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K8V SE Deluxe + Antec Case = no power fan speed and no front 1394?
Hi All,
I have a 1 month old K8V SE Deluxe and Antec SX1040-II case. This combination works really well and the extra cooling fans are a nice bonus. However I have 2 problems which I'd like a little feedback on before I raise it with the vendor: 1. The PSU has a sense wire for the motherboard so I can detect/monitor the PSU fan speed. This doesn't work. In fact, no fan I plug into the motherboard's "Power Fan" connector detects the speed. Yes, I'm using fans with the sense wire that I know work - I can get a fan speed using the "Case Fan" connector on the same motherboard. Have I missed some funky BIOS feature or do other people have problems with this too? 2. The front FireWire connector doesn't work at all. Nothing I plug it into the front FireWire port is detected. The USB2 connectors work, and yes, I've tested the FireWire devices on the hard-wired connector on the back - success Seems the wiring for the front FireWire port on my Antec case might be wrong. The K8V came with an extra bracket+lead for a 2nd rear FireWire port - this one works fine. Just the case FireWire is screwy. Any ideas folks? Looks like the mobo power fan sense is fubar, but I might be able to re-wire the case's FireWire connector. I'd really prefer to keep the case, it took me ages to wire everything up nice and neat. The mobo OTOH I can swap in-and-out relatively easily. Cheers, James -- If you're going to do something tonight that you'll be sorry for tomorrow morning, sleep late. -- Henny Youngman |
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In article , Centurion
wrote: Hi All, I have a 1 month old K8V SE Deluxe and Antec SX1040-II case. This combination works really well and the extra cooling fans are a nice bonus. However I have 2 problems which I'd like a little feedback on before I raise it with the vendor: 1. The PSU has a sense wire for the motherboard so I can detect/monitor the PSU fan speed. This doesn't work. In fact, no fan I plug into the motherboard's "Power Fan" connector detects the speed. Yes, I'm using fans with the sense wire that I know work - I can get a fan speed using the "Case Fan" connector on the same motherboard. Have I missed some funky BIOS feature or do other people have problems with this too? 2. The front FireWire connector doesn't work at all. Nothing I plug it into the front FireWire port is detected. The USB2 connectors work, and yes, I've tested the FireWire devices on the hard-wired connector on the back - success Seems the wiring for the front FireWire port on my Antec case might be wrong. The K8V came with an extra bracket+lead for a 2nd rear FireWire port - this one works fine. Just the case FireWire is screwy. Any ideas folks? Looks like the mobo power fan sense is fubar, but I might be able to re-wire the case's FireWire connector. I'd really prefer to keep the case, it took me ages to wire everything up nice and neat. The mobo OTOH I can swap in-and-out relatively easily. Cheers, James The nice picture in your Asus manual, shows the board uses the Winbond-usa.com W83697HF. The datasheet is he http://winbond-usa.com/products/winb...html?name=PCIC http://winbond-usa.com/products/winb...C/w83697hf.pdf On page 100 of the document, you can see there are only two fan speed sensor connections. That would explain why the third connector has nothing connected to the speed pin. As for the Firewire, I have several Antec cases, and on one of them, the Firewire data pins are reversed. Something like TPA+ and TPA- are swapped with each other. TPB+ and TPB- are swapped with each other. This is not fatal, and shouldn't burn anything, but I doubt Firewire was designed with inversion detection for problems like this. (Watch out if VP/VG are miswired! Expensive Firewire toys could die.) Antec has had the odd web page, explaining their mistakes, but they redesign their web site enough, that links to these pages are dead. Since case manufacturers in general have a bad record with respect to miswiring the case front panel, I recommend using an ohmmeter and readily available pinout info on the Internet, to buzz out and verify exactly what wiring is in the case. I'm so sick of miswired cases, that when I got my Antec Sonata, I simply ripped out the module that came with the case, meaning three less cables dangling around loose inside :-) Since my computers live on top of my computer desk, the connectors on the back are readily accessible when I need them. My desk is huge - I built it myself :-) Many case manufacturers continue to ship cases with USB 1.1 only wiring on the front panel. Even though we are firmly in a USB 2.0 age, they insist on shipping crappy wiring. Caveat emptor. HTH, Paul |
