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Old August 8th 10, 10:37 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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Default Which video card with HDMI output for use with HDTV?

I have a smallish 1080p HDTV and want to hook a desktop
up to it

Any advice on which video card to buy for such use?
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Old August 9th 10, 07:15 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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Default Which video card with HDMI output for use with HDTV?

On Aug 8, 5:37 pm, wrote:
I have a smallish 1080p HDTV and want to hook a desktop
up to it

Any advice on which video card to buy for such use?


I went from the standpoint of the HDTV connection options. SVGA --
not for all games, not for all streaming video, but everything else is
fine. May want to look into matching the "native" resolution of the
display within display modes the card supports (I run mine slightly
under, so it's not exactly 1:1 -- not bad for OEM drivers, as native
mode wasn't available at the time my card was marketed).
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Old August 9th 10, 10:47 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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Default Which video card with HDMI output for use with HDTV?

wrote:
I have a smallish 1080p HDTV and want to hook a desktop
up to it

Any advice on which video card to buy for such use?


If you really wanted an answer, you'd state:

1) Make and model of TV. If there is an actual web product
page for the TV, then post a link. That saves time.

In your case, you've stated the unit has HDMI as an
input, so I suppose that would suffice. But we don't
know whether the TV has audio over HDMI or not, and
whether you'll need a connection from the sound card
or whatever, to make it complete.

So better to just state what the TV is, to remove all doubt.

With modern video cards, output resolution usually isn't an
issue. Only when an LCD gets up to the 2560x1600 level, do
you have to worry about dual link DVI or whether it supports
whatever HDMI standard supports 340MHz or the like.

2) Make and model of computer. Or, if you built the computer
yourself, the make and model of motherboard. Computers
come from different eras, with PCI, AGP, PCI Express slots.
You'll need a video card to match the expansion slots
available. Stating the make and model of computer, provides
a lead pointing to that information. If the computer is a slim
or ultra-slim, you'll need a "low profile" or "small form factor"
video card. In some cases, there really isn't any card that
meets all the requirements and is worth spending money on.
A regular sized tower style computer can probably use a
couple hundred different cards as a solution.

3) OK, you want to hook up the desktop to it. Will you be
playing 3D games, like Crysis ? Will you be playing a DVD
on the computer, and displaying a movie on the screen ?
For 3D gaming, a good frame rate requires a higher end card.
For accelerated video playback of various sorts, a recent
card is the one to get (as there are acceleration features
in some cards). Video acceleration is important in computers
that don't have a powerful enough processor to do it all on
their own.

4) Budget. I suppose if the features you want aren't that
important (you'll take whatever it has to offer), you could
always try buying a 5+ year old card, and fitting a DVI to HDMI
adapter to the end of it. That would at least get you video,
leaving your speaker setup as a separate issue perhaps.

For more info, you could start here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hdmi

HTH,
Paul
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Old August 9th 10, 05:56 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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Paul wrote:

If you really wanted an answer, you'd state:

1) Make and model of TV. If there is an actual web product
page for the TV, then post a link. That saves time.


A brand new Vizio 26" HDTV

http://www.vizio.com/flat-panel-hdtvs/m260mv.html



2) Make and model of computer.


I don't have the computer yet. I may buy a Dell
Optiplex as a "base" and add video card with HDMI
output.... or just build myself

3) OK, you want to hook up the desktop to it. Will you be
playing 3D games, like Crysis ? Will you be playing a DVD
on the computer, and displaying a movie on the screen ?


No games at all....I'm not a gamer. Just movies and off
the air broadcast


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Old August 10th 10, 03:53 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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wrote:
Paul wrote:

If you really wanted an answer, you'd state:

1) Make and model of TV. If there is an actual web product
page for the TV, then post a link. That saves time.


A brand new Vizio 26" HDTV

http://www.vizio.com/flat-panel-hdtvs/m260mv.html


2) Make and model of computer.


I don't have the computer yet. I may buy a Dell
Optiplex as a "base" and add video card with HDMI
output.... or just build myself

3) OK, you want to hook up the desktop to it. Will you be
playing 3D games, like Crysis ? Will you be playing a DVD
on the computer, and displaying a movie on the screen ?


No games at all....I'm not a gamer. Just movies and off
the air broadcast



I checked the manual, and you have *plenty* of input options.

One of the HDMI connectors, has a left and right audio next to it
(white and red, RCA connectors). You could take a DVI video card,
connect a passive DVI to HDMI dongle to it, run an HDMI cable
over to the TV set, and that would give video. You could use a
1/8" stereo to dual RCA adapter, to drive audio to the TV speakers
(if that is the way you wanted to use it). Radio Shack carries
1/8" audio to RCA connectors in the form of an adapter.

