Does ghost support imaging c: to d: on same drive?

Am trying to find the answer to a simple question.
Or some help.

I have a laptop with one drive. Partitioned as "C:" and
"D:". When I boot my 2002 ghost from a floppy I can
select "C" as the partition I want to image but when the
screen goes to the destination only the floppy "A" drive
is listed. There is a drop down beside the A listing that
does not drop down with any more drives.

Drive is ~4G. "C" is ~2G and "D" is ~2G.
"C" contains a fresh win98se install and is than 600 MB.

Thanks...

Randy

"RNelson" wrote in message om...

Rod Speed wrote in message
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Yes, I do it quite a bit on the test system, have lots
of different images in the D partition, basically different
OS and app installs on the bootable C partition.

Cant readily check the screen stuff tho, I've moved on to 2003 now.
The ghost user interface can be rather counterintuitive at times.
If it isnt obvious when you try again knowing it can do it,
sing out again and I'll install it on the test system again.

More below.


RNelson wrote in message
om...

Am trying to find the answer to a simple question.
Or some help.

I have a laptop with one drive. Partitioned as "C:" and
"D:". When I boot my 2002 ghost from a floppy I can
select "C" as the partition I want to image but when the
screen goes to the destination only the floppy "A" drive
is listed. There is a drop down beside the A listing that
does not drop down with any more drives.

Most likely you are attempting to image the
entire physical drive, not the C partition.

When I select partition-image the
first page show the drives. In this case only one.
After selecting the one drive the next page shows
the two partitions, C and D. I can select D.

You should be selecting C there, because
you want to make an image of the C partition.

The next page shows the destination which again only list A.

Maybe because its decided that there isnt enough
room for the image file on the C partition.

If that doesnt fix it, name the exact version of Ghost,
Personal or Enterprise, and whether you are running
that from the rescue floppys or what.

Pretty sure you cant image the C partition from Ghost
2002 Personal when you've run it from the C partition.

I have put Ghost 6 on the test system, and it works
fine putting the image of the C partition on the D
drive, but thats the Enterprise edition.

Ghost 2002 Personal should be around here
somewhere, cant put my hand on it currently tho.

I did this on my daughter's computer by installing
temporarily a second drive, "D". The destination
window gave me more options than just the A drive.

Having to use a second drive is why I asked the
question about muliple partitions on one drive.

Sure. Most likely you're just making an image
of the D partition, not the C partition.

And you should be doing it from the rescue floppys
from memory with Ghost 2002 Personal. You dont
have to do that with Ghost 2003, but from memory
that came with 2003.

Drive is ~4G. "C" is ~2G and "D" is ~2G.
"C" contains a fresh win98se install and is than 600 MB.

"RNelson" wrote in message . com...

Rod Speed wrote in message
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"RNelson" wrote in message
om...

Rod Speed wrote in message
...
Yes, I do it quite a bit on the test system, have lots
of different images in the D partition, basically different
OS and app installs on the bootable C partition.

Cant readily check the screen stuff tho, I've moved on to 2003 now.
The ghost user interface can be rather counterintuitive at times.
If it isnt obvious when you try again knowing it can do it,
sing out again and I'll install it on the test system again.

More below.


RNelson wrote in message
om...

Am trying to find the answer to a simple question.
Or some help.

I have a laptop with one drive. Partitioned as "C:" and
"D:". When I boot my 2002 ghost from a floppy I can
select "C" as the partition I want to image but when the
screen goes to the destination only the floppy "A" drive
is listed. There is a drop down beside the A listing that
does not drop down with any more drives.

Most likely you are attempting to image the
entire physical drive, not the C partition.

When I select partition-image the
first page show the drives. In this case only one.
After selecting the one drive the next page shows
the two partitions, C and D. I can select D.

You should be selecting C there, because
you want to make an image of the C partition.

Correct. Typo error.

The next page shows the destination which again only list A.

Maybe because its decided that there isnt enough
room for the image file on the C partition.

Thought that to. That is why I divided my drive into two equal
partitions. Also "C" only contains 600MB of data.


If that doesnt fix it, name the exact version of Ghost,
Personal or Enterprise, and whether you are running
that from the rescue floppys or what.
running ghostpe -ver gives Version 7.0 (build=414)

Built bootable floppy from Ghost from Norton System Works 2002,
Professional Edition. How can I determine the version number.

Thats near enough.

Something interesting is I cannot see any drive except
for "A" when booting/running ghost from the above
generated floppy BUT if I run the executable off the
floppy from Windows, the destination page now shows
all by partitions and allows me to select the image name.

OK, looks like some bug/wart etc then.

Simplest approach would be to get 2003, from SystemWorks 2003 Pro.

Has to be the Pro, it aint on the standard Systemworks 2003.

The user interface is substantially improved.

But I thought you should not run from windows because you
would lose any files that are open while you are in Windows.

Correct.

Also thanks for your suggestions. I have been fdisking,
installing for 2 days trying to find a way to archive a
fresh win98. I've also tried xxcopy (another thread in this
newsgroup, but am also having problems with xxcopy).

