Non-intel benchmarks on Conroe vs AMD's AM2 FX62

On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 14:26:57 -0400, krw wrote:

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On Wed, 31 May 2006 12:07:55 -0400, Keith wrote:

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On Fri, 26 May 2006 09:45:46 -0400, Keith wrote:

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On Wed, 24 May 2006 16:10:23 -0400, Keith wrote:
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Seamonkey? Seamonkey?!!! I've heard opera is goodness too.

Yeah, the name Mozilla was not allowed for the Mozilla suite after Firefox
went live and Mozilla incorporated (or something like that:-)) so they
adopted the name the project had during development: Seamonkey... so it's
basically the further development on the old Mozilla suite. IOW a Netscape
Navigator/E-mail that works.

Thanks. It seems markedly faster. There are a few things I miss
(icons on the toolbar, for one). Exporting my bookmarks from
Firefox into Seamonkey was simple enough. I'll have to put it on
my other systems.

Yeah isn't that funny - Firefox was supposed to be "lean & mean" but
Seamonkey feels faster.

I'm seeing some strange things now with Seamonkey. I've had to go
back to Firefox a couple of times.

I've seen a few strange things with both - can't quite figure what the deal
is with Java versions ro whether that's the problem. Did you mean things
like text blocks overlapping images and neighbouring blocks? I'm still
using Firefox at work and Seamonkey at home and umm, waiting to see where
things go from here. Seems like Firefox 1.5.0.3 is crashing more than
predecessors, which is worrying for on-line buying.

Haven't see that. I sometimes just hangs, sometimes on startup,
sometimes not. That and some very erratic behavior.

I don't get many hangs with Seamonkey - seen a couple... one last week to
some guy http://www.monkeyfood.com/blog/ who is coding his own Quicktime
components, i.e. plugins to a plugin, and testing them out on visitors
(Google picked up on one keyword at that site and I fell in the hole). IE6
gave the 'plugin missing' msg so it could be Quicktime 7 to blame - just
checked and it still hangs after updating to Quicktime 7.1. Sometimes I
wish they'd all quit "enhancing" software that works right.sigh

BTW you're not trying to run Firefox and Seamonkey at the same time?...
that's a no-no... though they can both be installed on the same system
without interfering with each other... or so it is said.shrug

My main
complaint with FF was that it *often* crashes when printing. Since
I print my on-line order forms to PDFs, this is very annoying.

Paperless umm, home - huh?:-) As I glance at all the dead trees around me
here... good idea. What are you using as a PDF writer? Is that a Firefox
"extension" - apparently that's one of the worst things about Firefox:
extensions get broken with new versions... which, with the auto-update
doodad really ****es people off.

I must say I've had lots of problems like that recently, with printing Web
content - one a couple of weeks ago where Firefox (at the office) just died
-- no send report or anything -- when I tried to print a page of PDF
content to a Lexmark network printer. Upgrading Adobe Reader to 7.07 fixed
that... gawd, I am heartily sick of Adobe Reader. It's now so bloated we
need a "Speed Launch".puke

--
Rgds, George Macdonald

In article , fammacd=!
says...
On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 14:26:57 -0400, krw wrote:

In article , fammacd=!
says...
On Wed, 31 May 2006 12:07:55 -0400, Keith wrote:

In article , fammacd=!
says...
On Fri, 26 May 2006 09:45:46 -0400, Keith wrote:

In article , fammacd=!
says...
On Wed, 24 May 2006 16:10:23 -0400, Keith wrote:
snip

Seamonkey? Seamonkey?!!! I've heard opera is goodness too.

Yeah, the name Mozilla was not allowed for the Mozilla suite after Firefox
went live and Mozilla incorporated (or something like that:-)) so they
adopted the name the project had during development: Seamonkey... so it's
basically the further development on the old Mozilla suite. IOW a Netscape
Navigator/E-mail that works.

Thanks. It seems markedly faster. There are a few things I miss
(icons on the toolbar, for one). Exporting my bookmarks from
Firefox into Seamonkey was simple enough. I'll have to put it on
my other systems.

