9600SE vs 9500PRO

Just a note to tell anyone NOT to buy a Radeon 9600SE they are crap, get a
9500PRO if you can find one!!!

I have just replaced the 9600SE with a 9500PRO my first 3Dmark03 score was
2855 an increase of 61%!!!!
(see below for my system details)
By the way does anyone know how to check whether a card is a 9500 or a
9500PRO? Windows, 3Dmark reckons its a 9500 not a 9500PRO?
Thanks

Jim

My previous post regarding performance:

Graphics card: powercolor Radeon 9600SE, 128MB DDR
Motherboard: asus a7N8x deluxe
cpu: athlon xp 2000+
memory: single channel 512MB PC3200 at 166MHZ
hard disks: 60mb + 80MB both 7200rpm
Windoze XP Pro SP1

This is a new board, I replaced an Asus A7133 with 256MB PC133 memory.

However with the new setup my 3DMark03 score only increased from 1670 to
1707 an increase of 2%.
Have I set it up incorrectly?
I'm considering replacing the 9600SE with an ATI Radeon 9500PRO 128MB, from
Tom's benmarking this has far higher scores.

Any ideas?

I have just replaced the 9600SE with a 9500PRO my first 3Dmark03 score was
2855 an increase of 61%!!!!

Ah, but the 9500 is Not DX9 capable...

--
DaveW



"jim fallon" wrote in message
...
Just a note to tell anyone NOT to buy a Radeon 9600SE they are crap, get a
9500PRO if you can find one!!!

I have just replaced the 9600SE with a 9500PRO my first 3Dmark03 score was
2855 an increase of 61%!!!!
(see below for my system details)
By the way does anyone know how to check whether a card is a 9500 or a
9500PRO? Windows, 3Dmark reckons its a 9500 not a 9500PRO?
Thanks

Jim

My previous post regarding performance:

Graphics card: powercolor Radeon 9600SE, 128MB DDR
Motherboard: asus a7N8x deluxe
cpu: athlon xp 2000+
memory: single channel 512MB PC3200 at 166MHZ
hard disks: 60mb + 80MB both 7200rpm
Windoze XP Pro SP1

This is a new board, I replaced an Asus A7133 with 256MB PC133 memory.

However with the new setup my 3DMark03 score only increased from 1670 to
1707 an increase of 2%.
Have I set it up incorrectly?
I'm considering replacing the 9600SE with an ATI Radeon 9500PRO 128MB,
from
Tom's benmarking this has far higher scores.

Any ideas?

I have just replaced the 9600SE with a 9500PRO my first 3Dmark03 score was
2855 an increase of 61%!!!!

um .........yah it is.............

"DaveW" wrote in message
news:_Xv%b.65436$Xp.310378@attbi_s54...
Ah, but the 9500 is Not DX9 capable...

--
DaveW



"jim fallon" wrote in message
...
Just a note to tell anyone NOT to buy a Radeon 9600SE they are crap, get
a
9500PRO if you can find one!!!

I have just replaced the 9600SE with a 9500PRO my first 3Dmark03 score
was
2855 an increase of 61%!!!!
(see below for my system details)
By the way does anyone know how to check whether a card is a 9500 or a
9500PRO? Windows, 3Dmark reckons its a 9500 not a 9500PRO?
Thanks

Jim

My previous post regarding performance:

Graphics card: powercolor Radeon 9600SE, 128MB DDR
Motherboard: asus a7N8x deluxe
cpu: athlon xp 2000+
memory: single channel 512MB PC3200 at 166MHZ
hard disks: 60mb + 80MB both 7200rpm
Windoze XP Pro SP1

This is a new board, I replaced an Asus A7133 with 256MB PC133 memory.

However with the new setup my 3DMark03 score only increased from 1670 to
1707 an increase of 2%.
Have I set it up incorrectly?
I'm considering replacing the 9600SE with an ATI Radeon 9500PRO 128MB,
from
Tom's benmarking this has far higher scores.

