Aspect ratio question

Recently bought eVGA 8800GT. Looking to buy 19" LCD, non-widescreen -
these things come in 1280x1024 native resolution, which is aspect
ratio 5:4. Older monitors were 4:3 aspect ratio.

Question - if I run old software on new monitor, can I get the eVGA
8800GT to correct the aspect ratio?

Example - run software at 800x600 (aspect ratio 4:3) on new LCD, I
don't want the software to be stretched vertically by 6% to fill the
entire screen. Instead I would be happy with "letterbox" black
borders at the top (and/or bottom).

Thank you, best regards, Robert.

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Recently bought eVGA 8800GT. Looking to buy 19" LCD, non-widescreen -
these things come in 1280x1024 native resolution, which is aspect
ratio 5:4. Older monitors were 4:3 aspect ratio.

Question - if I run old software on new monitor, can I get the eVGA
8800GT to correct the aspect ratio?

Example - run software at 800x600 (aspect ratio 4:3) on new LCD, I
don't want the software to be stretched vertically by 6% to fill the
entire screen. Instead I would be happy with "letterbox" black
borders at the top (and/or bottom).

Thank you, best regards, Robert.

You can set this option in the nVidia control panel, in the Display section.
Click Change Flat Panel Scaling to Do Not Scale. Any resolutions smaller
than the maximum for the LCD will be displayed with a black border.

RF.

On 16 Mar, 12:33, "RF" wrote:
"rpgs rock dvds" wrote in ...

Recently bought eVGA 8800GT. *Looking to buy 19" LCD, non-widescreen -
these things come in 1280x1024 native resolution, which is aspect
ratio 5:4. *Older monitors were 4:3 aspect ratio.

Question - if I run old software on new monitor, can I get the eVGA
8800GT to correct the aspect ratio?

Example - run software at 800x600 (aspect ratio 4:3) on new LCD, I
don't want the software to be stretched vertically by 6% to fill the
entire screen. *Instead I would be happy with "letterbox" black
borders at the top (and/or bottom).

Thank you, best regards, Robert.

You can set this option in the nVidia control panel, in the Display section.

On 16 Mar, 13:21, Ant wrote:
On 3/16/2008 5:33 AM PT, RF typed:





Recently bought eVGA 8800GT. *Looking to buy 19" LCD, non-widescreen -
these things come in 1280x1024 native resolution, which is aspect
ratio 5:4. *Older monitors were 4:3 aspect ratio.

Question - if I run old software on new monitor, can I get the eVGA
8800GT to correct the aspect ratio?

Example - run software at 800x600 (aspect ratio 4:3) on new LCD, I
don't want the software to be stretched vertically by 6% to fill the
entire screen. *Instead I would be happy with "letterbox" black
borders at the top (and/or bottom).

Thank you, best regards, Robert.

You can set this option in the nVidia control panel, in the Display
section. Click Change Flat Panel Scaling to Do Not Scale. *Any
resolutions smaller than the maximum for the LCD will be displayed with
a black border.

However, this does NOT work with VGA connections. It only works with DVI
connections. I learned this a while ago since I still use old KVM
that only have VGA ports. KVMs with DVI ports are too expensive.
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That's a shame. I'm building a bit of a complicated setup with 2
machines, 2 displays, and a mixture of dvi and vga. I know nothing
about kvm but I have a feeling I ought to learn about it!

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On 3/17/2008 12:07 AM PT, rpgs rock dvds typed:

On 16 Mar, 13:21, Ant wrote:
On 3/16/2008 5:33 AM PT, RF typed:





Recently bought eVGA 8800GT. Looking to buy 19" LCD, non-widescreen -
these things come in 1280x1024 native resolution, which is aspect
ratio 5:4. Older monitors were 4:3 aspect ratio.
Question - if I run old software on new monitor, can I get the eVGA
8800GT to correct the aspect ratio?
Example - run software at 800x600 (aspect ratio 4:3) on new LCD, I
don't want the software to be stretched vertically by 6% to fill the
entire screen. Instead I would be happy with "letterbox" black
borders at the top (and/or bottom).
Thank you, best regards, Robert.
You can set this option in the nVidia control panel, in the Display
section. Click Change Flat Panel Scaling to Do Not Scale. Any
resolutions smaller than the maximum for the LCD will be displayed with
a black border.
However, this does NOT work with VGA connections. It only works with DVI
connections. I learned this a while ago since I still use old KVM
that only have VGA ports. KVMs with DVI ports are too expensive.

