buy another Adaptec product. Doug White |
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Good RAID for New Desktop Machine?
I can't speak for their RAID cards, but the SCSI card in my old desktop
was flaky from day one. After numerous tech support equiries, driver & firmware updates, it still bluescreens my computer occasionally. I will never buy another Adaptec product. I run the Adaptec SCSI card (160MB/s, the one with Windows driver "adpu160m") for 8 years or so. No issues. -- Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP StorageCraft Corporation http://www.storagecraft.com |
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Good RAID for New Desktop Machine?
In comp.arch.storage Franc Zabkar wrote:
On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 21:41:36 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader put finger to keyboard and composed: In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner wrote: In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Cydrome Leader wrote: In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner wrote: In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Cydrome Leader wrote: In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner wrote: In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Doug White wrote: I can name you a lot with the 2410SA. Non-functional commandline-interface that does not allow any automatisation. Keeps dropping drives. Takes forever to resync. No SMART support despite claims to the contrary. Incompetent technical support. Expensive trash. Arno never had a drive drop or resync problems, and i've intentionally broken arrays by yanking out the sata cables on a live system. what firmware versions are you running? As this thing was unusable and I had to get the storage running, it has been disposed of by now, I expect. I bought it 4 years ago. This card didn't even exist 4 years ago. Product Reviews - Hard disks - Adaptec Serial ATA RAID 2410SA: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/50553...id-2410sa.html a 2420sa isn't a 2410sa, kind of like how 3 isn't equal to 7 |
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Good RAID for New Desktop Machine?
In comp.arch.storage Doug White wrote:
Keywords: In article , Arno Wagner wrote: In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Cydrome Leader wrote: In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner wrote: In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Doug White wrote: I need to get a new desktop machine, and I'm planning on getting a card to support RAID mirroring in case of a disk crash. My wife has a 6 month old Dell that she bought with some brand of card & 2 drives, but Dell didn't install the card. We discovered that the first thing the card wants to do is reformat your primary drive, which is absurd. We sent it back and got a card from Promise. It took a few tech support calls to get it installed & working properly. Even now, it wants to go to the setup menu every time you boot. Does anyone have a recommendation for a good RAID card? I'd like to get one that is reliable, and won't trash the primary (or remaining good) drive if something crashes. I've read too many horror stories of RAID systems that do stuff like reformatting the good drive when a bad drive is replaced & other such nonsense. I'll be using this with XP Pro, so Vista isn't an issue. Thanks! Doug White Stay away from Adaptec. 3ware has a good reputation, but can you name a single problem with an adaptec 2420SA? I can name you a lot with the 2410SA. Non-functional commandline-interface that does not allow any automatisation. Keeps dropping drives. Takes forever to resync. No SMART support despite claims to the contrary. Incompetent technical support. Expensive trash. I can't speak for their RAID cards, but the SCSI card in my old desktop was flaky from day one. After numerous tech support equiries, driver & firmware updates, it still bluescreens my computer occasionally. why didn't you replace it then? "look my computer is broken. I don't do anything about it though!" |
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Good RAID for New Desktop Machine?
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Cydrome Leader wrote:
In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner wrote: In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Cydrome Leader wrote: In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner wrote: In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Cydrome Leader wrote: In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner wrote: In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Doug White wrote: I need to get a new desktop machine, and I'm planning on getting a card to support RAID mirroring in case of a disk crash. My wife has a 6 month old Dell that she bought with some brand of card & 2 drives, but Dell didn't install the card. We discovered that the first thing the card wants to do is reformat your primary drive, which is absurd. We sent it back and got a card from Promise. It took a few tech support calls to get it installed & working properly. Even now, it wants to go to the setup menu every time you boot. Does anyone have a recommendation for a good RAID card? I'd like to get one that is reliable, and won't trash the primary (or remaining good) drive if something crashes. I've read too many horror stories of RAID systems that do stuff like reformatting the good drive when a bad drive is replaced & other such nonsense. I'll be using this with XP Pro, so Vista isn't an issue. Thanks! Doug White Stay away from Adaptec. 3ware has a good reputation, but can you name a single problem with an adaptec 2420SA? I can name you a lot with the 2410SA. Non-functional commandline-interface that does not allow any automatisation. Keeps dropping drives. Takes forever to resync. No SMART support despite claims to the contrary. Incompetent technical support. Expensive trash. Arno never had a drive drop or resync problems, and i've intentionally broken arrays by yanking out the sata cables on a live system. what firmware versions are you running? As this thing was unusable and I had to get the storage running, it has been disposed of by now, I expect. I bought it 4 years ago. This card didn't even exist 4 years ago. Maybe it was 3 years. I diod nto invest a lot of time into it after I had to rip it out of the server because it did not work well. Arno |
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Good RAID for New Desktop Machine?
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Cydrome Leader wrote:
In comp.arch.storage Franc Zabkar wrote: On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 21:41:36 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader put finger to keyboard and composed: In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner wrote: In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Cydrome Leader wrote: In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner wrote: In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Cydrome Leader wrote: In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner wrote: In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Doug White wrote: I can name you a lot with the 2410SA. Non-functional commandline-interface that does not allow any automatisation. Keeps dropping drives. Takes forever to resync. No SMART support despite claims to the contrary. Incompetent technical support. Expensive trash. Arno never had a drive drop or resync problems, and i've intentionally broken arrays by yanking out the sata cables on a live system. what firmware versions are you running? As this thing was unusable and I had to get the storage running, it has been disposed of by now, I expect. I bought it 4 years ago. This card didn't even exist 4 years ago. Product Reviews - Hard disks - Adaptec Serial ATA RAID 2410SA: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/50553...id-2410sa.html a 2420sa isn't a 2410sa, kind of like how 3 isn't equal to 7 Both are numbers. If looking at a 3 strongly suggets the people producing it cannot count, the same is likely true for the 7. Oh, and BTW, you have just been caught in a lie. Anything you say now is suspect. Arno |
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Good RAID for New Desktop Machine?
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Franc Zabkar wrote:
On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 21:41:36 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader put finger to keyboard and composed: In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner wrote: In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Cydrome Leader wrote: In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner wrote: In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Cydrome Leader wrote: In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner wrote: In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Doug White wrote: I can name you a lot with the 2410SA. Non-functional commandline-interface that does not allow any automatisation. Keeps dropping drives. Takes forever to resync. No SMART support despite claims to the contrary. Incompetent technical support. Expensive trash. Arno never had a drive drop or resync problems, and i've intentionally broken arrays by yanking out the sata cables on a live system. what firmware versions are you running? As this thing was unusable and I had to get the storage running, it has been disposed of by now, I expect. I bought it 4 years ago. This card didn't even exist 4 years ago. Product Reviews - Hard disks - Adaptec Serial ATA RAID 2410SA: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/50553...id-2410sa.html PC Pro ISSUE: 111 DATE: Jan 04 Thanks. Seems some people are shamelessly lying just to give the impression some others are wrong. Disgusting. Arno |
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