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Old April 29th 04, 11:25 AM
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i have athlon xp. What a normally temperature working athlon xp with
standard (orginal amd) cooler? I don't now what temperature i should adjust
in alerts. thanx


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Old April 29th 04, 06:45 PM
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On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 12:25:06 +0200, "kamik" wrote:

i have athlon xp. What a normally temperature working athlon xp with
standard (orginal amd) cooler? I don't now what temperature i should adjust
in alerts. thanx


Normal temp depends on the CPU speed, default voltage, CPU process size,
ambient temp, case ventilation, etc, etc. There is no "normal" temp for
any random "Athlon XP". Even so, I'll throw out a random number that's
certainly off by a bit, 50C.

You shouldn't worry about the temp set in the "alert" too much. Primary
issue is stability, and the alert temp isn't going to affect that, rather
would cause loss of all data (from open apps) unnecessarily if the system
were to shut down prematurely, from a temp setting that's too low. On th
other hand, if the system were at such an elevated temp that it the CPU
were prone to errors, clearly you won't want it to continue running and
have that potential for errors and/or reboots (as the default for WinXP)
but to get a good idea of where that threshold is you'd have to do
extensive testing by using manual methods/modifications to raise the CPU
temp, determine that critical temp for stability.

Generally the user isn't willing to go to these lengths, and if CPU temp
is that large a concern a better cooler is selected. Otherwise all that's
needed is to choose an "alert" temp that's lower than what would cause
permanent damage to CPU, which AMD specs at roughly 90C, but again this
varies. If you want a generic answer the a nice temp setting might be
80C, but if that were a "set-in-stone" number then it would just be set at
that already. Perhaps the most important thing is to NOT set it to such a
low number that this number is reached under *ordinary* circumstances,
like the highest ambient temp the system will see combined with an
extended period of full load operation... those two factors combined could
easily raise temp by 10C or more so at least don't set the alarm to any
less than 15C over your everyday running temp, and any lower than 70C is
also pointless.
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Old April 29th 04, 11:58 PM
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kony wrote:
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 12:25:06 +0200, "kamik" wrote:

i have athlon xp. What a normally temperature working athlon xp with
standard (orginal amd) cooler? I don't now what temperature i should
adjust in alerts. thanx


Normal temp depends on the CPU speed, default voltage, CPU process
size, ambient temp, case ventilation, etc, etc. There is no "normal"
temp for any random "Athlon XP". Even so, I'll throw out a random
number that's certainly off by a bit, 50C.

You shouldn't worry about the temp set in the "alert" too much.
Primary issue is stability, and the alert temp isn't going to affect
that, rather would cause loss of all data (from open apps)
unnecessarily if the system were to shut down prematurely, from a
temp setting that's too low. On th other hand, if the system were at
such an elevated temp that it the CPU were prone to errors, clearly
you won't want it to continue running and have that potential for
errors and/or reboots (as the default for WinXP) but to get a good
idea of where that threshold is you'd have to do extensive testing by
using manual methods/modifications to raise the CPU temp, determine
that critical temp for stability.

Generally the user isn't willing to go to these lengths, and if CPU
temp is that large a concern a better cooler is selected. Otherwise
all that's needed is to choose an "alert" temp that's lower than what
would cause permanent damage to CPU, which AMD specs at roughly 90C,
but again this varies. If you want a generic answer the a nice temp
setting might be 80C, but if that were a "set-in-stone" number then
it would just be set at that already. Perhaps the most important
thing is to NOT set it to such a low number that this number is
reached under *ordinary* circumstances, like the highest ambient temp
the system will see combined with an extended period of full load
operation... those two factors combined could easily raise temp by
10C or more so at least don't set the alarm to any less than 15C over
your everyday running temp, and any lower than 70C is also pointless.


Excellent advice. I set my Athlon systems to between 75°C and 85°C,
depending on the model. They all have different max temps, I set the
shut-down temp 5°C lower (if it's being read from the CPU diode, as it
should be). However I also have MBM5 installed with it constantly showing me
the core temp in the systray, updated every second. It's handy as, with a
clean HSF, my CPU core runs fairly consistantly at 25°C above room temp
(cheap thermometer on the wall). I have a reasonable air-flow through my
case with no dust filters and if the core temp goes much above 25°C above
room temp I know it's time to take the side off the case, carefully (so as
not to disturb the thermal interface) unscrew the CPU fan and clean the fan
and fins out with a long-bristle artist's brush I keep for the purpose. Then
again, I'm an overclocker (Athlon XP1800+ @ 2.1Ghz with standard AMD HSF as
my main machine). However, I believe that is good practice for anyone who's
hardware-savvy and wants their machine to run at it's best. I've picked up
quite a few PCs from the local refuse transfer station that were dumped
(presumably because they were locking up/rebooting) that had CPU heatsink
fins completely (and I mean *completely*) full of dust, one to the extent
that the fan wouldn't even turn.
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