That's a shame. I'm building a bit of a complicated setup with 2
machines, 2 displays, and a mixture of dvi and vga. I know nothing
about kvm but I have a feeling I ought to learn about it!

Keyboard, Video, and Mouse switchbox to share these devices with
multiple machines. Beats having extra mice, keyboards, and monitors and
wasting power and space. For example at work, I use three computers with
each of these devices.
Am I missing something? There is always the software route! I know of
quite a few Remote Control Desktop programs. VNC is one. IBM, Computer
Associates, SUN make some software that would do this as well.
Windows has this built in. I always turn it off by default.

On 17 Mar, 07:19, Ant wrote:
On 3/17/2008 12:06 AM PT, rpgs rock dvds typed:





Recently bought eVGA 8800GT. *Looking to buy 19" LCD, non-widescreen -
these things come in 1280x1024 native resolution, which is aspect
ratio 5:4. *Older monitors were 4:3 aspect ratio.
Question - if I run old software on new monitor, can I get the eVGA
8800GT to correct the aspect ratio?
Example - run software at 800x600 (aspect ratio 4:3) on new LCD, I
don't want the software to be stretched vertically by 6% to fill the
entire screen. *Instead I would be happy with "letterbox" black
borders at the top (and/or bottom).
Thank you, best regards, Robert.
You can set this option in the nVidia control panel, in the Display section.
Click Change Flat Panel Scaling to Do Not Scale. *Any resolutions smaller
than the maximum for the LCD will be displayed with a black border.

RF.

Thanks, unfortunately I couldn't find that option, but I'll keep
looking for it!

Are you using DVI connection directly (cable) or VGA, and the latest
NVIDIA driver?
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Hi, right ATM I'm using VGA cable - does the latest nVidia control
panel intelligently remove options such as "flat panel scaling" if it
thinks that you are not using DVI cable? If so, that's prolly why I
can't see it right ATM!

Recently bought eVGA 8800GT. *Looking to buy 19" LCD, non-widescreen -
these things come in 1280x1024 native resolution, which is aspect
ratio 5:4. *Older monitors were 4:3 aspect ratio.
Question - if I run old software on new monitor, can I get the eVGA
8800GT to correct the aspect ratio?
Example - run software at 800x600 (aspect ratio 4:3) on new LCD, I
don't want the software to be stretched vertically by 6% to fill the
entire screen. *Instead I would be happy with "letterbox" black
borders at the top (and/or bottom).
Thank you, best regards, Robert.
You can set this option in the nVidia control panel, in the Display section.
Click Change Flat Panel Scaling to Do Not Scale. *Any resolutions smaller
than the maximum for the LCD will be displayed with a black border.

RF.

Thanks, unfortunately I couldn't find that option, but I'll keep
looking for it!

Are you using DVI connection directly (cable) or VGA, and the latest
NVIDIA driver?

Hi, right ATM I'm using VGA cable - does the latest nVidia control
panel intelligently remove options such as "flat panel scaling" if it
thinks that you are not using DVI cable? If so, that's prolly why I
can't see it right ATM!

That is correct. You need DVI cable for it. No VGA adapters either! Pure
DVI between the video card and LCD monitor (don't think any CRTs have
DVI). NVIDIA driver will detect for this.

