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Economics of SATA hard drive
Am in the UK. Running an old system which works quite well: Via 266
mobo with Duron 1800 processor and 768MB of SD-RAM. Will upgrade the system when I need the extra power. Currently need to add to my data storage. Don't want to get Parallel IDE (PATA) because newer mobos will support only SATA. Can get a 250GB Samsung hard drive (from Komplett) for about £60 inc delivery which is a real bargain. But a PCI SATA adaptor by Sunsway from the same dealer costs £19. It supports 2 SATA devices. That is definitely not a bargain as it's one- third of the price of the 250 GB drive! What a swizz! What viable alternatives do I have? |
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"Warra" wrote in message ... Am in the UK. Running an old system which works quite well: Via 266 mobo with Duron 1800 processor and 768MB of SD-RAM. Will upgrade the system when I need the extra power. Currently need to add to my data storage. Don't want to get Parallel IDE (PATA) because newer mobos will support only SATA. Can get a 250GB Samsung hard drive (from Komplett) for about £60 inc delivery which is a real bargain. But a PCI SATA adaptor by Sunsway from the same dealer costs £19. It supports 2 SATA devices. That is definitely not a bargain as it's one- third of the price of the 250 GB drive! What a swizz! What viable alternatives do I have? I wouldn't worry to much, many of the 'modern' sata boards also support EIDE ) so you are unlikely to lose out when you need to upgrade Derek |
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Warra wrote:
Will upgrade the system when I need the extra power. Currently need to add to my data storage. Don't want to get Parallel IDE (PATA) because newer mobos will support only SATA. DVD drives are almost exclusively PATA, so its' unlikely many newer mobos would drop PATA altogether for a while. -- Mike |
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Mike Redrobe wrote
Warra wrote Will upgrade the system when I need the extra power. Currently need to add to my data storage. Don't want to get Parallel IDE (PATA) because newer mobos will support only SATA. DVD drives are almost exclusively PATA, so its' unlikely many newer mobos would drop PATA altogether for a while. Yes, but you may well see motherboards with not enough IDE ports for the hard drives you want to use. And there's the better cabling with SATA too. |
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On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 23:48:36 +0100, Warra
wrote: Am in the UK. Running an old system which works quite well: Via 266 mobo with Duron 1800 processor and 768MB of SD-RAM. Will upgrade the system when I need the extra power. Currently need to add to my data storage. Don't want to get Parallel IDE (PATA) because newer mobos will support only SATA. Newer boards will support at least one PATA channel because OEMs (and others too) are still using and preferring PATA optical drives. Plus, the same argument you are making about the need for a PCI SATA adapter could go the other way- that you buy a PCI PATA adapter for the next system "IF" it ends up needing one. If you don't plan on having more than one optical drive in your next system and plan on purchasing it within at least the next couple years, it is most likely it will have PATA. Can get a 250GB Samsung hard drive (from Komplett) for about £60 inc delivery which is a real bargain. But a PCI SATA adaptor by Sunsway from the same dealer costs £19. It supports 2 SATA devices. That is definitely not a bargain as it's one- third of the price of the 250 GB drive! What a swizz! I don't know what all hardware costs over there, but trying to equate it based on % of a budget grade drive is a bit misguided. The card has, as any product does, a certain bit over overhead in design, manufacture, delivery, marketing, warranty coverage, etc, etc. What viable alternatives do I have? The best alternative is to buy a PATA drive. It will be faster than an SATA, because not only will you be avoiding use of a PCI SATA card (slower because it's on the PCI bus instead of southbridge integrated as your PATA controller onboard, is), but ALSO because your motherboard's Via chipset is known to have a somewhat low realized PCI throughput. In other words, your board is among the worst to use a PCI SATA controller on. Get the PATA drive and let tomorrow take care of itself. |