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"Centurion" wrote in message ... Hi All, I have a 1 month old K8V SE Deluxe and Antec SX1040-II case. This combination works really well and the extra cooling fans are a nice bonus. However I have 2 problems which I'd like a little feedback on before I raise it with the vendor: 1. The PSU has a sense wire for the motherboard so I can detect/monitor the PSU fan speed. This doesn't work. In fact, no fan I plug into the motherboard's "Power Fan" connector detects the speed. Yes, I'm using fans with the sense wire that I know work - I can get a fan speed using the "Case Fan" connector on the same motherboard. Have I missed some funky BIOS feature or do other people have problems with this too? 2. The front FireWire connector doesn't work at all. Nothing I plug it into the front FireWire port is detected. The USB2 connectors work, and yes, I've tested the FireWire devices on the hard-wired connector on the back - success Seems the wiring for the front FireWire port on my Antec case might be wrong. The K8V came with an extra bracket+lead for a 2nd rear FireWire port - this one works fine. Just the case FireWire is screwy. Any ideas folks? Looks like the mobo power fan sense is fubar, but I might be able to re-wire the case's FireWire connector. I'd really prefer to keep the case, it took me ages to wire everything up nice and neat. The mobo OTOH I can swap in-and-out relatively easily. Cheers, James -- If you're going to do something tonight that you'll be sorry for tomorrow morning, sleep late. -- Henny Youngman I plugged a fan into the power fan connector on my K8V-SE DLX MB and it didn't show the speed either. I looked thru the BIOS and it doesn't have any settings for the power fan. The other two you can set to ignore. Also the manual doesn't show any settings for it either. Both fire wire ports work on my MB. Jim M |
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"Centurion" wrote in message ... Hi All, I have a 1 month old K8V SE Deluxe and Antec SX1040-II case. This combination works really well and the extra cooling fans are a nice bonus. However I have 2 problems which I'd like a little feedback on before I raise it with the vendor: 1. The PSU has a sense wire for the motherboard so I can detect/monitor the PSU fan speed. This doesn't work. In fact, no fan I plug into the motherboard's "Power Fan" connector detects the speed. Yes, I'm using fans with the sense wire that I know work - I can get a fan speed using the "Case Fan" connector on the same motherboard. Have I missed some funky BIOS feature or do other people have problems with this too? 2. The front FireWire connector doesn't work at all. Nothing I plug it into the front FireWire port is detected. The USB2 connectors work, and yes, I've tested the FireWire devices on the hard-wired connector on the back - success Seems the wiring for the front FireWire port on my Antec case might be wrong. The K8V came with an extra bracket+lead for a 2nd rear FireWire port - this one works fine. Just the case FireWire is screwy. Any ideas folks? Looks like the mobo power fan sense is fubar, but I might be able to re-wire the case's FireWire connector. I'd really prefer to keep the case, it took me ages to wire everything up nice and neat. The mobo OTOH I can swap in-and-out relatively easily. Cheers, James -- If you're going to do something tonight that you'll be sorry for tomorrow morning, sleep late. -- Henny Youngman I love my antec case (tho it's not the same as the one you have).. mine had some serious problems (that antec didnt want to talk about).. The notch for relasing my front panel wasnt added on the units side door.. so when the door was on the front panel couldnt be removed (in fact, it put the front panel in such a bind that I am lucky it didnt break).. so I had to cut my case.. My (I think) usb cables were incorrectly labled too.. They simply sent me an email saying "here is the lables you have on your wires" and I said no and told them what I had and they told me I was wrong lol.. I KNOW that many of their old front pcb's for the usb stuff had to be replaced because it didnt work with usb2.0 but I havent ever heard of any firewire problems (is the stuff working from the asus firewire connector?).. You might have to check their connections against the antec one to figgure out the correct sequence.. |
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Not sure about the fan Connector...I have the same board and all three work
