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Further Advice Sought
To All Cognoscenti,
In my recent message on the subject "Expert Advice Sought" I reported that the local outfit that had built my computer for me removed the tiny fan from the slide-out cage containing the HDD, and that the HDD subsequently failed. Further checking by me has revealed that the "Health Status" of my computer, as reported by the CMOS Setup Utility, shows that the CPU Warning Temperature and the CPU Fan Fail Warning were both disabled. Please indicate to me any reasons why a seller of computers would want to disable these warnings and remove the cooling fan from the slide-out cage containing a HDD. What action do you advise me to take? The CMOS Setup Utility shows the following values: Current System Temperature 40 C Current CPU Temperature 64 C Current CPU Fan Speed 3240 RPM Are these values normal? Your guidance to this non-technical computer user would be much appreciated. Andy |
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wolfgang schneider wrote:
In article x8hLe.174748$HI.65829@edtnps84, The CMOS Setup Utility shows the following values: Current System Temperature 40 C Current CPU Temperature 64 C Current CPU Fan Speed 3240 RPM Are these values normal? depends if you are at northern russia or the mojave , but i wouldn't accept this temperatures as normal working temp. They're high (the CPU especially), but within working range if the PC has been on a while. i have now in southern-germany : outdoors ~ 21 C° systemcase 24 C° cpu 29 C° mainboard 26 C° Those are really low... very low - has the system only just been turned on ? Normal real world figures for a healthy pc after its been used for an hour a mainboard/system 30-50 cpu 40-70 hdd 30-50 Alot depends on the barnd of CPU, motherbaord, HDD and ambient temp, -- Mike |
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Andy wrote
To All Cognoscenti, I'm still not a wog. In my recent message on the subject "Expert Advice Sought" I reported that the local outfit that had built my computer for me removed the tiny fan from the slide-out cage containing the HDD, and that the HDD subsequently failed. Further checking by me has revealed that the "Health Status" of my computer, as reported by the CMOS Setup Utility, shows that the CPU Warning Temperature and the CPU Fan Fail Warning were both disabled. Please indicate to me any reasons why a seller of computers would want to disable these warnings They often default to disabled. and remove the cooling fan from the slide-out cage containing a HDD. It may not have ever had the fan fitted, the cheapest version often doesnt. What action do you advise me to take? Measure the SMART temperature of the drive using Everest and get a new removable drive carrier with a decent fan if the temperature is higher than 45 C in the summer. The CMOS Setup Utility shows the following values: Current System Temperature 40 C Current CPU Temperature 64 C Current CPU Fan Speed 3240 RPM Are these values normal? Yes, with an Intel Prescott cpu or an AMD. Your guidance to this non-technical computer user would be much appreciated. |
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Hi Rod,
"Rod Speed" wrote in message ... Andy wrote To All Cognoscenti, I'm still not a wog. In my recent message on the subject "Expert Advice Sought" I reported that the local outfit that had built my computer for me removed the tiny fan from the slide-out cage containing the HDD, and that the HDD subsequently failed. Further checking by me has revealed that the "Health Status" of my computer, as reported by the CMOS Setup Utility, shows that the CPU Warning Temperature and the CPU Fan Fail Warning were both disabled. Please indicate to me any reasons why a seller of computers would want to disable these warnings They often default to disabled. Shouldn't the builder enable them before delivering the machine? and remove the cooling fan from the slide-out cage containing a HDD. It may not have ever had the fan fitted, the cheapest version often doesnt. According to the builder, he removed the fan. What action do you advise me to take? Measure the SMART temperature of the drive using Everest and get a new removable drive carrier with a decent fan if the temperature is higher than 45 C in the summer. The replacement drive will go into the case and not into a slide-out cage. I've already got Everest, but I have to rebuild my system first. The CMOS Setup Utility shows the following values: Current System Temperature 40 C Current CPU Temperature 64 C Current CPU Fan Speed 3240 RPM Are these values normal? Yes, with an Intel Prescott cpu or an AMD. My CPU is an AMD XP2600+ (2.08 MGHz). Your guidance to this non-technical computer user would be much appreciated. |
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Andy wrote
Rod Speed wrote Andy wrote In my recent message on the subject "Expert Advice Sought" I reported that the local outfit that had built my computer for me removed the tiny fan from the slide-out cage containing the HDD, and that the HDD subsequently failed. Further checking by me has revealed that the "Health Status" of my computer, as reported by the CMOS Setup Utility, shows that the CPU Warning Temperature and the CPU Fan Fail Warning were both disabled. Please indicate to me any reasons why a seller of computers would want to disable these warnings They often default to disabled. Shouldn't the builder enable them before delivering the machine? Really depends on the system. Some will shut down auto on over temp. and remove the cooling fan from the slide-out cage containing a HDD. It may not have ever had the fan fitted, the cheapest version often doesnt. According to the builder, he removed the fan. See the other post. What action do you advise me to take? Measure the SMART temperature of the drive using Everest and get a new removable drive carrier with a decent fan if the temperature is higher than 45 C in the summer. The replacement drive will go into the case and not into a slide-out cage. I've already got Everest, but I have to rebuild my system first. Still worth checking the drive temp after you've done that. The CMOS Setup Utility shows the following values: Current System Temperature 40 C Current CPU Temperature 64 C Current CPU Fan Speed 3240 RPM Are these values normal? Yes, with an Intel Prescott cpu or an AMD. My CPU is an AMD XP2600+ (2.08 MGHz). Yeah, they do run on the warm side, so thats normal. Your guidance to this non-technical computer user would be much appreciated. |