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Warra wrote: Am in the UK. Running an old system which works quite well: Via 266 mobo with Duron 1800 processor and 768MB of SD-RAM. Will upgrade the system when I need the extra power. Currently need to add to my data storage. Don't want to get Parallel IDE (PATA) because newer mobos will support only SATA. Can get a 250GB Samsung hard drive (from Komplett) for about £60 inc delivery which is a real bargain. But a PCI SATA adaptor by Sunsway from the same dealer costs £19. It supports 2 SATA devices. That is definitely not a bargain as it's one- third of the price of the 250 GB drive! What a swizz! What viable alternatives do I have? Consider getting a PATA drive of whatever size fits your needs. When its time to move to another motherboard, look for one that will support the hard drive. If it only has one PATA interface, it may be possible to use it for both the hard drive and a DVD drive. Since DVDs typically runs at 66mhz, the hard drive would probably run at that reduced bandwidth. BUT the good news is that hard drives rarely transfer data any faster than that except for burst from cache. |
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In kony typed:
Newer boards will support at least one PATA channel because OEMs (and others too) are still using and preferring PATA optical drives. Hi Kony, I aggree. My last PC bought in Sep 2005 has a SATA HD as bootable device and also IDE connectors for older HDs. So there's no need for extra adapters! Plus, the same argument you are making about the need for a PCI SATA adapter could go the other way- that you buy a PCI PATA adapter for the next system "IF" it ends up needing one. If you don't plan on having more than one optical drive in your next system and plan on purchasing it within at least the next couple years, it is most likely it will have PATA. Yes/No, last motherboards have SATA "and" PATA connectors. Can get a 250GB Samsung hard drive (from Komplett) for about £60 inc delivery which is a real bargain. But a PCI SATA adaptor by Sunsway from the same dealer costs £19. It supports 2 SATA devices. That is definitely not a bargain as it's one- third of the price of the 250 GB drive! What a swizz! No need for SATA if PATA can be connected. Forget it. The best alternative is to buy a PATA drive. It will be faster than an SATA, because not only will you be avoiding use of a PCI SATA card (slower because it's on the PCI bus instead of southbridge integrated as your PATA controller onboard, is), but ALSO because your motherboard's Via chipset is known to have a somewhat low realized PCI throughput. In other words, your board is among the worst to use a PCI SATA controller on. Don't understand. An onboard IDE will make no difference to an extra PCI SATA card on performance. And newer boards will already have a SATA interface. I don't see any difference on adapter speeds. Horst |
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Merrill P. L. Worthington wrote:
Warra wrote: Am in the UK. Running an old system which works quite well: Via 266 mobo with Duron 1800 processor and 768MB of SD-RAM. Will upgrade the system when I need the extra power. Currently need to add to my data storage. Don't want to get Parallel IDE (PATA) because newer mobos will support only SATA. Can get a 250GB Samsung hard drive (from Komplett) for about £60 inc delivery which is a real bargain. But a PCI SATA adaptor by Sunsway from the same dealer costs £19. It supports 2 SATA devices. That is definitely not a bargain as it's one- third of the price of the 250 GB drive! What a swizz! What viable alternatives do I have? Consider getting a PATA drive of whatever size fits your needs. When its time to move to another motherboard, look for one that will support the hard drive. If it only has one PATA interface, it may be possible to use it for both the hard drive and a DVD drive. Since DVDs typically runs at 66mhz, the hard drive would probably run at that reduced bandwidth. BUT the good news is that hard drives rarely transfer data any faster than that except for burst from cache. What a crock of misinformation! -- Shaun. |
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~misfit~ wrote: Merrill P. L. Worthington wrote: Warra wrote: Am in the UK. Running an old system which works quite well: Via 266 mobo with Duron 1800 processor and 768MB of SD-RAM. Will upgrade the system when I need the extra power. Currently need to add to my data storage. Don't want to get Parallel IDE (PATA) because newer mobos will support only SATA. Can get a 250GB Samsung hard drive (from Komplett) for about £60 inc delivery which is a real bargain. But a PCI SATA adaptor by Sunsway from the same dealer costs £19. It supports 2 SATA devices. That is definitely not a bargain as it's one- third of the price of the 250 GB drive! What a swizz! What viable alternatives do I have? Consider getting a PATA drive of whatever size fits your needs. When its time to move to another motherboard, look for one that will support the hard drive. If it only has one PATA interface, it may be possible to use it for both the hard drive and a DVD drive. Since DVDs typically runs at 66mhz, the hard drive would probably run at that reduced bandwidth. BUT the good news is that hard drives rarely transfer data any faster than that except for burst from cache. What a crock of misinformation! Ya think? Prove it. |
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