II LooK @W7

Thing is kicking my ass, between the NT bootloader, special
crypt-locker security crap, hidden partiton, and the install. Round
and round, some more we go.

Trying to position it at advantage to where I can get it just right
and nail it with a binary sector backup. Uh huh.

Nooo way. Installed it half a dozen times, and it's a real Genuine
Product BITCH about going either after any/what&however HDDs for
either that 100M "security" partition thingy, (seems want lay in the
security partition if any available/RAW data is available on ANY
drive), or takes a double-down and stomp approach/load, without out
security partion, on most any Primary Partition - especially seems to
like pre-loaded Boot Arbitors - smashed all too aplomb anything other
than its own NT-Loader (rolled into GRUB, of all ungodly things).

Real bitchy/picky about paritions, even its own lousy middlings, as
well (had to figure to back partway out after partitioning in the
intall screen, and go back in directly after to overcome it's spitting
out error codes).

Install is overall a nightmare. Copied the DVD to a SDD but it won't
take/run, at least for me, without a DVD. Hm.

I'm not sure, still trying, if I can add it for a measely 3 OS on 3
SDD PrimPart's. Sure would be a hell of a lot easier if the whole
install business wasn't so nasty about the time it squats on top my
DVD, stinking up the whole room.

And, hey, I want my own damn boot arbitrator and not MS's - messing up
whatever else -when- it can get its hands on it. IOW - it's a Pull
Your Drives 1st Install, pay lots of attention - as in be real careful
when taking that shoe box of flashdrives and filling them up with
MBR/Parition/Arbitrator utilities amnong alt flashboot OS's and
whatnot. (Some of that crap is no damn good, likely dated/disfunction
too.) Working with a lot of MBR alterations and flying partition
changes on the fly - make a mistake with the wrong utility and worse
ain't half of what a bad mistake means.

Well, everybody's running it. I just like the pain of doing it
differently. Sector/partition backups (did you know it'll puke if you
change/resize the install partition), and haven't even got around to
the MBR for the NT Loader. I can live with keeping them both the same
size, a relative symbiotic placement - once getting down to where it
doesn't mess with ANYTHING else (next stage is SDD only - W7, would
you believe it, actually goes thru! the BIOS's disabling of HDDs and
still "sees" them - figure that, thxs.) I'll be pulling the plugs on
my other HDDs this next time up.

On Mon, 04 Aug 2014 13:18:58 -0400, Flasherly
wrote:

Oh yea. Binary streaming. Got the install down to a 10 minute SSD
HDD imagine, and a 5 minute HDD SDD restore. (Same, thing it's 45
seconds for restoring my XP images - 1.5 minute to make 'em.)

Discounting the NTLoader/parition(?). Haven't figured all the MBR and
whatnot angles.

My old Samsung 60G SDD is across the room and damn its nice a media
center. What I'm thinking is W7 needs its own SSD/HDD, in a whole
another class about how it installs/runs/bak/restore.

Wish I had another, extra-extra 60G SSD. Make things easier.

10 or more year old OS, sure. And installing the latest and greatest
at 3,000KB/s from a DVD now-a-days is so great. Didn't XP come on a
thingy 1/6 that size, once called a C-ee D-ee?

On Mon, 04 Aug 2014 13:18:58 -0400, Flasherly wrote:

| Thing is kicking my ass, between the NT bootloader, special
| crypt-locker security crap, hidden partiton, and the install. Round
| and round, some more we go.
|
| Trying to position it at advantage to where I can get it just right
| and nail it with a binary sector backup. Uh huh.
|
| Nooo way. Installed it half a dozen times, and it's a real Genuine
| Product BITCH about going either after any/what&however HDDs for
| either that 100M "security" partition thingy, (seems want lay in the
| security partition if any available/RAW data is available on ANY
| drive), or takes a double-down and stomp approach/load, without out
| security partion, on most any Primary Partition - especially seems to
| like pre-loaded Boot Arbitors - smashed all too aplomb anything other
| than its own NT-Loader (rolled into GRUB, of all ungodly things).
|
| Real bitchy/picky about paritions, even its own lousy middlings, as
| well (had to figure to back partway out after partitioning in the
| intall screen, and go back in directly after to overcome it's spitting
| out error codes).
|
| Install is overall a nightmare. Copied the DVD to a SDD but it won't
| take/run, at least for me, without a DVD. Hm.
|
| I'm not sure, still trying, if I can add it for a measely 3 OS on 3
| SDD PrimPart's. Sure would be a hell of a lot easier if the whole
| install business wasn't so nasty about the time it squats on top my
| DVD, stinking up the whole room.
|
| And, hey, I want my own damn boot arbitrator and not MS's - messing up
| whatever else -when- it can get its hands on it. IOW - it's a Pull
| Your Drives 1st Install, pay lots of attention - as in be real careful
| when taking that shoe box of flashdrives and filling them up with
| MBR/Parition/Arbitrator utilities amnong alt flashboot OS's and
| whatnot. (Some of that crap is no damn good, likely dated/disfunction
| too.) Working with a lot of MBR alterations and flying partition
| changes on the fly - make a mistake with the wrong utility and worse
| ain't half of what a bad mistake means.
|
| Well, everybody's running it. I just like the pain of doing it
| differently. Sector/partition backups (did you know it'll puke if you
| change/resize the install partition), and haven't even got around to
| the MBR for the NT Loader. I can live with keeping them both the same
| size, a relative symbiotic placement - once getting down to where it
| doesn't mess with ANYTHING else (next stage is SDD only - W7, would
| you believe it, actually goes thru! the BIOS's disabling of HDDs and
| still "sees" them - figure that, thxs.) I'll be pulling the plugs on
| my other HDDs this next time up.

I bypassed W7 except for a laptop and went from XP to W8/8.1 on 2 boxes. It took me
a while to get that beaten into the shape I wanted, but finally did and have been
quite happy with it since. You'll likely get W7 trained to your satisfaction in
time.

Larc

On Mon, 04 Aug 2014 18:36:18 -0400, Larc
wrote:

You'll likely get W7 trained to your satisfaction in
time.

Reminds of BladeRunner and that look Derkerd gives his old boss when
told to "retire" some (more) machines or else (he'll be "little
people"): '... No choice, pal.'

;
-
'That's the spirit!' -Batty (BR)

On Mon, 04 Aug 2014 19:45:17 -0400, Flasherly
wrote:

'... No choice, pal.

Got what I needed going. Past that, not that interested in actually
running W7 (XP does what I need). Still nice, knowing I've that
option in case something spectacular in programming comes along.

Had to give up XP on the SSD, which semi-sucks for a hybrid SSD-XP
setup (programs only are linked to a SSD partition, the main OS is
platters).

3 primary SSD parts, 2 are w7, minimum apparently, and xp goes black
and reboots if I put it on a 3rd (logical portion is 3 drives on the
SSD, tho it wouldn't help if I cleared the logical portions out).

Oh, well - I can always go radical when the next samsung 128G evo pops
up for $50 or $60 (be nice to score a 256G for $70 or 80). Radical
backup speeds, maybe, and next best thing to virtuality (flipping the
power to switch near instant to another OS).