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Have a ecs geforce 7050m-m v2 motherboard. Trying to install a 8800 &
am unable. What are the steps to follow or you followed? TIA |
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"ted" wrote in message ... Have a ecs geforce 7050m-m v2 motherboard. Trying to install a 8800 & am unable. What are the steps to follow or you followed? TIA What exactly do you mean by "am unable".....you can't physically fit the card in the m/b & case assembly? You can't hookup the PCIe 4 prong power outlet? You can do all this and it won't boot? How do you know it's the mainboard and not the p/s or the 8800GTS? |
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ted wrote:
Have a ecs geforce 7050m-m v2 motherboard. Trying to install a 8800 & am unable. What are the steps to follow or you followed? TIA Where exactly are you getting stuck? Looking up your board, it appears you have an Micro ATX integrated board with a single PCI-E 16x slot. So barring any case obstructions, are you able to fit it in the slot? You have to slide over that white locking tab first you know. Be sure it's fully seated, you cannot have it touching hard dries and what not and being shoved up out of the slot. Next lock the tab back, screw in the card, and connect one PCI-E 6-pin power lead from your PSU to the connector on the card. This is CRITICAL for an 8800 GTS (320/640/512MB). Now power up, install your drivers and get going! You can safely use NVidia's latest Geforce driver instead of your manufacturers'. They are in fact, mostly the same. If you experience problems with lockups and blue screens, it's likely you have an inadequate PSU (common with smaller systems like you might have). A GTS requires around 26A (amps) on the 12V rail (+12v1, +12v2, etc) total for the system. This should be marked clearly on a label on the side of your PSU unit. |
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'deimos' wrote, in part:
A GTS requires around 26A (amps) on the 12V rail (+12v1, +12v2, etc) total for the system. This should be marked clearly on a label on the side of your PSU unit. _____ Where did you get the idea that a 8800 GTS required 26 A X 12 V = 312 Watts? A 350 Watt supply is very likely to be all that is needed for his ENTIRE system. Phil Weldon "deimos" deimos@localhost wrote in message ... ted wrote: Have a ecs geforce 7050m-m v2 motherboard. Trying to install a 8800 & am unable. What are the steps to follow or you followed? TIA Where exactly are you getting stuck? Looking up your board, it appears you have an Micro ATX integrated board with a single PCI-E 16x slot. So barring any case obstructions, are you able to fit it in the slot? You have to slide over that white locking tab first you know. Be sure it's fully seated, you cannot have it touching hard dries and what not and being shoved up out of the slot. Next lock the tab back, screw in the card, and connect one PCI-E 6-pin power lead from your PSU to the connector on the card. This is CRITICAL for an 8800 GTS (320/640/512MB). Now power up, install your drivers and get going! You can safely use NVidia's latest Geforce driver instead of your manufacturers'. They are in fact, mostly the same. If you experience problems with lockups and blue screens, it's likely you have an inadequate PSU (common with smaller systems like you might have). A GTS requires around 26A (amps) on the 12V rail (+12v1, +12v2, etc) total for the system. This should be marked clearly on a label on the side of your PSU unit. |
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Phil Weldon wrote:
'deimos' wrote, in part: A GTS requires around 26A (amps) on the 12V rail (+12v1, +12v2, etc) total for the system. This should be marked clearly on a label on the side of your PSU unit. _____ Where did you get the idea that a 8800 GTS required 26 A X 12 V = 312 Watts? A 350 Watt supply is very likely to be all that is needed for his ENTIRE system. Phil Weldon "deimos" deimos@localhost wrote in message ... ted wrote: Have a ecs geforce 7050m-m v2 motherboard. Trying to install a 8800 & am unable. What are the steps to follow or you followed? TIA Where exactly are you getting stuck? Looking up your board, it appears you have an Micro ATX integrated board with a single PCI-E 16x slot. So barring any case obstructions, are you able to fit it in the slot? You have to slide over that white locking tab first you know. Be sure it's fully seated, you cannot have it touching hard dries and what not and being shoved