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On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 20:45:35 +1000, in
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage , "Rod Speed" in wrote: Andy wrote To All Cognoscenti, I'm still not a wog. In my recent message on the subject "Expert Advice Sought" I reported that the local outfit that had built my computer for me removed the tiny fan from the slide-out cage containing the HDD, and that the HDD subsequently failed. Further checking by me has revealed that the "Health Status" of my computer, as reported by the CMOS Setup Utility, shows that the CPU Warning Temperature and the CPU Fan Fail Warning were both disabled. Please indicate to me any reasons why a seller of computers would want to disable these warnings They often default to disabled. and remove the cooling fan from the slide-out cage containing a HDD. It may not have ever had the fan fitted, the cheapest version often doesnt. What action do you advise me to take? Measure the SMART temperature of the drive using Everest and get a new removable drive carrier with a decent fan if the temperature is higher than 45 C in the summer. I have a Dell Optiplex 270, small form factor, and Everest does not give me any temperature readings, not for the drive, not under sensor. Am I doing something wrong here? -- Matt Silberstein Well ya see, Norm, it's like this. A herd of buffalo can only move as fast as the slowest buffalo. And when the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members. In much the same way, the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells. Excessive intake of alcohol, as we know, kills brain cells. But naturally, it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first. In this way, regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine. That's why you always feel smarter after a few beers. Cliff on Cheers |
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Matt Silberstein wrote:
On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 20:45:35 +1000, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage , "Rod Speed" in wrote: Andy wrote To All Cognoscenti, I'm still not a wog. In my recent message on the subject "Expert Advice Sought" I reported that the local outfit that had built my computer for me removed the tiny fan from the slide-out cage containing the HDD, and that the HDD subsequently failed. Further checking by me has revealed that the "Health Status" of my computer, as reported by the CMOS Setup Utility, shows that the CPU Warning Temperature and the CPU Fan Fail Warning were both disabled. Please indicate to me any reasons why a seller of computers would want to disable these warnings They often default to disabled. and remove the cooling fan from the slide-out cage containing a HDD. It may not have ever had the fan fitted, the cheapest version often doesnt. What action do you advise me to take? Measure the SMART temperature of the drive using Everest and get a new removable drive carrier with a decent fan if the temperature is higher than 45 C in the summer. I have a Dell Optiplex 270, small form factor, and Everest does not give me any temperature readings, not for the drive, not under sensor. Am I doing something wrong here? Nar, most likely you have one of the drives that was very late to have the drive temperature in the SMART data. The most common drives like that were the WDs, WD was very later with drive temperature in the SMART data, last of the mainstream drive manufacturers. |
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On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 04:51:08 +1000, in
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage , "Rod Speed" in wrote: Matt Silberstein wrote: On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 20:45:35 +1000, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage , "Rod Speed" in wrote: Andy wrote To All Cognoscenti, I'm still not a wog. In my recent message on the subject "Expert Advice Sought" I reported that the local outfit that had built my computer for me removed the tiny fan from the slide-out cage containing the HDD, and that the HDD subsequently failed. Further checking by me has revealed that the "Health Status" of my computer, as reported by the CMOS Setup Utility, shows that the CPU Warning Temperature and the CPU Fan Fail Warning were both disabled. Please indicate to me any reasons why a seller of computers would want to disable these warnings They often default to disabled. and remove the cooling fan from the slide-out cage containing a HDD. It may not have ever had the fan fitted, the cheapest version often doesnt. What action do you advise me to take? Measure the SMART temperature of the drive using Everest and get a new removable drive carrier with a decent fan if the temperature is higher than 45 C in the summer. I have a Dell Optiplex 270, small form factor, and Everest does not give me any temperature readings, not for the drive, not under sensor. Am I doing something wrong here? Nar, most likely you have one of the drives that was very late to have the drive temperature in the SMART data. The most common drives like that were the WDs, WD was very later with drive temperature in the SMART data, last of the mainstream drive manufacturers. Yeah. Darm. Thanks. -- Matt Silberstein Well ya see, Norm, it's like this. A herd of buffalo can only move as fast as the slowest buffalo. And when the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members. In much the same way, the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells. Excessive intake of alcohol, as we know, kills brain cells. But naturally, it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first. In this way, regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine. That's why you always feel smarter after a few beers. Cliff on Cheers |
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