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Just a query!
I have a problem with two graphics cards that I purchased before Xmas and
don't work on my Striker Extreme. I have tried them both on a NF4 SLi 939 based system I resurrected and still they don't work but the question is it a PCI-E 2.0 problem? Do I buy a new Intel motherboard and strip and rebuild my current system or do I try another completely different chipset based on a modern AM2 system (new CPU, motherboard and cooler)? I am thinking that the complete change may eliminate any other queries. Ideas anyone? Robin |
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Just a query!
'Dumbo' wrote:
I have a problem with two graphics cards that I purchased before Xmas and don't work on my Striker Extreme. I have tried them both on a NF4 SLi 939 based system I resurrected and still they don't work but the question is it a PCI-E 2.0 problem? Do I buy a new Intel motherboard and strip and rebuild my current system or do I try another completely different chipset based on a modern AM2 system (new CPU, motherboard and cooler)? I am thinking that the complete change may eliminate any other queries. Ideas anyone? _____ What cards? Were the cards new? Had they ever worked for you? No information in, no information out. You are flailing. PCI-e 2.0 cards are backward compatible with PCI-e 1.0. AM2? What is this AM2 system? From the lack of information you have been providing, the troubles you have been reporting, and the ideas you have about what may be wrong, I suggest... getting on site help from a more experienced computer system builder. It ain't your chipset, but the problem could be, for all we know, most anything else... most likely the component in front of the keyboard. So check that out also. Perhaps read a good book or two, or at least a few good websites. Phil Weldon "Dumbo" wrote in message ... I have a problem with two graphics cards that I purchased before Xmas and don't work on my Striker Extreme. I have tried them both on a NF4 SLi 939 based system I resurrected and still they don't work but the question is it a PCI-E 2.0 problem? Do I buy a new Intel motherboard and strip and rebuild my current system or do I try another completely different chipset based on a modern AM2 system (new CPU, motherboard and cooler)? I am thinking that the complete change may eliminate any other queries. Ideas anyone? Robin |
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Just a query!
Phil Weldon kirjoitti:
'Dumbo' wrote: I have a problem with two graphics cards that I purchased before Xmas and don't work on my Striker Extreme. I have tried them both on a NF4 SLi 939 based system I resurrected and still they don't work but the question is it a PCI-E 2.0 problem? Do I buy a new Intel motherboard and strip and rebuild my current system or do I try another completely different chipset based on a modern AM2 system (new CPU, motherboard and cooler)? I am thinking that the complete change may eliminate any other queries. Ideas anyone? _____ What cards? Were the cards new? Had they ever worked for you? No information in, no information out. You are flailing. PCI-e 2.0 cards are backward compatible with PCI-e 1.0. That is basically true, but there are some known glitches. For example, some those Asrock boards with both AGP and PCI-E (1.something) slots, will not cooperate with some PCI-E 2.0 cards (GF, IIRC). I have also heard that some Via chipsets on PCI-E 1.x boards don't like some (GeForce again) 2.0 cards, but these known two anomalies don't apply here. Probably. He doesn't tell too much about his system. AM2? What is this AM2 system? From the lack of information you have been providing, the troubles you have been reporting, and the ideas you have about what may be wrong, I suggest... getting on site help from a more experienced computer system builder. It ain't your chipset, but the problem could be, for all we know, most anything else... most likely the component in front of the keyboard. So check that out also. Perhaps read a good book or two, or at least a few good websites. Phil Weldon "Dumbo" wrote in message ... I have a problem with two graphics cards that I purchased before Xmas and don't work on my Striker Extreme. I have tried them both on a NF4 SLi 939 based system I resurrected and still they don't work but the question is it a PCI-E 2.0 problem? Do I buy a new Intel motherboard and strip and rebuild my current system or do I try another completely different chipset based on a modern AM2 system (new CPU, motherboard and cooler)? I am thinking that the complete change may eliminate any other queries. Ideas anyone? Robin |
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Just a query!