Now if you have a monitor that can do both DVI and VGA connections at
the same time, and you have another DVI port on video card to use, then
hook both VGA (a VGA adapter is OK) and DVI to the same monitor. Then,
tell your monitor or driver to switch betwen VGA and DVI connection. Go
to DVI (usually use the driver display change in system tray) if you
want to be able turn off flat panel scaling via driver. I do this with
my Samsung 19" LCD monitor. I rarely use DVI though and it is mainly
for stuff that don't use native resolutions since scaling looks ugly
sometimes. It works well for me.
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On 17 Mar, 19:37, (Ant) wrote:
Recently bought eVGA 8800GT. *Looking to buy 19" LCD, non-widescreen -
these things come in 1280x1024 native resolution, which is aspect
ratio 5:4. *Older monitors were 4:3 aspect ratio.
Question - if I run old software on new monitor, can I get the eVGA
8800GT to correct the aspect ratio?
Example - run software at 800x600 (aspect ratio 4:3) on new LCD, I
don't want the software to be stretched vertically by 6% to fill the
entire screen. *Instead I would be happy with "letterbox" black
borders at the top (and/or bottom).
Thank you, best regards, Robert.
You can set this option in the nVidia control panel, in the Display section.
Click Change Flat Panel Scaling to Do Not Scale. *Any resolutions smaller
than the maximum for the LCD will be displayed with a black border.

RF.

Thanks, unfortunately I couldn't find that option, but I'll keep
looking for it!

Are you using DVI connection directly (cable) or VGA, and the latest
NVIDIA driver?
Hi, right ATM I'm using VGA cable - does the latest nVidia control
panel intelligently remove options such as "flat panel scaling" if it
thinks that you are not using DVI cable? *If so, that's prolly why I
can't see it right ATM!

That is correct. You need DVI cable for it. No VGA adapters either! Pure
DVI between the video card and LCD monitor (don't think any CRTs have
DVI). NVIDIA driver will detect for this.

Now if you have a monitor that can do both DVI and VGA connections at
the same time, and you have another DVI port on video card to use, then
hook both VGA (a VGA adapter is OK) and DVI to the same monitor. Then,
tell your monitor or driver to switch betwen VGA and DVI connection. Go
to DVI (usually use the driver display change in system tray) if you
want to be able turn off flat panel scaling via driver. I do this with
my Samsung 19" LCD monitor. I rarely use DVI though and it is mainly
for stuff that don't use native resolutions since scaling looks ugly
sometimes. It works well for me.
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Hi, thanks a lot for your help. ATM, I have bought a new LCD and
await its arrival. It is a LG L1960TR. The specs say it has both DVI
and VGA input. I have also ordered both DVI and VGA cables, which
arrived today. I will test the monitor and have some fun with the
settings etc!!

Please may I ask a question -- if I run an old game in Windows 98
which tries to display itself in aspect ratio 4:3 (800x600), and I am
using a VGA connection, would the display appear stretched on my new
LCD monitor if its native resolution is aspect ratio 5:4? Perhaps the
monitor has an option whereby you can tell it not to stretch the
image, but display "letterbox black borders" instead, in order to
preserve the 4:3 display?

All the best from Robert.

In article , rpgs rock dvds wrote:
On 17 Mar, 19:37, (Ant) wrote:
Recently bought eVGA 8800GT. =A0Looking to buy 19" LCD, non-widesc=
reen -
these things come in 1280x1024 native resolution, which is aspect
ratio 5:4. =A0Older monitors were 4:3 aspect ratio.
Question - if I run old software on new monitor, can I get the eVG=
A
8800GT to correct the aspect ratio?
Example - run software at 800x600 (aspect ratio 4:3) on new LCD, I=

don't want the software to be stretched vertically by 6% to fill t=
he
entire screen. =A0Instead I would be happy with "letterbox" black
borders at the top (and/or bottom).
Thank you, best regards, Robert.
You can set this option in the nVidia control panel, in the Display=
section.
Click Change Flat Panel Scaling to Do Not Scale. =A0Any resolutions=
smaller
than the maximum for the LCD will be displayed with a black border.=


RF.

Thanks, unfortunately I couldn't find that option, but I'll keep
looking for it!

Are you using DVI connection directly (cable) or VGA, and the latest
NVIDIA driver?
Hi, right ATM I'm using VGA cable - does the latest nVidia control
panel intelligently remove options such as "flat panel scaling" if it
thinks that you are not using DVI cable? =A0If so, that's prolly why I
can't see it right ATM!

That is correct. You need DVI cable for it. No VGA adapters either! Pure
DVI between the video card and LCD monitor (don't think any CRTs have
DVI). NVIDIA driver will detect for this.

