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3T models were recently atrocious, past few years, whereas 2/4/6TB
weren't. Strangely eye-opening. I'd still want manufacturing drive dates, model verification numbers, still, were I interested in a 3T purchase. https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/...le-hard-drives Think I've at least one 1.5T model, up there in the outer limits. HGST, especially, Toshiba, WD, and Seagte have good representatives among low failures. As well abysmal models to be found more or less among all. Although offhand I may not be seeing all the data charts and abstracts, too lazy to pull up a more compliant browser, I did check into some of the outstanding HGST stats from a retailer perspective. You pay for those drives, maybe twice what WD or Seagates sells for potentially x6-times higher failures. Enterprise, apart from an actual accountability of the warranty, can seem as extra wrapping paper for other than a shipping box with at least a sealed OEM bag and serial no. the manufacturer can link to validate. Depends. I don't mind paying less, something thereof, half for a non-enterprise drive with a year to three less warranty accountability. White Drives, sold as, is another one on Ebay. The Weirdings. Coming in from Thailand directly, rebadged for "White", off Hitachi, Seagate, maybe WD facilities. Translation: "A" major manufacturer. One third less, or $40 for 2T drives at a minimum norm, meaning accountably warranted for a reasonable couple years, at $60. And others. Other angles. Similar angles to be shafted when a 1-yr. warranty, if that, is found a matter less than appreciably honorable. Among potentials for other concerns. Popular site and has an accompanying index, although it may not be aggressive enough for bloody guts and cutting-edge update purposes. https://www.backblaze.com/b2/hard-drive-test-data.html |
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Flasherly wrote:
3T models were recently atrocious, past few years, whereas 2/4/6TB weren't. Strangely eye-opening. I'd still want manufacturing drive dates, model verification numbers, still, were I interested in a 3T purchase. https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/...le-hard-drives Think I've at least one 1.5T model, up there in the outer limits. HGST, especially, Toshiba, WD, and Seagte have good representatives among low failures. As well abysmal models to be found more or less among all. Although offhand I may not be seeing all the data charts and abstracts, too lazy to pull up a more compliant browser, I did check into some of the outstanding HGST stats from a retailer perspective. You pay for those drives, maybe twice what WD or Seagates sells for potentially x6-times higher failures. Enterprise, apart from an actual accountability of the warranty, can seem as extra wrapping paper for other than a shipping box with at least a sealed OEM bag and serial no. the manufacturer can link to validate. Depends. I don't mind paying less, something thereof, half for a non-enterprise drive with a year to three less warranty accountability. White Drives, sold as, is another one on Ebay. The Weirdings. Coming in from Thailand directly, rebadged for "White", off Hitachi, Seagate, maybe WD facilities. Translation: "A" major manufacturer. One third less, or $40 for 2T drives at a minimum norm, meaning accountably warranted for a reasonable couple years, at $60. And others. Other angles. Similar angles to be shafted when a 1-yr. warranty, if that, is found a matter less than appreciably honorable. Among potentials for other concerns. Popular site and has an accompanying index, although it may not be aggressive enough for bloody guts and cutting-edge update purposes. https://www.backblaze.com/b2/hard-drive-test-data.html Given my recent experience, I think I'll go back to hard drives from WD in 1TB or 2TB size when I buy another one. I'm using my pc mainly for web suring and email, so large storage is not critical. The one thing that I might do to require larger storage would be playing around with VM. It might be fun learning linux or programming without worrying about messing up my RL pc :-) I could see making several VMs, and I don't have any experience yet to guess how much disk space they would need. Right now I have about 4TB hd between 2 drives (1TB and 3TB). I'll probably buy another hd soon - external however for use as back up. Wikipedia entries indicate that the longevity of the storage media - CD, DVD, flash drive, SSD, hard drive, and so on - varies widely depending on usage and physical storage. None of it matches paper (thousands of years) but that's too cumbersome to use for back up :-) I've got a number of music CDs approaching decades in age that I want to keep backed up. They're backed up on hd, but only in two locations. And I'm only just beginning to think about how to back up the RPG games I bought in the late 90s and early 2000s that came packaged in CD and DVD media. Those games required running them at the start of a game session in a CD/DVD drive. Maybe the publishers will release codes to bypass the CD/DVD requirement to play the game :-) Hah, fat chance, LOL) John |
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On Thu, 28 Jun 2018 23:19:32 -0000 (UTC), "Yes"