Look I know I'm flailing but I have assurances that my GTX was a fully
working card and the 4870 Force3d was a problem card (I assumed it was heat issue and a new cooler (air or water would fix it)). Neither will post on a Striker Extreme motherboard I have. There are a lot of postings out there saying that the PCI-e 2.0 cards refuse to function with these cards but I have persevered. Even ASUS support forums have this type of statement posted there. I cannot get even one friend who has a PSU with the correct connectors or correct wattage of PSU to run it. BFG tech don't seem to be too helpful. My point is this. If I purchase an AM2 based motherboard, CPU and cooler and try my psu (Hiper-4m880w) would that negate the issue of some incompatibility with 680/780 chipsets. I haven't got an AM2 setup but one based on another chipset should take another if out of the equation. Robin |
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Just a query!
Dumbo wrote:
Look I know I'm flailing but I have assurances that my GTX was a fully working card and the 4870 Force3d was a problem card (I assumed it was heat issue and a new cooler (air or water would fix it)). Neither will post on a Striker Extreme motherboard I have. There are a lot of postings out there saying that the PCI-e 2.0 cards refuse to function with these cards but I have persevered. Even ASUS support forums have this type of statement posted there. I cannot get even one friend who has a PSU with the correct connectors or correct wattage of PSU to run it. BFG tech don't seem to be too helpful. My point is this. If I purchase an AM2 based motherboard, CPU and cooler and try my psu (Hiper-4m880w) would that negate the issue of some incompatibility with 680/780 chipsets. I haven't got an AM2 setup but one based on another chipset should take another if out of the equation. Robin It's an interesting problem. http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Language=en-us What I find really funny, is one guy reporting an 8800 GT works. 8800 GT was a PCI Express 2.0 card, that had problems with a number of different PCI Express 1.0 motherboards. They fixed that, by issuing new video card BIOS files, so the video card had to be flashed to fix it. What that was supposed to do, was try PCI Express 1.0 mode first (or only that mode), and that was supposed to fix it. So someone on the Asus forum got an 8800 GT to work with Striker Extreme. I understand the PCI Express 2.0 standard, actually says to try PCI Express 1.0 mode first, so it is supposed to go in that order anyway. It looks like people have been playing with various settings, in an attempt to figure it out. For example, they tried playing with PCI Express clock. Someone also mentioned some (unnamed) forum trying to modify the Northbridge voltage. If I had that motherboard and problem, I might try plugging in an old PCI video card, just to get the system working, and then try the PCI Express video card in various slots. On some motherboards, the BIOS is sensitive to which slot is tried by the user. The slot closest to the processor is the one I'd try first. Sometimes, the other ones cannot be used if only one video card is present, and I'm not sure why the BIOS would care. I wonder if disabling Link Boost would help ? That looks pretty dangerous... http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=2869&p=5 It would definitely be more fun to debug this, with a cheap PCI video card just to drive the monitor, while you try settings in the BIOS. Paul |
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Just a query!
"Dumbo" wrote in message ... Look I know I'm flailing but I have assurances that my GTX was a fully working card and the 4870 Force3d was a problem card (I assumed it was heat issue and a new cooler (air or water would fix it)). Neither will post on a Striker Extreme motherboard I have. There are a lot of postings out there saying that the PCI-e 2.0 cards refuse to function with these cards but I have persevered. Even ASUS support forums have this type of statement posted there. I cannot get even one friend who has a PSU with the correct connectors or correct wattage of PSU to run it. BFG tech don't seem to be too helpful. My point is this. If I purchase an AM2 based motherboard, CPU and cooler and try my psu (Hiper-4m880w) would that negate the issue of some incompatibility with 680/780 chipsets. I haven't got an AM2 setup but one based on another chipset should take another if out of the equation. Robin Assurances don't mean they work. Both of the cards in question may be bad if you haven't seen them working. I have a Striker Extreme based system that has had a couple of 8800GTX cards in SLI and in single card mode and they worked perfectly. The cards are now in my i7 system and working perfectly with an Asus P6T. I have had several 8800 based cards in the Striker Extreme and have built 3 other systems around Asus 680i boards for family without any issues at all, and using 8800 based cards in all of them. All the systems are 1-2 years old and running great. I haven't had any pcie 1-2 issues and it is so rare (so few folks on the boards claim to have them) that I would look somewhere else as the problem. PSUs are so important with today's systems and there are a lot more problems associated with that than with any other problem I have seen. If you have never seen either card work in a system, and have not tried a known good card in your system (one you have seen work) or have not tried your cards in another system it is very difficult for anyone to do anything other than guess what your problem may be. Ed |
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