fine (One CPU fan, One Pwr Fan and one Chassis Fan). If you have Cool 'n Quiet enabled, not all fans will run at all times. When the Mobo/case heat reaches the predetermined limit for each fan, then the fans will turn. On the P160, the front Firewire pins are labeled wrong...here is the answer as posted on the ANTEC website: *What is the correct color code for the firewire connection from the front panel?* The color code for the firewire connection is as follows: VP = white VG = black/white and black TPA- = blue TPA+ = yellow TPB- = green TPB+ = yellow/black Use this as your guide and your front Firewire should work. Bobby "rstlne" wrote in message ... "Centurion" wrote in message ... Hi All, I have a 1 month old K8V SE Deluxe and Antec SX1040-II case. This combination works really well and the extra cooling fans are a nice bonus. However I have 2 problems which I'd like a little feedback on before I raise it with the vendor: 1. The PSU has a sense wire for the motherboard so I can detect/monitor the PSU fan speed. This doesn't work. In fact, no fan I plug into the motherboard's "Power Fan" connector detects the speed. Yes, I'm using fans with the sense wire that I know work - I can get a fan speed using the "Case Fan" connector on the same motherboard. Have I missed some funky BIOS feature or do other people have problems with this too? 2. The front FireWire connector doesn't work at all. Nothing I plug it into the front FireWire port is detected. The USB2 connectors work, and yes, I've tested the FireWire devices on the hard-wired connector on the back - success Seems the wiring for the front FireWire port on my Antec case might be wrong. The K8V came with an extra bracket+lead for a 2nd rear FireWire port - this one works fine. Just the case FireWire is screwy. Any ideas folks? Looks like the mobo power fan sense is fubar, but I might be able to re-wire the case's FireWire connector. I'd really prefer to keep the case, it took me ages to wire everything up nice and neat. The mobo OTOH I can swap in-and-out relatively easily. Cheers, James -- If you're going to do something tonight that you'll be sorry for tomorrow morning, sleep late. -- Henny Youngman I love my antec case (tho it's not the same as the one you have).. mine had some serious problems (that antec didnt want to talk about).. The notch for relasing my front panel wasnt added on the units side door.. so when the door was on the front panel couldnt be removed (in fact, it put the front panel in such a bind that I am lucky it didnt break).. so I had to cut my case.. My (I think) usb cables were incorrectly labled too.. They simply sent me an email saying "here is the lables you have on your wires" and I said no and told them what I had and they told me I was wrong lol.. I KNOW that many of their old front pcb's for the usb stuff had to be replaced because it didnt work with usb2.0 but I havent ever heard of any firewire problems (is the stuff working from the asus firewire connector?).. You might have to check their connections against the antec one to figgure out the correct sequence.. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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"NoNoBadDog!" mysocks_bjsledge_AT_pixi.com wrote:
Not sure about the fan Connector...I have the same board and all three work fine (One CPU fan, One Pwr Fan and one Chassis Fan). If you have Cool 'n Quiet enabled, not all fans will run at all times. When the Mobo/case heat reaches the predetermined limit for each fan, then the fans will turn. On the P160, the front Firewire pins are labeled wrong...here is the answer as posted on the ANTEC website: *What is the correct color code for the firewire connection from the front panel?* The color code for the firewire connection is as follows: VP = white VG = black/white and black TPA- = blue TPA+ = yellow TPB- = green TPB+ = yellow/black Use this as your guide and your front Firewire should work. Bobby Thanks for that. I did the re-wire (all the TP?+/- were opposite to the mobo header) but still no joy. I think I'll just rewire a whole new lead straight from the front so it matches the Asus lead. No biggie, I'm comfortable with soldering irons and wire cutters James -- Maturity is only a short break in adolescence. -- Jules Feiffer |
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Let me know how it goes...would like to know what the correct pin out is