Yeah isn't that funny - Firefox was supposed to be "lean & mean" but
Seamonkey feels faster.

I'm seeing some strange things now with Seamonkey. I've had to go
back to Firefox a couple of times.

I've seen a few strange things with both - can't quite figure what the deal
is with Java versions ro whether that's the problem. Did you mean things
like text blocks overlapping images and neighbouring blocks? I'm still
using Firefox at work and Seamonkey at home and umm, waiting to see where
things go from here. Seems like Firefox 1.5.0.3 is crashing more than
predecessors, which is worrying for on-line buying.

Haven't see that. I sometimes just hangs, sometimes on startup,
sometimes not. That and some very erratic behavior.

I don't get many hangs with Seamonkey - seen a couple... one last week to
some guy http://www.monkeyfood.com/blog/ who is coding his own Quicktime
components, i.e. plugins to a plugin, and testing them out on visitors
(Google picked up on one keyword at that site and I fell in the hole). IE6
gave the 'plugin missing' msg so it could be Quicktime 7 to blame - just
checked and it still hangs after updating to Quicktime 7.1. Sometimes I
wish they'd all quit "enhancing" software that works right.sigh

I don't go anywhere that needs QT. What dreck.

BTW you're not trying to run Firefox and Seamonkey at the same time?...
that's a no-no... though they can both be installed on the same system
without interfering with each other... or so it is said.shrug

Oops. I've done it, but only after Seamonkey falls on its face.
They're both installed on my laptops. Maybe I should ditch FF?

My main
complaint with FF was that it *often* crashes when printing. Since
I print my on-line order forms to PDFs, this is very annoying.

Paperless umm, home - huh?:-)

Um, not _quite_ paperless. ;-)

As I glance at all the dead trees around me
here... good idea. What are you using as a PDF writer? Is that a Firefox
"extension" - apparently that's one of the worst things about Firefox:
extensions get broken with new versions... which, with the auto-update
doodad really ****es people off.

No, I've used PDFCreator for some years. It's one of those things
that works right. Free too.

I must say I've had lots of problems like that recently, with printing Web
content - one a couple of weeks ago where Firefox (at the office) just died
-- no send report or anything -- when I tried to print a page of PDF
content to a Lexmark network printer. Upgrading Adobe Reader to 7.07 fixed
that... gawd, I am heartily sick of Adobe Reader. It's now so bloated we
need a "Speed Launch".puke

I stuck with version 4 as long as I could. Reader 6.0 was too
painful to bother with. Version 7 is worse, but I no longer have
V4. I don't understand what is "improved". Maybe they're going to
come out with a version that works and charge for it.

--
Keith

On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 10:06:09 -0400, krw wrote:

In article , fammacd=!
says...
On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 14:26:57 -0400, krw wrote:

Haven't see that. I sometimes just hangs, sometimes on startup,
sometimes not. That and some very erratic behavior.

I don't get many hangs with Seamonkey - seen a couple... one last week to
some guy http://www.monkeyfood.com/blog/ who is coding his own Quicktime
components, i.e. plugins to a plugin, and testing them out on visitors
(Google picked up on one keyword at that site and I fell in the hole). IE6
gave the 'plugin missing' msg so it could be Quicktime 7 to blame - just
checked and it still hangs after updating to Quicktime 7.1. Sometimes I
wish they'd all quit "enhancing" software that works right.sigh

I don't go anywhere that needs QT. What dreck.

Yeah well, again, it used to be kinda useful sometimes and was not so
bloody intrusive. I still remember the Mars Lander 360 degree views so it
was useful and impressive then.

BTW you're not trying to run Firefox and Seamonkey at the same time?...
that's a no-no... though they can both be installed on the same system
without interfering with each other... or so it is said.shrug

Oops. I've done it, but only after Seamonkey falls on its face.
They're both installed on my laptops. Maybe I should ditch FF?

Maybe I wasn't clear enough - it's OK to have both installed. If Seamonkey
has fallen on its face and is not currently active it should be OK to run
Firefox.