Any ideas?

I have just replaced the 9600SE with a 9500PRO my first 3Dmark03 score
was
2855 an increase of 61%!!!!

Ah but the 9500Pro *IS* DX9...and it kicks the crap out of a 9600se
(Same GPU as the Radeon 9700, but 128bit memory access).

Try reading about something before you post BS about it...

http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=Mzk2


"DaveW" wrote in message
news:_Xv%b.65436$Xp.310378@attbi_s54...
Ah, but the 9500 is Not DX9 capable...

--
DaveW



"jim fallon" wrote in message
...
Just a note to tell anyone NOT to buy a Radeon 9600SE they are crap, get
a
9500PRO if you can find one!!!

I have just replaced the 9600SE with a 9500PRO my first 3Dmark03 score
was
2855 an increase of 61%!!!!
(see below for my system details)
By the way does anyone know how to check whether a card is a 9500 or a
9500PRO? Windows, 3Dmark reckons its a 9500 not a 9500PRO?
Thanks

Jim

My previous post regarding performance:

Graphics card: powercolor Radeon 9600SE, 128MB DDR
Motherboard: asus a7N8x deluxe
cpu: athlon xp 2000+
memory: single channel 512MB PC3200 at 166MHZ
hard disks: 60mb + 80MB both 7200rpm
Windoze XP Pro SP1

This is a new board, I replaced an Asus A7133 with 256MB PC133 memory.

However with the new setup my 3DMark03 score only increased from 1670 to
1707 an increase of 2%.
Have I set it up incorrectly?
I'm considering replacing the 9600SE with an ATI Radeon 9500PRO 128MB,
from
Tom's benmarking this has far higher scores.

Any ideas?

I have just replaced the 9600SE with a 9500PRO my first 3Dmark03 score
was
2855 an increase of 61%!!!!

Or, if you want to stay with a 9600, get a 9600XT. This one has almost
identical performance to the 9500pro (sometimes slightly faster,
sometimes slightly slower) and needs a lot less power. The 9500pro is a
fine card, but might be hard to get nowadays.
The 9600SE has only *1/3* the memory bandwidth (slow 64bit memory) of
the 9600pro/xt/9500pro (slow 64bit memory) which really hurts its
performance.
(if you need a decent but cheap, possibly passive-cooled DX9 card, the
9600 (without suffix) is also an option.)

Roland


Sept1967 wrote:
Ah but the 9500Pro *IS* DX9...and it kicks the crap out of a 9600se
(Same GPU as the Radeon 9700, but 128bit memory access).

Try reading about something before you post BS about it...

http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=Mzk2


"DaveW" wrote in message
news:_Xv%b.65436$Xp.310378@attbi_s54...

Ah, but the 9500 is Not DX9 capable...

--
DaveW



"jim fallon" wrote in message
...

Just a note to tell anyone NOT to buy a Radeon 9600SE they are crap, get

a

9500PRO if you can find one!!!

I have just replaced the 9600SE with a 9500PRO my first 3Dmark03 score

was

2855 an increase of 61%!!!!
(see below for my system details)
By the way does anyone know how to check whether a card is a 9500 or a
9500PRO? Windows, 3Dmark reckons its a 9500 not a 9500PRO?
Thanks

Jim

My previous post regarding performance:

Graphics card: powercolor Radeon 9600SE, 128MB DDR
Motherboard: asus a7N8x deluxe
cpu: athlon xp 2000+
memory: single channel 512MB PC3200 at 166MHZ
hard disks: 60mb + 80MB both 7200rpm
Windoze XP Pro SP1

This is a new board, I replaced an Asus A7133 with 256MB PC133 memory.

However with the new setup my 3DMark03 score only increased from 1670 to
1707 an increase of 2%.
Have I set it up incorrectly?
I'm considering replacing the 9600SE with an ATI Radeon 9500PRO 128MB,

from

Tom's benmarking this has far higher scores.

Any ideas?

