9600SE vs 9500PRO

SOunds like a bad driver install or something, the 9200pro is nothing
special either, the 8500/9100 will kick it's ass.

Mike

"Rob Stow" wrote in message
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I know someone who replaced a 9200 Pro with a 9600 SE
without doing his research first. He took a big hit
on every benchmark he tried.

On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 00:12:42 GMT, "DaveW" wrote:

Ah, but the 9500 is Not DX9 capable...

WILL YOU SHUT THE **** UP!

YOUR A ****ING RETARD IN EVERY ****ING POST YOU ARE BARELY ABLE TO
MAKE.

YOU WASTE OF LIFE.

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 17:17:28 -0800, "Sept1967"
sept1967@highstream.(Erase)net wrote:

Ah but the 9500Pro *IS* DX9...and it kicks the crap out of a 9600se
(Same GPU as the Radeon 9700, but 128bit memory access).


DaveW is the group moron, pretty much every posts he makes is full of
****, incorrect or the usual plain stupidity as you've just witness.


--
Remember when real men used Real computers!?
When 512K of video RAM was a lot!

Death to Palladium & WPA!!

On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 22:47:12 GMT, "Mike P"
wrote:

SOunds like a bad driver install or something, the 9200pro is nothing
special either, the 8500/9100 will kick it's ass.


9000/9200Pros are faster than a 9600se.


--
Remember when real men used Real computers!?
When 512K of video RAM was a lot!

Death to Palladium & WPA!!

yafriend wrote:

On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 00:12:42 GMT, "DaveW" wrote:

Ah, but the 9500 is Not DX9 capable...

WILL YOU SHUT THE **** UP!

YOUR A ****ING RETARD IN EVERY ****ING POST YOU ARE BARELY ABLE TO
MAKE.

YOU WASTE OF LIFE.

Ordinarily I don't particularly like seeing language such as you used, but
in the extant case, well said.

I can't figure out if he's a troll or just stupid.

--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

Do you have any links indicating this? I'm not in the market for one but
I'm kind of interested in following this naming mess... I was looking at
those cards a while back and I know the 9000/pro is a p.o.s. as is the 9200,
haven't seen much on the 9200pro but I doubt it's much better. I also know
the 9600se has a cut down bus and is crap as well. I was using the 8500 for
comparision, a card I had a couple years back. The bottom line is that
anything below the 8500 is too slow for gaming now imho.

9600se & 9200 benches:
http://www.digital-daily.com/video/ati-vga-roundup2003/

http://firingsquad.com/hardware/call..._ati/page4.asp

http://oc3dmark.octeams.com/radeonguide.html

card specs:
http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/20031229/index.html

I also remember seeing a link where the 9200 beat the 9600se in a bench (I
can't remember which one) but I didn't save the link. But again, anything
sub 8500 is pretty much in the same (not, or barely, sufficient) class.

Cheers,
Mike


"Darthy" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 22:47:12 GMT, "Mike P"
wrote:

SOunds like a bad driver install or something, the 9200pro is nothing
special either, the 8500/9100 will kick it's ass.


9000/9200Pros are faster than a 9600se.


--
Remember when real men used Real computers!?
When 512K of video RAM was a lot!

Death to Palladium & WPA!!

Remember when real men used Real computers!?
When 512K of video RAM was a lot!

the first machine I worked on had 8k of RAM.

The company I worked for sold the machine & software (payroll, stock
control etc) for 15,000 pounds (back when you could actually buy something
for a pound)

Bill


"Darthy" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 22:47:12 GMT, "Mike P"
wrote:

SOunds like a bad driver install or something, the 9200pro is nothing
special either, the 8500/9100 will kick it's ass.


9000/9200Pros are faster than a 9600se.


--
Remember when real men used Real computers!?
When 512K of video RAM was a lot!

Death to Palladium & WPA!!

I guess so (from the posts yelling at him).
Every village needs it's Idiot...


"Darthy" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 17:17:28 -0800, "Sept1967"
sept1967@highstream.(Erase)net wrote:

Ah but the 9500Pro *IS* DX9...and it kicks the crap out of a 9600se
(Same GPU as the Radeon 9700, but 128bit memory access).


DaveW is the group moron, pretty much every posts he makes is full of
****, incorrect or the usual plain stupidity as you've just witness.


--
Remember when real men used Real computers!?
When 512K of video RAM was a lot!

Death to Palladium & WPA!!

jim fallon wrote:

Just a note to tell anyone NOT to buy a Radeon 9600SE they are crap, get a
9500PRO if you can find one!!!

I have just replaced the 9600SE with a 9500PRO my first 3Dmark03 score was
2855 an increase of 61%!!!!
(see below for my system details)
By the way does anyone know how to check whether a card is a 9500 or a
9500PRO? Windows, 3Dmark reckons its a 9500 not a 9500PRO?
Thanks

Jim

My previous post regarding performance:

Graphics card: powercolor Radeon 9600SE, 128MB DDR
Motherboard: asus a7N8x deluxe
cpu: athlon xp 2000+
memory: single channel 512MB PC3200 at 166MHZ
hard disks: 60mb + 80MB both 7200rpm
Windoze XP Pro SP1

This is a new board, I replaced an Asus A7133 with 256MB PC133 memory.

However with the new setup my 3DMark03 score only increased from 1670 to
1707 an increase of 2%.
Have I set it up incorrectly?
I'm considering replacing the 9600SE with an ATI Radeon 9500PRO 128MB, from
Tom's benmarking this has far higher scores.

Any ideas?

I have just replaced the 9600SE with a 9500PRO my first 3Dmark03 score was
2855 an increase of 61%!!!!

SE = suckers edition

I thought it stood for slow edition.

"Gordon Scott" wrote in message
...
jim fallon wrote:

Just a note to tell anyone NOT to buy a Radeon 9600SE they are crap, get
a
9500PRO if you can find one!!!

I have just replaced the 9600SE with a 9500PRO my first 3Dmark03 score
was
2855 an increase of 61%!!!!
(see below for my system details)
By the way does anyone know how to check whether a card is a 9500 or a
9500PRO? Windows, 3Dmark reckons its a 9500 not a 9500PRO?
Thanks

Jim

My previous post regarding performance:

Graphics card: powercolor Radeon 9600SE, 128MB DDR
Motherboard: asus a7N8x deluxe
cpu: athlon xp 2000+
memory: single channel 512MB PC3200 at 166MHZ
hard disks: 60mb + 80MB both 7200rpm
Windoze XP Pro SP1

This is a new board, I replaced an Asus A7133 with 256MB PC133 memory.

However with the new setup my 3DMark03 score only increased from 1670 to
1707 an increase of 2%.
Have I set it up incorrectly?
I'm considering replacing the 9600SE with an ATI Radeon 9500PRO 128MB,
from
Tom's benmarking this has far higher scores.

Any ideas?

I have just replaced the 9600SE with a 9500PRO my first 3Dmark03 score
was
2855 an increase of 61%!!!!

SE = suckers edition