myself. Bobby "Centurion" wrote in message ... "NoNoBadDog!" mysocks_bjsledge_AT_pixi.com wrote: Not sure about the fan Connector...I have the same board and all three work fine (One CPU fan, One Pwr Fan and one Chassis Fan). If you have Cool 'n Quiet enabled, not all fans will run at all times. When the Mobo/case heat reaches the predetermined limit for each fan, then the fans will turn. On the P160, the front Firewire pins are labeled wrong...here is the answer as posted on the ANTEC website: *What is the correct color code for the firewire connection from the front panel?* The color code for the firewire connection is as follows: VP = white VG = black/white and black TPA- = blue TPA+ = yellow TPB- = green TPB+ = yellow/black Use this as your guide and your front Firewire should work. Bobby Thanks for that. I did the re-wire (all the TP?+/- were opposite to the mobo header) but still no joy. I think I'll just rewire a whole new lead straight from the front so it matches the Asus lead. No biggie, I'm comfortable with soldering irons and wire cutters James -- Maturity is only a short break in adolescence. -- Jules Feiffer -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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In article , Centurion
wrote: "NoNoBadDog!" mysocks_bjsledge_AT_pixi.com wrote: Not sure about the fan Connector...I have the same board and all three work fine (One CPU fan, One Pwr Fan and one Chassis Fan). If you have Cool 'n Quiet enabled, not all fans will run at all times. When the Mobo/case heat reaches the predetermined limit for each fan, then the fans will turn. On the P160, the front Firewire pins are labeled wrong...here is the answer as posted on the ANTEC website: *What is the correct color code for the firewire connection from the front panel?* The color code for the firewire connection is as follows: VP = white VG = black/white and black TPA- = blue TPA+ = yellow TPB- = green TPB+ = yellow/black Use this as your guide and your front Firewire should work. Bobby Thanks for that. I did the re-wire (all the TP?+/- were opposite to the mobo header) but still no joy. I think I'll just rewire a whole new lead straight from the front so it matches the Asus lead. No biggie, I'm comfortable with soldering irons and wire cutters James If you are handy with a soldering iron, you are also handy with an ohmmeter. Just grab a wire, and then use the ohmmeter to sense which Firewire connector pin it is joined to. I figured out the miswiring this way on my own, without ever connecting a Firewire device to it. It was only later that I found out that Antec had a web page admitting the mistake. Page 37 of this document, has the nicest picture of the Firewire pinout. The rest of the pinouts on the web, don't indicate which view of the connector you are looking at. This one is much clearer. (Page 34 has the USB pinout.) http://developer.apple.com/documenta...PowerMacG4.pdf HTH, Paul |
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Paul
Thanks for the catch on this one....I have printed the two pages and it now has a permanent place in my reference folder... Bobby "Paul" wrote in message ... In article , Centurion wrote: "NoNoBadDog!" mysocks_bjsledge_AT_pixi.com wrote: Not sure about the fan Connector...I have the same board and all three work fine (One CPU fan, One Pwr Fan and one Chassis Fan). If you have Cool 'n Quiet enabled, not all fans will run at all times. When the Mobo/case heat reaches the predetermined limit for each fan, then the fans will turn. On the P160, the front Firewire pins are labeled wrong...here is the answer as posted on the ANTEC website: *What is the correct color code for the firewire connection from the front panel?* The color code for the firewire connection is as follows: VP = white VG = black/white and black TPA- = blue TPA+ = yellow TPB- = green TPB+ = yellow/black Use this as your guide and your front Firewire should work. Bobby Thanks for that. I did the re-wire (all the TP?+/- were opposite to the mobo header) but still no joy. I think I'll just rewire a whole new lead straight from the front so it matches the Asus lead. No biggie, I'm comfortable with soldering irons and wire cutters James If you are handy with a soldering iron, you are also handy with an ohmmeter. Just grab a wire, and then use the ohmmeter to sense which Firewire connector pin it is joined to. I figured out the miswiring this way on my own, without ever connecting a Firewire device to it. It was only later that I found out that Antec had a web page admitting the mistake. Page 37 of this document, has the nicest picture of the Firewire pinout. The rest of the pinouts on the web, don't indicate which view of the connector you are looking at. This one is much clearer. (Page 34 has the USB pinout.) http://developer.apple.com/documenta...PowerMacG4.pdf HTH, Paul -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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Same exact problem with my board. It does not display the fan speed.
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