Now if you have a monitor that can do both DVI and VGA connections at
the same time, and you have another DVI port on video card to use, then
hook both VGA (a VGA adapter is OK) and DVI to the same monitor. Then,
tell your monitor or driver to switch betwen VGA and DVI connection. Go
to DVI (usually use the driver display change in system tray) if you
want to be able turn off flat panel scaling via driver. I do this with
my Samsung 19" LCD monitor. I rarely use DVI though and it is mainly
for stuff that don't use native resolutions since scaling looks ugly
sometimes. It works well for me.
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Hi, thanks a lot for your help. ATM, I have bought a new LCD and
await its arrival. It is a LG L1960TR. The specs say it has both DVI
and VGA input. I have also ordered both DVI and VGA cables, which
arrived today. I will test the monitor and have some fun with the
settings etc!!

I see no reason to have bought the VGA cable if you bought the DVI one.



Please may I ask a question -- if I run an old game in Windows 98
which tries to display itself in aspect ratio 4:3 (800x600), and I am
using a VGA connection, would the display appear stretched on my new
LCD monitor if its native resolution is aspect ratio 5:4? Perhaps the
monitor has an option whereby you can tell it not to stretch the
image, but display "letterbox black borders" instead, in order to
preserve the 4:3 display?

All the best from Robert.

On 18 Mar, 16:39, (GMAN) wrote:
In article , rpgs rock dvds wrote:





On 17 Mar, 19:37, (Ant) wrote:
Recently bought eVGA 8800GT. =A0Looking to buy 19" LCD, non-widesc=
reen -
these things come in 1280x1024 native resolution, which is aspect
ratio 5:4. =A0Older monitors were 4:3 aspect ratio.
Question - if I run old software on new monitor, can I get the eVG=
A
8800GT to correct the aspect ratio?
Example - run software at 800x600 (aspect ratio 4:3) on new LCD, I=

don't want the software to be stretched vertically by 6% to fill t=
he
entire screen. =A0Instead I would be happy with "letterbox" black
borders at the top (and/or bottom).
Thank you, best regards, Robert.
You can set this option in the nVidia control panel, in the Display=
section.
Click Change Flat Panel Scaling to Do Not Scale. =A0Any resolutions=
smaller
than the maximum for the LCD will be displayed with a black border.=

RF.

Thanks, unfortunately I couldn't find that option, but I'll keep
looking for it!

Are you using DVI connection directly (cable) or VGA, and the latest
NVIDIA driver?
Hi, right ATM I'm using VGA cable - does the latest nVidia control
panel intelligently remove options such as "flat panel scaling" if it
thinks that you are not using DVI cable? =A0If so, that's prolly why I
can't see it right ATM!

That is correct. You need DVI cable for it. No VGA adapters either! Pure
DVI between the video card and LCD monitor (don't think any CRTs have
DVI). NVIDIA driver will detect for this.

Now if you have a monitor that can do both DVI and VGA connections at
the same time, and you have another DVI port on video card to use, then
hook both VGA (a VGA adapter is OK) and DVI to the same monitor. Then,
tell your monitor or driver to switch betwen VGA and DVI connection. Go
to DVI (usually use the driver display change in system tray) if you
want to be able turn off flat panel scaling via driver. I do this with
my Samsung 19" LCD monitor. I rarely use DVI though and it is mainly
for stuff that don't use native resolutions since scaling looks ugly
sometimes. It works well for me.
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Hi, thanks a lot for your help. *ATM, I have bought a new LCD and
await its arrival. *It is a LG L1960TR. *The specs say it has both DVI
and VGA input. *I have also ordered both DVI and VGA cables, which
arrived today. *I will test the monitor and have some fun with the
settings etc!!

I see no reason to have bought the VGA cable if you bought the DVI one.





Please may I ask a question -- if I run an old game in Windows 98
which tries to display itself in aspect ratio 4:3 (800x600), and I am
using a VGA connection, would the display appear stretched on my new
LCD monitor if its native resolution is aspect ratio 5:4? *Perhaps the
monitor has an option whereby you can tell it not to stretch the
image, but display "letterbox black borders" instead, in order to
preserve the 4:3 display?

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I'm setting up a system with 2 PCs and 2 monitors, and inside one of
the PCs there are 2 graphics cards! So my system is not a simple one,
and I need quite a few cables, and there will be various options etc.
Quite a headache in fact!