What you want to do, image the C partition
to the D partition is certainly doable. Must be
some sort of bug/wart in 2002 or something.

Likely the D partition isnt completely standard
so Ghost gets substantially confused when you
run it from the bootable floppys.

Pretty sure you cant image the C partition from Ghost
2002 Personal when you've run it from the C partition.

I have put Ghost 6 on the test system, and it works
fine putting the image of the C partition on the D
drive, but thats the Enterprise edition.

Ghost 2002 Personal should be around here
somewhere, cant put my hand on it currently tho.

I did this on my daughter's computer by installing
temporarily a second drive, "D". The destination
window gave me more options than just the A drive.

Having to use a second drive is why I asked the
question about muliple partitions on one drive.

Sure. Most likely you're just making an image
of the D partition, not the C partition.

And you should be doing it from the rescue floppys
from memory with Ghost 2002 Personal. You dont
have to do that with Ghost 2003, but from memory
that came with 2003.

Drive is ~4G. "C" is ~2G and "D" is ~2G.
"C" contains a fresh win98se install and is than 600 MB.

I frequently do this operation, having 4 partitions on the first drive.
Can copy or image any partition to any other of adequate size.

Ghost 6 or 7 If I recall

It flows as:

Local -- Partition -- Image

Select source drive

Select source Partition

Select destination drive

Select Filename

Cannot try it right now since my Floppy drives are dead, but through
windows, it allows the same. Drives are as windows has allocated the
drive letters. I can boot any of the 4 partitions and image any partition
I am not running from. There may be some file access violations if
imaging the partition you are running from.





On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 20:48:39 GMT, "RNelson" wrote:

Am trying to find the answer to a simple question.
Or some help.

I have a laptop with one drive. Partitioned as "C:" and
"D:". When I boot my 2002 ghost from a floppy I can
select "C" as the partition I want to image but when the
screen goes to the destination only the floppy "A" drive
is listed. There is a drop down beside the A listing that
does not drop down with any more drives.

Drive is ~4G. "C" is ~2G and "D" is ~2G.
"C" contains a fresh win98se install and is than 600 MB.

Thanks...

Randy

Salvatore wrote in message
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I frequently do this operation, having 4 partitions on the first drive.
Can copy or image any partition to any other of adequate size.

Ghost 6 or 7 If I recall

It flows as:


I'm running from a bootable ghost floppy

Local -- Partition -- Image

Select source drive

Select source Partition

Select destination drive

This where the problem shows up. The only thing I see
is a small dropdown menu showing the "A" drive. Nothing else.
The drop down menu will not drop down to anything else.

I have noted that when I run ghost from windows everything
works fine except what I am trying to do is create an image of a
fresh Win98se install and I want to get every file including the
ones opened because I am in Windows.

Using the floppy works fine on another system where I have
"C" and "D" on seperate drives.

The boot floppy was created from "Norton System Works 2000
Professional Edition"

This morning I reformatted C and D reinstalled Win98se again
and then install Ghost from the CD. Created a new bootable
Ghost floppy and am STILL seeing the save problem with the
destination menu page.



Select Filename

Cannot try it right now since my Floppy drives are dead, but through
windows, it allows the same. Drives are as windows has allocated the
drive letters. I can boot any of the 4 partitions and image any partition
I am not running from. There may be some file access violations if
imaging the partition you are running from.





On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 20:48:39 GMT, "RNelson" wrote:

Am trying to find the answer to a simple question.
Or some help.

I have a laptop with one drive. Partitioned as "C:" and
"D:". When I boot my 2002 ghost from a floppy I can
select "C" as the partition I want to image but when the
screen goes to the destination only the floppy "A" drive
is listed. There is a drop down beside the A listing that
does not drop down with any more drives.

Drive is ~4G. "C" is ~2G and "D" is ~2G.
"C" contains a fresh win98se install and is than 600 MB.

Thanks...

Randy

"RNelson" wrote in message . com...

Salvatore wrote in message
...
I frequently do this operation, having 4 partitions on the first drive.
Can copy or image any partition to any other of adequate size.

Ghost 6 or 7 If I recall

It flows as:


I'm running from a bootable ghost floppy

Local -- Partition -- Image

Select source drive

Select source Partition

Select destination drive

This where the problem shows up. The only thing I see
is a small dropdown menu showing the "A" drive. Nothing else.
The drop down menu will not drop down to anything else.

I have noted that when I run ghost from windows everything
works fine except what I am trying to do is create an image of a
fresh Win98se install and I want to get every file including the
ones opened because I am in Windows.

Using the floppy works fine on another system where I have
"C" and "D" on seperate drives.

The boot floppy was created from "Norton System Works 2000
Professional Edition"

This morning I reformatted C and D

You should have deleted both partitions and recreated them
using fdisk. Likely there is something a bit odd about the D
partition that triggers a bug in the Ghost you are using.

reinstalled Win98se again and then install Ghost from the CD.
Created a new bootable Ghost floppy and am STILL seeing
the save problem with the destination menu page.