wrote: Given my recent experience, I think I'll go back to hard drives from WD in 1TB or 2TB size when I buy another one. I'm using my pc mainly for web suring and email, so large storage is not critical. The one thing that I might do to require larger storage would be playing around with VM. It might be fun learning linux or programming without worrying about messing up my RL pc :-) I could see making several VMs, and I don't have any experience yet to guess how much disk space they would need. Right now I have about 4TB hd between 2 drives (1TB and 3TB). I'll probably buy another hd soon - external however for use as back up. Wikipedia entries indicate that the longevity of the storage media - CD, DVD, flash drive, SSD, hard drive, and so on - varies widely depending on usage and physical storage. None of it matches paper (thousands of years) but that's too cumbersome to use for back up :-) I've got a number of music CDs approaching decades in age that I want to keep backed up. They're backed up on hd, but only in two locations. And I'm only just beginning to think about how to back up the RPG games I bought in the late 90s and early 2000s that came packaged in CD and DVD media. Those games required running them at the start of a game session in a CD/DVD drive. Maybe the publishers will release codes to bypass the CD/DVD requirement to play the game :-) Hah, fat chance, LOL) John You know, when I looked at some of those site charts, it seems there's for anyone always a better performing drive with fewer failures. Taking that for a point of faith in objectivity, no doubt it is to be an expected furball of contention, should a drive fail, and one pronounce: I should have known better to go with my gut instincts. The 3T drives I would expect now to exhibit similar performance, along with 2/4/6T drives, than a prior spike in 3T drive failures graphed from one of the two aforementioned site ratings. They are also particularly posed, as the 3T is the one that will most easily price-match a good many, otherwise, sensible and value-oriented 2T class offerings among HDDs. The developers platform, VMs and concurrent operating systems, is also notorious for a large population of physical RAM not expected on usual destop, including gamer builds. We crossed the Event Horizon of paperless mechanization several years ago from the point of a computer aide in business environments. I've tapes and cassette decks I need throw away. It took me one year of mornings, I'd place aside an hour for a cassette-side, to feed the analogue output into my computer for WAV transposition and subsequent MP3 encodes. That amount is 73.32GB in 18 directories, each no larger than storage amount for subsequent placement on a DVD;- HDD storage was a consideration at the time, and the encodes reflect that at a lower allowance setting for encode quality. DVDs will play from binary images on a HDD from software that renders images into their library. I can access, here and now, play from an image the first digit edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica from its arcane Netscape Navigator interface easily enough & FWIW/YMMV... [Using Britannica CD] Quoting brief excerpts from Britannica CD is permitted as provided under U.S. copyright law. Whenever using material from Britannica CD, you should properly credit it as the source of your information, as you credit printed material in a bibliography. E.g... "China: Rise of empress Wu-hou." Britannica CD, Version 99 © 1994-1999. Encyclopædia Britannica, Inc. Copyright © 1994-1997 Netscape Communications Corporation, All rights reserved. ================================================= H+H Software GmbH Virtual CD v4 V4.0.1 - 10/2001 ================================================= |
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On Thu, 28 Jun 2018 21:43:04 -0400, Flasherly
wrote: The 3T drives I would expect now to exhibit similar performance, along with 2/4/6T drives, than a prior spike in 3T drive failures graphed from one of the two aforementioned site ratings. They are also particularly posed, as the 3T is the one that will most easily price-match a good many, otherwise, sensible and value-oriented 2T class offerings among HDDs. I happen to have 3 3TB Segate drives in service now, two active in the computer, one outside used as backup via an Icydock slot. So far no problem with any of them... been in service from 1.5 to .5 years. However, when one goes, I'm hoping they don't all fail at the same time, because they really back up portions of each other. Anyway, a 4th Seagate 4 TB backs up everything every other week. Yes, I am paranoid. |
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On Thu, 28 Jun 2018 21:51:58 -0500, Charlie Hoffpauir
wrote: I happen to have 3 3TB Segate drives in service now, two active in the computer, one outside used as backup via an Icydock slot. So far no problem with any of them... been in service from 1.5 to .5 years. However, when one goes, I'm hoping they don't all fail at the same time, because they really back up portions of each other. Anyway, a 4th Seagate 4 TB backs up everything every other week. Yes, I am paranoid. Same thing here, as I bet on duplicate only backups, that two drives containing the same material cannot fail with probability simultaneously from disparate usage conditions, so your 4T is an additional secure measure. I think of it as cheap, but that depends on the individual value given what's written;- Besides nearest to the same price for optical media, only no unreasonable laser-writing bottleneck speeds, which keeps platters as the only game in town. I mean how many times can industry hold up a solid-state drive for promotion for speeding up, like something new, that old laptop? |
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"Charlie Hoffpauir" wrote in message ... On Thu, 28 Jun 2018 21:43:04 -0400, Flasherly wrote: The 3T drives I would expect now to exhibit similar performance, along with 2/4/6T drives, than a prior spike in 3T drive failures graphed from one of the two aforementioned site ratings. They are also particularly posed, as the 3T is the one that will most easily price-match a good many, otherwise, sensible and value-oriented 2T class offerings among HDDs. I happen to have 3 3TB Segate drives in service now, two active in the computer, one outside used as backup via an Icydock slot. So far no problem with any of them... been in service from 1.5 to .5 years. However, when one goes, I'm hoping they don't all fail at the same time, because they really back up portions of each other. Anyway, a 4th Seagate 4 TB backs up everything every other week. Yes, I am paranoid. Nothing wrong in preparing for the inevitable- HDDs all fail, sooner or later. That's not paranoia; that's practicality and caution :-) -- SC Tom |
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