up out of the slot. Next lock the tab back, screw in the card, and connect one PCI-E 6-pin power lead from your PSU to the connector on the card. This is CRITICAL for an 8800 GTS (320/640/512MB). Now power up, install your drivers and get going! You can safely use NVidia's latest Geforce driver instead of your manufacturers'. They are in fact, mostly the same. If you experience problems with lockups and blue screens, it's likely you have an inadequate PSU (common with smaller systems like you might have). A GTS requires around 26A (amps) on the 12V rail (+12v1, +12v2, etc) total for the system. This should be marked clearly on a label on the side of your PSU unit. Because Watts is completely useless as a factor for determining system load. NVidia's guideline for the 8800 series is 26A on the 12V rail. This is a combination of all 12v rails combined and is intended to account for the average system utilization of everything including your CPU/mobo/RAM, drives, other cards, and fans. The watts rating on your PSU label is the sum of all voltages and rails. Since you're not using the +5v or 3.3v (if it exists) for a video card, the important part is the 12v amps. 350w is likely all you need, but if a PSU is only 70% or lower efficient, then it cannot deliver that peak voltage for long, and for the really cheap ones, when they are at 80% load or greater, they burst into flame. PSU's LIKE to be at 25-50% load most of the time. In actual testing, only fairly decent units will output correct and constant voltage at high load. |
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deimos wrote:
Phil Weldon wrote: 'deimos' wrote, in part: A GTS requires around 26A (amps) on the 12V rail (+12v1, +12v2, etc) total for the system. This should be marked clearly on a label on the side of your PSU unit. _____ Where did you get the idea that a 8800 GTS required 26 A X 12 V = 312 Watts? A 350 Watt supply is very likely to be all that is needed for his ENTIRE system. Phil Weldon "deimos" deimos@localhost wrote in message ... ted wrote: Have a ecs geforce 7050m-m v2 motherboard. Trying to install a 8800 & am unable. What are the steps to follow or you followed? TIA Where exactly are you getting stuck? Looking up your board, it appears you have an Micro ATX integrated board with a single PCI-E 16x slot. So barring any case obstructions, are you able to fit it in the slot? You have to slide over that white locking tab first you know. Be sure it's fully seated, you cannot have it touching hard dries and what not and being shoved up out of the slot. Next lock the tab back, screw in the card, and connect one PCI-E 6-pin power lead from your PSU to the connector on the card. This is CRITICAL for an 8800 GTS (320/640/512MB). Now power up, install your drivers and get going! You can safely use NVidia's latest Geforce driver instead of your manufacturers'. They are in fact, mostly the same. If you experience problems with lockups and blue screens, it's likely you have an inadequate PSU (common with smaller systems like you might have). A GTS requires around 26A (amps) on the 12V rail (+12v1, +12v2, etc) total for the system. This should be marked clearly on a label on the side of your PSU unit. Because Watts is completely useless as a factor for determining system load. NVidia's guideline for the 8800 series is 26A on the 12V rail. This is a combination of all 12v rails combined and is intended to account for the average system utilization of everything including your CPU/mobo/RAM, drives, other cards, and fans. snip And that is what is wrong with Nvidia's guideline. They should simply give a (realistic) power requirement for just their card, as it isn't that difficult to work out the power requirements for the rest of the computer. One customer may have a 65W processor, another 150W, and a system guesstimate is a poor substitute for just giving the video card power alone. I get power measurements for video cards from Xbitlabs, and at least that gives a card level value. Since their measurement is of one card, it isn't going to be a very good representation, but it beats "26 amps" in terms of giving customers information they can use. 8800gts 99W to 109W (clock rate dependent), 98.2W/12V = 8.18A (ignoring the 3.3V rail) When the computer starts, it is around ~40W, a drop in the bucket. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...8800gts_4.html Paul |
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Well after spending $800, and lots of hours. We found the problem.