I have just replaced the 9600SE with a 9500PRO my first 3Dmark03 score

was

2855 an increase of 61%!!!!

For a few bucks more the powercolor 9600 pro(400Mghz)
with 128meg(600mghz) looks awful good!

"Roland Scheidegger" wrote in message
...
Or, if you want to stay with a 9600, get a 9600XT. This one has almost
identical performance to the 9500pro (sometimes slightly faster,
sometimes slightly slower) and needs a lot less power. The 9500pro is a
fine card, but might be hard to get nowadays.
The 9600SE has only *1/3* the memory bandwidth (slow 64bit memory) of
the 9600pro/xt/9500pro (slow 64bit memory) which really hurts its
performance.
(if you need a decent but cheap, possibly passive-cooled DX9 card, the
9600 (without suffix) is also an option.)

Roland


Sept1967 wrote:
Ah but the 9500Pro *IS* DX9...and it kicks the crap out of a 9600se
(Same GPU as the Radeon 9700, but 128bit memory access).

Try reading about something before you post BS about it...

http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=Mzk2


"DaveW" wrote in message
news:_Xv%b.65436$Xp.310378@attbi_s54...

Ah, but the 9500 is Not DX9 capable...

--
DaveW



"jim fallon" wrote in message
...

Just a note to tell anyone NOT to buy a Radeon 9600SE they are crap,
get

a

9500PRO if you can find one!!!

I have just replaced the 9600SE with a 9500PRO my first 3Dmark03 score

was

2855 an increase of 61%!!!!
(see below for my system details)
By the way does anyone know how to check whether a card is a 9500 or a
9500PRO? Windows, 3Dmark reckons its a 9500 not a 9500PRO?
Thanks

Jim

My previous post regarding performance:

Graphics card: powercolor Radeon 9600SE, 128MB DDR
Motherboard: asus a7N8x deluxe
cpu: athlon xp 2000+
memory: single channel 512MB PC3200 at 166MHZ
hard disks: 60mb + 80MB both 7200rpm
Windoze XP Pro SP1

This is a new board, I replaced an Asus A7133 with 256MB PC133 memory.

However with the new setup my 3DMark03 score only increased from 1670
to
1707 an increase of 2%.
Have I set it up incorrectly?
I'm considering replacing the 9600SE with an ATI Radeon 9500PRO 128MB,

from

Tom's benmarking this has far higher scores.

Any ideas?

I have just replaced the 9600SE with a 9500PRO my first 3Dmark03 score

was

2855 an increase of 61%!!!!

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 17:17:28 -0800, "Sept1967"
sept1967@highstream.(Erase)net wrote:

Ah but the 9500Pro *IS* DX9...and it kicks the crap out of a 9600se
(Same GPU as the Radeon 9700, but 128bit memory access).


DaveW is the group moron, pretty much every posts he makes is full of
****, incorrect or the usual plain stupidity as you've just witness.


--
Remember when real men used Real computers!?
When 512K of video RAM was a lot!

Death to Palladium & WPA!!

I guess so (from the posts yelling at him).
Every village needs it's Idiot...


"Darthy" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 17:17:28 -0800, "Sept1967"
sept1967@highstream.(Erase)net wrote:

Ah but the 9500Pro *IS* DX9...and it kicks the crap out of a 9600se
(Same GPU as the Radeon 9700, but 128bit memory access).


DaveW is the group moron, pretty much every posts he makes is full of
****, incorrect or the usual plain stupidity as you've just witness.


--
Remember when real men used Real computers!?
When 512K of video RAM was a lot!

Death to Palladium & WPA!!

DaveW wrote:

Ah, but the 9500 is Not DX9 capable...

Prove it.

--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 00:12:42 GMT, "DaveW" wrote:

Ah, but the 9500 is Not DX9 capable...

WILL YOU SHUT THE **** UP!

YOUR A ****ING RETARD IN EVERY ****ING POST YOU ARE BARELY ABLE TO
MAKE.

YOU WASTE OF LIFE.