My main
complaint with FF was that it *often* crashes when printing. Since
I print my on-line order forms to PDFs, this is very annoying.

Paperless umm, home - huh?:-)

Um, not _quite_ paperless. ;-)

As I glance at all the dead trees around me
here... good idea. What are you using as a PDF writer? Is that a Firefox
"extension" - apparently that's one of the worst things about Firefox:
extensions get broken with new versions... which, with the auto-update
doodad really ****es people off.

No, I've used PDFCreator for some years. It's one of those things
that works right. Free too.

Amazing - thanks.

I must say I've had lots of problems like that recently, with printing Web
content - one a couple of weeks ago where Firefox (at the office) just died
-- no send report or anything -- when I tried to print a page of PDF
content to a Lexmark network printer. Upgrading Adobe Reader to 7.07 fixed
that... gawd, I am heartily sick of Adobe Reader. It's now so bloated we
need a "Speed Launch".puke

I stuck with version 4 as long as I could. Reader 6.0 was too
painful to bother with. Version 7 is worse, but I no longer have
V4. I don't understand what is "improved". Maybe they're going to
come out with a version that works and charge for it.

I keep getting documents which claim to need a newer version but you're
right... quite why we need vector graphics and animation in a "standard"
document format, escapes me. Now they've borged Shockwave/Flash I expect
things to get worse there too... if that's possible. Trouble is
sales-droids love all the bells 'n' whistles and they're easily conned.

--
Rgds, George Macdonald

On Wed, 24 May 2006 10:32:11 -0400, Keith wrote:


I run 3080(1400+1680) x 1050 on the windows system at home
(1400x1050 and 1600x1200 at work) and let the processor do the
scaling. I still don't have enough desktop (will likely add my
19" CRT at 1280x1024 to the mix at home as soon as I decide on a
graphics card).

You don't want to run a 19" CRT at 1280x1024 as that is a 5:4 ratio which
is what a 19" LCD would use. You want to use 1280x960 which is a 4:3 ratio.

Sean wrote:

On Wed, 24 May 2006 10:32:11 -0400, Keith wrote:

I run 3080(1400+1680) x 1050 on the windows system at home
(1400x1050 and 1600x1200 at work) and let the processor do the
scaling. I still don't have enough desktop (will likely add my
19" CRT at 1280x1024 to the mix at home as soon as I decide on a
graphics card).

You don't want to run a 19" CRT at 1280x1024 as that is a 5:4 ratio which
is what a 19" LCD would use. You want to use 1280x960 which is a 4:3 ratio.

Well, the slight horizontal stretch that you get running 1280x1024
isn't the end of the world...

I have a 19" CRT at work and run at 1152x864. To me, having things
comfortably large is more important than having more pixels. I like
to lean back.

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lid says...
Sean wrote:

On Wed, 24 May 2006 10:32:11 -0400, Keith wrote:

I run 3080(1400+1680) x 1050 on the windows system at home
(1400x1050 and 1600x1200 at work) and let the processor do the
scaling. I still don't have enough desktop (will likely add my
19" CRT at 1280x1024 to the mix at home as soon as I decide on a
graphics card).

You don't want to run a 19" CRT at 1280x1024 as that is a 5:4 ratio which
is what a 19" LCD would use. You want to use 1280x960 which is a 4:3 ratio.

When I got my first 19" display ('99) 1280x1024 was the standard
resolution above 1024x768. I guess I never went back to think
about it. Good point.

Well, the slight horizontal stretch that you get running 1280x1024
isn't the end of the world...

It is a good point though. The reason I was considering using the
Viewsonic was precisely for photographs. Any distortion is
badness.

I have a 19" CRT at work and run at 1152x864. To me, having things
comfortably large is more important than having more pixels. I like
to lean back.

If I want large I simply select a larger font (and I'm over an
arm's length from the display now). I generally want to cram as
many characters (and windows) on the screen as possible. I never
have a full-screen window displayed. Different strokes.

--
Keith