Evidently, the monitor, which is a new LCD monitor failed. The reason we couldn't figure that out is evidently the digital side failed only analog side kept working. Yes we did get a new power supply rated at 500 W. Now. We need to send an angry letter to Samsung about their new LCD monitor. We did check and find out that produced pretty reliable stuff, but evidently, we got the exception. ted wrote: Have a ecs geforce 7050m-m v2 motherboard. Trying to install a 8800 & am unable. What are the steps to follow or you followed? TIA |
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"ted" wrote in message ... Well after spending $800, and lots of hours. We found the problem. Evidently, the monitor, which is a new LCD monitor failed. The reason we couldn't figure that out is evidently the digital side failed only analog side kept working. Yes we did get a new power supply rated at 500 W. Now. We need to send an angry letter to Samsung about their new LCD monitor. We did check and find out that produced pretty reliable stuff, but evidently, we got the exception. Ok, so that was your issue......but what you posted was "am unable to install". A generic description like that is meaningless for relevant help or advice. Had you posted that you were able to fit the board, hook it up, the system powered on and booted and there was no signal output, very likely more relevant advice such as "have you tried both DVI and VGA output on the monitor" or "have you tried the DVI dongle for analog input" would likely have been offered. What type of DVI cable did you use to hook up the monitor? Have you tried the DVI input with a different DVI cable? Or on a different system? Kind of like posting "I've lost the key to my car. It's a Chevy Avalanche. With a 5.3L. Can you help me find it?" |
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'deimos' wrote, in part:
Because Watts is completely useless as a factor for determining system load. NVidia's guideline for the 8800 series is 26A on the 12V rail. This is a combination of all 12v rails combined and is intended to account for the average system utilization of everything including your CPU/mobo/RAM, drives, other cards, and fans. _____ Read the standards for ATX 12v power supplies. Watts does just fine for judging a power supply (given that the manufacturer tells the truth), especially since, for DC, voltage multiplied by amperage always equals watts and the DC rails share output power so most of the total output wattage is available to the voltage rails that need it at the expense of those that do not. Not to mention that the owner of a system is much more likely to know its specific power requirements than nVidia, a company that neither produces display adapters nor looks over your shoulder as you sit at your keyboard. Finally, (+12v1, +12v2) implies TWO rails, one for, possibly, a display adapter, and the other for everything else. In which case, a +12v1 rail with a 15 ampere capacity will be more than fine for a 8800 GTS. I could go on, but I won't. What the hey, I will. A power supply is rated at the OUTPUT power, so the efficiency does no LOWER that rating. 70% efficiency? You shouldn't be buying such an inefficient supply, what with global warming and the rising cost of electricity. And it is very possible for an indecent power supply having regulation problems at LOW loads. Once you start bringing indecent power supplies around you may be embarrassed at any moment. Phil Weldon "deimos" deimos@localhost wrote in message ... Phil Weldon wrote: 'deimos' wrote, in part: A GTS requires around 26A (amps) on the 12V rail (+12v1, +12v2, etc) total for the system. This should be marked clearly on a label on the side of your PSU unit. _____ Where did you get the idea that a 8800 GTS required 26 A X 12 V = 312 Watts? A 350 Watt supply is very likely to be all that is needed for his ENTIRE system. Phil Weldon "deimos" deimos@localhost wrote in message ... ted wrote: Have a ecs geforce 7050m-m v2 motherboard. Trying to install a 8800 & am unable. What are the steps to follow or you followed? TIA Where exactly are you getting stuck? Looking up your board, it appears you have an Micro ATX integrated board with a single PCI-E 16x slot. So barring any case obstructions, are you able to fit it in the slot? You have to slide over that white locking tab first you know. Be sure it's fully seated, you cannot have it touching hard dries and what not and being shoved up out of the slot. Next lock the tab back, screw in the card, and connect one PCI-E 6-pin power lead from your PSU to the connector on the card. This is CRITICAL for an 8800 GTS (320/640/512MB). Now power up, install your drivers and get going! You can safely use NVidia's latest Geforce driver instead of your manufacturers'. They are in fact, mostly the same. If you experience problems with lockups and blue screens, it's likely you have an inadequate PSU (common with smaller systems like you might have). A GTS requires around 26A (amps) on the 12V rail (+12v1, +12v2, etc) total for the system. This should be marked clearly on a label on the side of your PSU unit. Because Watts is completely useless as a factor for determining system load. NVidia's guideline for the 8800 series is 26A on the 12V rail. This is a combination of all 12v rails combined and is intended to account for the average system utilization of everything including your CPU/mobo/RAM, drives, other cards, and fans. The watts rating on your PSU label is the sum of all voltages and rails. Since you're not using the +5v or 3.3v (if it exists) for a video card, the important part is the 12v amps. 350w is likely all you need, but if a PSU is only 70% or lower efficient, then it cannot deliver that peak voltage for long, and for the really cheap ones, when they are at 80% load or greater, they burst into flame. PSU's LIKE to be at 25-50% load most of the time. In actual testing, only fairly decent units will output correct and constant voltage at high load. |
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