Select Filename

Cannot try it right now since my Floppy drives are dead, but through
windows, it allows the same. Drives are as windows has allocated the
drive letters. I can boot any of the 4 partitions and image any partition
I am not running from. There may be some file access violations if
imaging the partition you are running from.





On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 20:48:39 GMT, "RNelson" wrote:

Am trying to find the answer to a simple question.
Or some help.

I have a laptop with one drive. Partitioned as "C:" and
"D:". When I boot my 2002 ghost from a floppy I can
select "C" as the partition I want to image but when the
screen goes to the destination only the floppy "A" drive
is listed. There is a drop down beside the A listing that
does not drop down with any more drives.

Drive is ~4G. "C" is ~2G and "D" is ~2G.
"C" contains a fresh win98se install and is than 600 MB.

Thanks...

Randy

RNelson wrote:

Using the floppy works fine on another system where I have
"C" and "D" on seperate drives.

The boot floppy was created from "Norton System Works 2000
Professional Edition"

This morning I reformatted C and D reinstalled Win98se again
and then install Ghost from the CD. Created a new bootable
Ghost floppy and am STILL seeing the save problem with the
destination menu page.

Maybe you have some kind of bios overlay that is preventing ghost from
working. I've been using Ghost for years, starting with version 5.1 and
currently use Ghost 2003 from the floppy. I've never seen Ghost fail to
report local partitions or drives, assuming the version can read the file
type (NTFS, etc). Given the OS and partition sizes, I assume that yours are
FAT32?

Last, are your sure you are selecting only C:\ to image, and not all of
Drive #1, because if you selected to image the entire drive that would
explain why there was no where to sent it to on your single drive system.

Anyway, you might try booting with the ghost floppy, and after the Ghost gui
starts, select Quit. Then you can use the command line.

This would work to make an image of C:\ stored to D:\ (and saved as
"filename.gho"), assuming that C:\ is partition one of drive one (as is
usually the case). The "-z1" means fast compression of the partition image.

A:\ ghost -auto -span -clone,mode=pdump,src=1:1,dst=D:\filename.gho -z1

If you want to check the image integrity from the comand line, it would look
like this:
A:\ ghost -span -chkimg,D:\filename.gho

--
Tony Sivori

On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 20:51:27 GMT, "RNelson" wrote:


Salvatore wrote in message
.. .
I frequently do this operation, having 4 partitions on the first drive.
Can copy or image any partition to any other of adequate size.

Ghost 6 or 7 If I recall

It flows as:


I'm running from a bootable ghost floppy

Local -- Partition -- Image

Select source drive

Select source Partition

Select destination drive

This where the problem shows up. The only thing I see
is a small dropdown menu showing the "A" drive. Nothing else.
The drop down menu will not drop down to anything else.

I have noted that when I run ghost from windows everything
works fine except what I am trying to do is create an image of a
fresh Win98se install and I want to get every file including the
ones opened because I am in Windows.

Using the floppy works fine on another system where I have
"C" and "D" on seperate drives.

The boot floppy was created from "Norton System Works 2000
Professional Edition"

This morning I reformatted C and D reinstalled Win98se again
and then install Ghost from the CD. Created a new bootable
Ghost floppy and am STILL seeing the save problem with the
destination menu page.



Select Filename

Cannot try it right now since my Floppy drives are dead, but through
windows, it allows the same. Drives are as windows has allocated the
drive letters. I can boot any of the 4 partitions and image any partition
I am not running from. There may be some file access violations if
imaging the partition you are running from.





On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 20:48:39 GMT, "RNelson" wrote:

Am trying to find the answer to a simple question.
Or some help.

I have a laptop with one drive. Partitioned as "C:" and
"D:". When I boot my 2002 ghost from a floppy I can
select "C" as the partition I want to image but when the
screen goes to the destination only the floppy "A" drive
is listed. There is a drop down beside the A listing that
does not drop down with any more drives.

Drive is ~4G. "C" is ~2G and "D" is ~2G.
"C" contains a fresh win98se install and is than 600 MB.

Thanks...

Randy



From the floppy, close ghost and use DOS to select the 2 partitions on the
drive. This will tell you if the second partition is visible from DOS.

Quit Ghost and drop to DOS. Does D exist and look OK?

You could try the command line instead:
ghost -clone,mode=pdump,src=1:1,dst=d:\image

"RNelson" wrote in message
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| Am trying to find the answer to a simple question.
| Or some help.
|
| I have a laptop with one drive. Partitioned as "C:" and
| "D:". When I boot my 2002 ghost from a floppy I can
| select "C" as the partition I want to image but when the
| screen goes to the destination only the floppy "A" drive
| is listed. There is a drop down beside the A listing that
| does not drop down with any more drives.
|
| Drive is ~4G. "C" is ~2G and "D" is ~2G.
| "C" contains a fresh win98se install and is than 600 MB.
|