There is a 15 pin VGA connector, with a 1/8" stereo audio input
next to it.

There is component video on the bottom row. YPbPr and two
RCA audio jacks. The problem there is, the most recent video
cards don't tend to have a mini-DIN on the faceplate, for
the component video cable. The last video card I bought
(an older design which was still in production), had the
ideal I/O types of two DVI-I and a mini-DIN, so my video
card can do component. But on the downside, I can't do
GPGPU stuff with my video card, I don't have video acceleration,
so all I really got out of the deal, was some nice I/O options.
Even nicer, would have been VIVO, but they stopped doing
VIVO cards a while ago too (that adds video input as an option).

So you aren't likely to find component. But if you happened
to have an older computer, component video is of higher
quality than S-Video or Composite. Component video used to be
popular for projector systems.

To get audio over HDMI, for your TV, the options a

1) ATI cards now, usually have an audio solution right on the card.

2) Some Nvidia cards, had a passthru solution. You ran an S/PDIF
cable from the motherboard sound, to a two pin connector on
the edge of the video card. The digital audio on that cable,
would then be placed on the HDMI cable and sent across. That
also meant there was no audio driver to install, to make sound
work on the TV. You just enabled S/PDIF digital output on the
motherboard sound, and then the TV sound would work.

3) It's possible there are Nvidia cards with integrated sound
now - I haven't been keeping track.

You don't need to be in a rush at this point. Your new computer
is likely to have *some* connector you can use. Now, if the
analog audio on your new computer, happened to have "clone mode",
then you'd be all set. Some motherboard audio solutions, have
a software option (tick box), where they take a copy of Line_Out
and put it on a second connector. That allows a user to drive
two audio devices, with the same audio content. It saves
having to buy a "Y" cable for 1/8" audio, then connecting
that to a 1/8" to dual RCA adapter and so on.

So I don't think this is going to be much of a challenge for you.
It should be pretty easy to set up. The hardest part of the
adventure, will be finding the button + menu on the TV, that
allows you to select "computer input" :-) At least one poster
here recently, was helping a friend, and they couldn't seem
to find the option to enable computer input, and the thing
was "stuck on TV".

This is a video card picked at random. I didn't pick the cheapest one.
It has a PCI Express connector on it (because that is what your
new computer video slot will have). As long as your new computer isn't
something obscure (like uses a mini-ITX motherboard with a PCI
connector or something), it is likely to use PCI Express x16.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814131331

That card has one HDMI, a DVI, a VGA on it. A little of everything.
The DVI is dual link (can drive a 2560x1600 30" Apple monitor).
UVD 2 dedicated video playback accelerator (less processor loading,
for a limited set of movie standards). HDMI 1.3 version on the
HDMI connector (I don't know if you can get HDMI 1.4 on video
cards yet). Integrated HD audio controller (that means the
video card comes with an audio driver on the CD, and your
Sound control panel, ends up with an additional audio device
added to it. You select that audio device, to get sound on
the TV via the HDMI cable.).

http://www.powercolor.com/us/product...res.asp?id=213

I picked a card that expensive, because if I'd selected a
$40 video card, it would likely be as powerful and capable
as the video that comes with the computer already.

The ATI 5000 series video cards are pretty good on idle
power, so the fan shouldn't need to spool up when you're
doing email or web surfing.

You can see a listing of video cards here.

http://www.gpureview.com/videocards.php

and benchmarks for some of the cards are here. You can
see the card I picked, only gives 33% of the performance
of the card at the top of the chart, so it isn't much
of a gamer card.

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2...ny-2,2237.html

Paul
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Old August 10th 10, 05:27 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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wrote in message
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Paul wrote:

If you really wanted an answer, you'd state:

1) Make and model of TV. If there is an actual web product
page for the TV, then post a link. That saves time.


A brand new Vizio 26" HDTV

http://www.vizio.com/flat-panel-hdtvs/m260mv.html



2) Make and model of computer.


I don't have the computer yet. I may buy a Dell
Optiplex as a "base" and add video card with HDMI
output.... or just build myself

3) OK, you want to hook up the desktop to it. Will you be
playing 3D games, like Crysis ? Will you be playing a DVD
on the computer, and displaying a movie on the screen ?


No games at all....I'm not a gamer. Just movies and off
the air broadcast


plenty of graphics cards have HDMI outputs (in addition to the normal DVI
and VGA) so thats not the problem.
since you say you don't play games and want it for movies (Blu-Ray?) then I
would suggest a low profile card with a passive heatsink since Dells often
have very compact cases with little room and you want it quiet for watching
films. such a card would also have low power requirements which would go
well with a Dell.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814131339

 




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