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Old August 21st 03, 04:00 PM
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will 1st edition do? if so i can help

ant

On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Ian casually suggested:

:I need a full Windows 98 CD (not upgrade) with license. The regular
:vendors don't supply it any more.
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Old August 21st 03, 04:17 PM
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will 1st edition do? if so i can help

ant

On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Ian casually suggested:

:I need a full Windows 98 CD (not upgrade) with license. The regular
:vendors don't supply it any more.


I could give you a copy of my OEM Windows 98 SE disk if you want.

Jackie


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Old August 22nd 03, 08:12 AM
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Johannes H Andersen wrote in news:3F4576A1.9EA1C912
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"Form@C" wrote:

"Tim" wrote in :

X-No-Archive: Yes

Well if the OP. has lost or damaged his CD, then I might be able to
help. I have 1st edition selling at £15 including delivery.


Under the M$ terms you can't sell it on to a third person can you?

Isn't
the licence for one single computer only, and not transferrable to any
other machine? AFAIK this applies to OEM versions at least. The only
official way to replace a damaged disk appears to be via M$, or one of
their dealers at least. You would almost certainly have to produce

your
licence.


Yes, it applies to OEM versions, but it is a leap of faith to think
that it also applies to retail versions.


Ah... but on whose part? The licence enforcer or the licencee? The XP
licence is more or less a "permission to use", the buyer does not own the
software, he/she is just given permission to use it on a single computer.
IOW you can't actually buy XP, only the CD that it comes on! M$ are
serious about this.

What a load of carp. Linux here I come.... :-)


Nothing wrong with Linux, but it can't replace Windows if you have
software applications that require Windows. Don't mention emulation,
it will run on crutches.


Nope - Wine, maybe, but vmware is a different kettle of fish. Most
proggies don't seem to mind running under it and, at full screen, you
can't tell that you are using a linux box. You are right on one point
though, not everything will run.

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Old August 22nd 03, 08:28 AM
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Johannes H Andersen wrote:
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Nothing wrong with Linux, but it can't replace Windows if you have
software applications that require Windows. Don't mention emulation,
it will run on crutches.


I seem to recall wine on Linux running some applications *faster* than
native Win32. Even if it's not faster for a particular app there's not
much difference in speed with most Windows "emulators" on x86 *nix
machines. The binaries are still native x86 and run as such, you don't
have to emulate a different architecture. wine just provides the Win32
API. Granted, X isn't as fast for drawing windows as MS Windows
(thanks to X's more flexible architecture) but you don't notice that
at all unless you've a dog-slow machine.

Not everything works on Linux Windows emulators but if it works on
Win9x and doesn't do funky stuff with hardware or use custom VxDs
there's every chance it'll work perfectly well under wine. Plus you
get all the advantages of a real operating system - you'll never get
an app that would have crashed Win9x or hogged the processor doing
that on your Linux box.


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Old August 22nd 03, 08:36 AM
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"Form@C" wrote:

Johannes H Andersen wrote in news:3F4576A1.9EA1C912
@sizefitter.com:

"Form@C" wrote:

"Tim" wrote in :

X-No-Archive: Yes

Well if the OP. has lost or damaged his CD, then I might be able to
help. I have 1st edition selling at £15 including delivery.


Under the M$ terms you can't sell it on to a third person can you?

Isn't
the licence for one single computer only, and not transferrable to any
other machine? AFAIK this applies to OEM versions at least. The only
official way to replace a damaged disk appears to be via M$, or one of
their dealers at least. You would almost certainly have to produce

your
licence.


Yes, it applies to OEM versions, but it is a leap of faith to think
that it also applies to retail versions.


Ah... but on whose part? The licence enforcer or the licencee? The XP
licence is more or less a "permission to use", the buyer does not own the
software, he/she is just given permission to use it on a single computer.
IOW you can't actually buy XP, only the CD that it comes on! M$ are
serious about this.


From an OEM license:

"Software Transfer. You may permanently transfer all of your rights under
this EULA only as part of a sale or transfer of the COMPUTER, provided
you retain no copies, you transfer all of the SOFTWARE PRODUCTS (including
all parts......), and the recipient agrees to the terms of this EULA."

The capitals are as in the text. The point is that MS consider an OEM
computer+Windows as a single integrated product.

If you have a retail Windows version, then that is bought independently
of the computer, so it may be possible to transfer that 'product' alone.

What a load of carp. Linux here I come.... :-)


Nothing wrong with Linux, but it can't replace Windows if you have
software applications that require Windows. Don't mention emulation,
it will run on crutches.


Nope - Wine, maybe, but vmware is a different kettle of fish. Most
proggies don't seem to mind running under it and, at full screen, you
can't tell that you are using a linux box. You are right on one point
though, not everything will run.


Thanks for that. I still have some reservations for emulators, at least
it is an extra level of complexity to debug if something falls over. If
you need a full Windows disc anyway, then what is the advantage compared
to running Windows in a partition?

Johannes
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Old August 22nd 03, 09:15 AM
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Ian wrote:
So my request still stands: I need a full retail Windows 98 CD with
license. Surely one of the UK retailers must have a shrink-wrapped box
gathering dust in their warehouse somewhere?


They go on eBay for about 40 quid.

If you don't want to do that buy a copy of Micromart. There are
normally several companies who deal in this sort of thing. IIRC it'll
set you back about 80 quid.

Andy
 




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